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When the kids asked mom / where are we going Nobody even knew what to say to them Ken didn't want to lie He said the US is looking for spies So we have to live in a place called Manzanar Where a lot of Japanese people are
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(I couldn't find any songs about Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus)
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Venom Snake posted:We already almost do! back in the early aughts, I thought all that "post-9/11 world" poo poo was just a bunch of horsecrap that shitheads were using to nudge the country a notch or two closer to fascism and it would all go away and turn back to normal eventually when the hysteria wore off and common sense reasserted itself that never happened. the post-9/11 world is real, as much as I hate to admit it, and in 2020 people who were born into this shithole of a political environment will be old enough to vote
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docbeard posted:(I couldn't find any songs about Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus) I would have been really impressed if you did
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docbeard posted:(I couldn't find any songs about Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus) when the confederates call him a tyrant the suspension is what they're complaining about
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the best book i ever read about the structure of america after 9/11 was democracy inc by wolin
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Raskolnikov38 posted:when the confederates call him a tyrant the suspension is what they're complaining about that and the whole taking away their slaves thing
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Shear Modulus posted:that and the whole taking away their slaves thing it was mostly the second part. as a matter of fact, it was almost entirely the second part.
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slaves were the cause of the war but the confederacy recognized openly fighting a war to retain slavery would prevent European recognition which was the only hope they had. hence calling Lincoln a tyrant and usurper of the constitution to portray themselves as "freedom fighters"
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obama was mediocre at best and was still one of america's best presidents is what i was getting at earlier fwiw basically we've always been bad
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and instead of living up to the image on which he originally sold voters, obama decided that it was more lucrative to keep it rolling. that kinda makes him worse than any of them because he knew what they were, and he went along with them.
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Obama was hot garbage, and it's compounded by the fact that he's half-black and should've been at least a little better at not being an imperialist. Vietnam was horrible, LBJ ended up paying for it with his life, but LBJ did loving work, and it should never be discounted. Medicare, medicaid, civil rights, raising minimum wage, environmental protections, the NEA and NEH, major funding to schools. The dude did stuff FDR could only dream of and he did it in a term and half.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:and instead of living up to the image on which he originally sold voters, obama decided that it was more lucrative to keep it rolling. enabler~
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docbeard posted:(I couldn't find any songs about Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus) TBH Lincoln's worst crime was not picking a radical republican as his 1864 running mate.
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Agnosticnixie posted:TBH Lincoln's worst crime was not picking a radical republican as his 1864 running mate. I still think it's hilarious that Johnson got impeached and one vote shy of removal over ignoring the blatantly unconstitutional Tenure of Office Act.
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Main Paineframe posted:with Vietnam we eventually had the decency to get out, stay out, and let our client regime collapse. once we gave up trying to prop up an unstable status quo, everything eventually crumbled into a largely stable situation I mean it's influence on world events outside of the region, as well
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Frijolero posted:Obama was hot garbage, and it's compounded by the fact that he's half-black and should've been at least a little better in 2012: him- young, black, no college ed, doesn't follow news closely: Obama is a dumbmotherfucker who hasn't done poo poo for blacks, makes us look bad and is ruining the chances of future black people to ever be president again. gently caress him. me- older, white, college educated, follows news too much: no, you see, Obama's had to deal with a lot of poo poo from Republicans to do all the good things he wants to do so he's had to play ball to win the next term. If he's reelected, he can go hog wild against them as much as possible. later in 2012: me- sober, drunk: gently caress it *bubbles in Jill Stein*
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:I mean it's influence on world events outside of the region, as well the oil must flow
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Raskolnikov38 posted:when the confederates call him a tyrant the suspension is what they're complaining about Looks like they were right again 
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Agnosticnixie posted:TBH Lincoln's worst crime was not picking a radical republican as his 1864 running mate. something about learning from history and repeating it because reruns edit: ♬ ~ＢＩＰＡＲＴＩＳＡＮＳＨＩＰ~ ♬
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Jul 30, 2017 04:28
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just read the thread of Chelsea trying to argue with a scholar of Arendt about Eichmann in Jerusalem and lol
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Bernie would have won.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:I mean it's influence on world events outside of the region, as well we've been messing around in that region for a very long time, and it's been a mess long before 2001. for example, Afghanistan has been in essentially-constant civil war since the 70s. Vietnam, on the other hand, was pretty much just the US stepping in to prop up and replace the failing French colonial project there because COMMUNISM
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cliff notes for arendt's "banality of evil," dressed up in 8-bit videyo game metaphors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLUHlVLyRxA
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:cliff notes for arendt's "banality of evil," dressed up in 8-bit videyo game metaphors: Sidwell Friends please use this.
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Joementum posted:just read the thread of Chelsea trying to argue with a scholar of Arendt about Eichmann in Jerusalem and lol link
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:and instead of living up to the image on which he originally sold voters, obama decided that it was more lucrative to keep it rolling. As Maine Paineframe said farther upthread, when regressive conservatives tried to hold-up FDR's New Deal, he only pushed back harder and went for even more radical reforms. That he was stopped just short of packing the Supreme Court is indicative of him willing to throw decorum and bipartisanship to the wind in pursuit of his goals. When regressive conservatives tried to make Obama a "one-term President", he just kinda rolled-over and said "eh, what're ya gonna do?" And then we cheered him on as he "trolled" the GOP in 2015 and 2016 to little or no effect besides making a bunch of snappy headlines and one-liners.
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Chelsea has the same problem as Eichenwald, they never learned the first rule of holes. To be fair though, Eichenwald's issues are much worse.
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https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/891458611058233344 ahaha
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gently caress it, i'mma post more 8-bit philosophy. it barely scratches the surface and should not be used for more than to whet one's intellectual appetite or to give one that jeopardy-style knowledge (broad, but not deep), but it's a start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvJTUZaivCI webber and the protestant work ethic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttu8va9_x1g hobbes vs. rousseau https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6V_YKn8i9k hagel, and history as a rational process
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:gently caress it, i'mma post more 8-bit philosophy. it barely scratches the surface and should not be used for more than to whet one's intellectual appetite or to give one that jeopardy-style knowledge (broad, but not deep), but it's a start: I watched What is a Woman? and realized I am part of the patriarchy. Oh god 
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Rand alPaul posted:I watched What is a Woman? and realized I am part of the patriarchy. Oh god we all are, comrade. we all are. 
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Robin's account of his encounter with Neera Tanden is also bizarre reading http://coreyrobin.com/2016/06/25/neera-and-me-two-theses-about-the-american-ruling-class-and-one-about-neera-tanden/ 
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im not a patriarch im not even married
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Rand alPaul posted:I watched What is a Woman? and realized I am part of the patriarchy. Oh god as french women go I find la maupin's example more useful and instructive than simone de beauvoir's
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Rand alPaul posted:Iraq/Afghanistan is substantially worse than Vietnam/Cambodia, because the lesson the US learned from Vietnam was not that it was a huge mistake and a terrible thing to do, but instead that if it embedded the media, went after whistleblowers, and kept the death counts artificially low it could wage war indefinitely and people would simply accept it. a soldier died in afghanistan recently who was 2 on 9/11. just insane
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Rand alPaul posted:I watched What is a Woman? and realized I am part of the patriarchy. Oh god sorry about ur penis
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