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Schwartzcough posted:Yes, they're the same person minus 20 minutes. My point was that they'd already done this in-game and it wasn't a big deal. Presumably for androids built to go into battle, this happens on a weekly basis. It feels odd for it to suddenly be SO important that sobbing and totally uncharacteristic-for-2B tenderness is suddenly warranted for something that was otherwise established as routine and no big deal. Uh, if I woke up one day and someone showed me my corpse and said "O ya, you died 20 minutes ago but we made a new you so it's all good!" I would get pretty "philosophical" about it. I think pretty much anyone would. It's not losing 20 minutes of memory that's the problem, it's the copying and the question of whether this new you is actually you. I imagine my loved ones would have a similar reaction.
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Sage Grimm posted:So that choking scene, yeah? And you know how popular cosplaying as 2B and 9S is? There's been a couple of cons where there are GROUPS of people re-enacting this. Such as this one.
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MagicBoots posted:Uh, if I woke up one day and someone showed me my corpse and said "O ya, you died 30 minutes ago but we made a new you so it's all good!" I would get pretty "philosophical" about it. I think pretty much anyone would. It's not losing 20 minutes of memory that's the problem, it's the copying and the question of whether this new you is actually you. I imagine my loved ones would have a similar reaction. "So we came here, and we buried ourselves and we took their place. And every morning, Nines, I eat breakfast 20 yards away from my own rusting corpse."
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Monocled Falcon posted:So um... What's with all the shots of 2b's panties? I... didn't remember seeing that in the early updates.
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Schwartzcough posted:Yes, they're the same person minus 20 minutes. My point was that they'd already done this in-game and it wasn't a big deal. Presumably for androids built to go into battle, this happens on a weekly basis. It feels odd for it to suddenly be SO important that sobbing and totally uncharacteristic-for-2B tenderness is suddenly warranted for something that was otherwise established as routine and no big deal. It's not about memory loss Bob.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:We went over this last time it happened, too- to 9S it's not a big deal because he doesn't remember that time. And 20 minutes times enough times will add up. 2B seems to imply this happens quite often. Looking at the actual time period the game took place in, and we witnessed it twice already? Now how many years has this been going on?
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Sindai posted:Her skirt is damaged in the final cutscene. Lol, I never noticed until just pointed out. Is it always like this? .jpg)
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The Dark Id posted:
Is... is no one going to note this? This line strikes me as pretty goddamn important. There's obviously something involved here we're not in the know about yet.
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It always... ends like this... *sobs*
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However well you end up in that final fight with Eve, cutscene 2B will have their skirt damaged.
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Tempest_56 posted:Is... is no one going to note this? This line strikes me as pretty goddamn important. There's obviously something involved here we're not in the know about yet. It just means she played Nier and Drakengard
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Item Getter posted:It just means she played Nier and Drakengard Or rmember what happened in the prologue
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Yeah, but that's more about the teleporter problem, and presumably their consciousness and not their whole selves are getting transported every time they use fast travel or go between the Bunker and Earth.
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MagicBoots posted:Uh, if I woke up one day and someone showed me my corpse and said "O ya, you died 20 minutes ago but we made a new you so it's all good!" I would get pretty "philosophical" about it. I think pretty much anyone would. It's not losing 20 minutes of memory that's the problem, it's the copying and the question of whether this new you is actually you. I imagine my loved ones would have a similar reaction. .jpg) 2B wasn't exactly feeling fine about the whole thing last time 9S had a memory reset. The "tenderness" isn't even uncharacteristic either. 2B didn't react much to the other androids being shot down in the prologue, but lost her usual stoic composure immediately once 9S was injured.
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Tempest_56 posted:Is... is no one going to note this? This line strikes me as pretty goddamn important. There's obviously something involved here we're not in the know about yet. It's classic misdirection. Just like when Zero approached the Cathedral at the end of route A: she was obviously not planning on coming out, but everyone missed that because she just turned the male cast into pigeons with a wave of her hand.
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2B is very protective of her little brother, 9S
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The Vosgian Beast posted:2B is very protective of her little brother, 9S Her lovely, creepy, racist little brother 9S.
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androids are normally immortal, of course they're going to be really afraid of death if they never usually have to handle its inevitability even if it's as small a deal as 20 minutes of memories 2b seems to be hinting that she's had other partners die on her and has trouble handling that, and didn't want to get attached to 9s feeling he'd die again on her.
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Ratoslov posted:Her lovely, creepy, racist little brother 9S. And now 9s is the robots
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Hemingway To Go! posted:androids are normally immortal, of course they're going to be really afraid of death if they never usually have to handle its inevitability even if it's as small a deal as 20 minutes of memories One of those partners was the 9S from the prologue, so that doesn't help.
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The ending might not be a big deal to some of the players but it's very obviously a big deal to 2B. Combined with her complete freakout in the prologue after 9S gets injured, it's meant to make the player think "okay, there's definitely something bigger going on here." A lot of people just wrote off the prologue as poor characterization, but Taro's hand is steady enough so that it's generally worth trusting that he has something deeper intended.
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Frionnel posted:I just interpreted it as there's lots of essential pathways going through the neck, and 2B just smashed them all. But really, the point is to highlight similarity between androids and humans.
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Monocled Falcon posted:So um... What's with all the shots of 2b's panties? I... didn't remember seeing that in the early updates. Her skirt is torn from the final phase of the Eve fight onward. The gently caress do you want out of me?
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The Dark Id posted:Her skirt is torn from the final phase of the Eve fight onward. The gently caress do you want out of me? 
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Look things could be worse. Id could be using the DLC outfits. 
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Of course by that logic 2B wouldn't use the soda machines
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Sage Grimm posted:So that choking scene, yeah? And you know how popular cosplaying as 2B and 9S is? There's been a couple of cons where there are GROUPS of people re-enacting this. Such as this one.
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To reiterate what's been said, this is not the first time this has happened to 9S. Speculation: 2B has been falling in and out of love/friendship/etc. with 9S for a while now. But each time their relationship intensifies, 9S bites it like a loser and his mind reverts to the pre-mission state stored in the Bunker, anterograde amnesia style. It's why she's been stoic and standoffish but protective when around him; Toobie keeps trying not to get attached, failing, and getting smacked in the face with every reset and he's incompetent enough that this happens a lot. She also might not be able to escape the cycle because Command's assigned them together and she doesn't have the authority to countermand it, but I've never played the game so. 2B is fully cognizant that 9S isn't actually dying, but the version she keeps getting attached to is. So, she's trapped, and deeply grateful when 9S fails at his job so hard he loops around and keeps himself alive.
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I'm so stoked that I'm able to post in this thread while the lp's ongoing! The Dark ID, I just wanted to thank you for all the erm, fun times you've put yourself through in order to 100% Yoko Taro's Wild Rides. I fell in love with NieR because of your lp, and have been yelling about it to my friends for years. In fun Yoko Taro news actually, when he came to Pax East, he tweeted that he wanted a beer. My friend delivered! 
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The Dark Id posted:Her skirt is torn from the final phase of the Eve fight onward. The gently caress do you want out of me? Edit in censor bars, obviously.
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Your partner loses the memories of the most critical, intense moments you spent together. And you don't. Over and over again. If I could, I'd selectively wipe my memories to bring myself in line with them rather than live through that hell.
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Sage Grimm posted:So that choking scene, yeah? And you know how popular cosplaying as 2B and 9S is? There's been a couple of cons where there are GROUPS of people re-enacting this. Such as this one. lol at the 9S' who couldn't work up the nerve to ask a 2B to choke them
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Kavak posted:If I could, I'd selectively wipe my memories to bring myself in line with them rather than live through that hell. Guarantee you 100% you wouldn't be allowed to after an incident like this one, with nobody else on the ground and I'll just wager all comms/observation cut off. Or imagine the hell if they made the memories of this fight mandatory study on the Bunker for what a wild case it is.
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I was speaking more in general than this specific case. Poor 2B ...
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Malachite_Dragon posted:But I'm deaf and can't really listen to it Ok, disabilities pass.
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Requesting someone reposts the nier automata end of evangelion photoshop.
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I'm gonna bring up two points. Point A: Yoko Taro promised that this game would have a happy ending. Singular. I think everyone would describe this as a happy ending. Point 2: Weight of the World is a good song, but I have problems with some of the lyrics. I can't be the only who thinks that 'This is my redemption song' is a tad on the nose. Also, shame for rhyming 'I need you now' with 'can you hear me now'. Bad songwriter. Lazy.
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The Watercrown posted:I'm gonna bring up two points. Ending W was the real happy ending. The Watercrown posted:Point 2: Weight of the World is a good song, but I have problems with some of the lyrics. I can't be the only who thinks that 'This is my redemption song' is a tad on the nose. Also, shame for rhyming 'I need you now' with 'can you hear me now'. Bad songwriter. Lazy. Was this song originally in Japanese? Might be translation issues.
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 Analysis: How Disgusting.
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