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https://medium.com/@tonx/tonxs-fuss-proof-cold-brew-coffee-guide-81f3d05dab24 This is all you need to do for amazing coffee.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:No love for just boiling some grounds with some water in a saucepan and then drinking it through your teeth like a humpback whale sucking down plankton? this is how a french press works, almost, and thats how i make coffee you use a metal thing to seperate the grounds tho also, everyone reccing cold brew is weird, i hate cold coffee i didn't realize its apparently some kind of delicacy or something
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Jul 30, 2017 04:08
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mandatory lesbian posted:this is how a french press works, almost, and thats how i make coffee You can make it ahead of time, it lasts for days, it works even with stale beans, there's less acid so it's super smooth and delicious. Other methods can make as good or better coffee but you need more expensive beans, more expensive gear, and a lot more effort to brew it.
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Jul 30, 2017 04:15
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Cold brew owns and is definitely different from just iced coffee. Coffee undergoes chemical changes both as it heats and as it cools that makes it kinda unpleasant chilled. Since cold brew never goes through the heat > cooling phase it comes out way smoother, nixes the bitterness of iced coffee, and neutralizes a lot of the acidity normally found in a blonde roast due to how it's made. poo poo owns but sometimes you just want a hot cup of coffee. Then you buy a keg, a nitro setup, and a stout tap and make your own nitro cold brew at home 
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Jul 30, 2017 05:17
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The fact that the only place I can get cans of Suntory Cafe Au Lait coffee is Amazon is a not insignificant factor for why I shop on Amazon so much.
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Jul 30, 2017 05:32
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I've always wanted to make my own latte's but I could never find anything equivalent to the steam wand on a $24k Starbucks super gently caress off industrial sized machine. Do such things now exist independent of an espresso machine attachment?
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Jul 31, 2017 10:55
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Avalanche posted:I've always wanted to make my own latte's but I could never find anything equivalent to the steam wand on a $24k Starbucks super gently caress off industrial sized machine. Do such things now exist independent of an espresso machine attachment? Not really. To heat and dispense the steam, you'd already need around 80% of the parts of a cheap espresso machine, so no one bothers making a standalone steam wand, as far as I know. There are "milk frothers" that sort of do a similar thing once you've already heated up the milk some other way, but it's not quite the same thing.
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Jul 31, 2017 13:41
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To continue the coffee-chat derail, if you don't want to spring for a cheap espresso machine with a steam spout, you can make bootleg steamed milk and/or foam in the microwave. Put the milk in a jar, nuke it for 30-60 seconds or so, then shake. Not quite the same but it will do if you're avoiding buying a proper machine.
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Jul 31, 2017 14:03
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smh if you're a) putting milk in your coffee and b) not trying to jury rig a wallpaper stripper to do your milk if you insist on a).
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Jul 31, 2017 15:06
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Avalanche posted:I've always wanted to make my own latte's but I could never find anything equivalent to the steam wand on a $24k Starbucks super gently caress off industrial sized machine. Do such things now exist independent of an espresso machine attachment? This does the job quite well: https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Coffee-ECMP1000-Espresso-Cappuccino/dp/B007K9OIMU I've had it for 4+ years now and it has made thousands of cups. Definitely better than starbucks and the milk frother is quite good. Have to do a full thorough clean of it a few times a year but it's still working like a champ. edit: you'll also need a good coffee grinder to go with it because putting pre-ground stuff into this machine is like blasphemy. axeil fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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Jul 31, 2017 15:45
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mandatory lesbian posted:this is how a french press works, almost, and thats how i make coffee I make a 3 day cold brew that tastes like mama's milk and 16oz of it will make your goddamned eyeballs vibrate. I respect, in a philosophical sense, being wary of geeky trendy poo poo but there's a reason cold brew coffee gets such evangelism: Because the folk who do that have been drinking cold brew so the advocacy comes out all fast and furious like 
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Jul 31, 2017 16:06
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Willie Tomg posted:I make a 3 day cold brew that tastes like mama's milk and 16oz of it will make your goddamned eyeballs vibrate. I respect, in a philosophical sense, being wary of geeky trendy poo poo but there's a reason cold brew coffee gets such evangelism: Because the folk who do that have been drinking cold brew so the advocacy comes out all fast and furious like Do you have a recipe? Because all the ones I've seen are 14 hrs on countertop/24hrs in fridge
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Jul 31, 2017 16:27
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Do you have a recipe? Because all the ones I've seen are 14 hrs on countertop/24hrs in fridge Its not an exact science but the general gist is... in a 2 gallon container: 1-2 bags of coffee. Traditionally I use garbage-tier coffee for this but if you got really good coffee then obvs its gonna reflect in your final product and you can tone down the other seasonings. 1 freshly grated nutmeg 1 pinch of cinnamon or like a third to a half of a stick grated. 1-2tbsp of vanilla bean paste 1-2 tsp of salt depending on your palate and emotional state. Seriously. Just enough salt that you say to yourself "okay, thats a loving weird amount of salt to add to coffee" and then you stop. Add water (filtered if you got it, tap if ya dont) while stirring continuously. Forget about it on your countertop or in a cupboard for 2-3 days depending if flavor or caffeine is more important to you, respectively. Strain it out once through a chinois to catch the coarse grounds, and a second time through a filter on the chinois to get the sludge. You'll notice after a minute the final product will develop a visual gradient toward a transparent oily meniscus on the top. this is almost pure caffeine and means you did good. Stir that up before pouring. Take a generous portion of milk or cream with it (soy milk is good too), even if you usually do not.
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Jul 31, 2017 16:55
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mandatory lesbian posted:also, everyone reccing cold brew is weird, i hate cold coffee i didn't realize its apparently some kind of delicacy or something You don't have to drink cold brew cold. You're making concentrated coffee and you can dilute it with boiling water to make it hot (or just heat it up) before drinking.
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Jul 31, 2017 17:16
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Paradoxish posted:You don't have to drink cold brew cold. You're making concentrated coffee and you can dilute it with boiling water to make it hot (or just heat it up) before drinking. oh okay. deceptive name if you're like me and know nothing about cooking/baking/brewing/whatever food word this counts as
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Jul 31, 2017 17:22
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I very, very rarely drink coffee. The other day I had a couple of cold brew coffees throughout the afternoon and ended up not sleeping for about 36 hours. Not even a night out at the bar and an afternoon of surfing did much to tire me out. That's my story about cold brew.
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Jul 31, 2017 18:33
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I hand grind my beans every morning for my clever drip because I like tasty coffee and also am a crazy person. I like this thread but I don't have anything to contribute about retail.  Maybe I should open a coffee shop, seems like there's good money in it.
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Jul 31, 2017 18:49
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mandatory lesbian posted:oh okay. deceptive name if you're like me and know nothing about cooking/baking/brewing/whatever food word this counts as idk "cold brew" would seem to imply that the coffee is brewed while cold.
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Jul 31, 2017 19:06
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1st AD posted:idk "cold brew" would seem to imply that the coffee is brewed while cold. yeah, but i also thought it was served cold the only time i had cold brew coffee it was served cold, so i just assumed that was proper serving procedure
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Jul 31, 2017 19:37
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Nevvy Z posted:I hand grind my beans every morning for my clever drip because I like tasty coffee and also am a crazy person. I like this thread but I don't have anything to contribute about retail. if you're in a city maybe, theres like a million near me and they all seem busy
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Jul 31, 2017 19:41
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There's a great article about how vicious opening a coffee shop is. And if you don't fail a chain will open up across the street because you've proved a coffee shop can survive there and run at a loss until you give up.
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Jul 31, 2017 20:13
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I honestly don't understand why anyone gets involved in retail. Unless you're a huge corporation that has the warchest to do all the horrible poo poo needed to defeat your enemies and drive them out of business in the long run it's extremely hard to survive out there outside of certain niches. My friend moved from the city to some middle of nowhere town to run the only restaurant in town because he married into the family that owns it. As part of the deal he was able to get his dream of owning his own cafe, they built an addition or something off the side and now the family owns the only restaurant and only cafe in town. They are doing well because they're the only place in town, and it gets a ton of tourist/through traffic and my friend actually knows what he's doing. But theres absolutely always the risk some garbage chain like Tim Hortons or something will open up across the street, but even then I think he'd still survive because most of the coffee chains sell pretty undrinkable coffee.
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Jul 31, 2017 20:18
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Television has taught me that there's a subset of the prosperous middle class who will sink their whole retirement fund into cutthroat industries they know absolutely nothing about.
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any kind of foodservice is murderously difficult to make money in unless you find a legit niche or you're incredibly skilled at running a restaurant. here in atlanta there's a widely successful popsicle startup that's branching out as a conglomerate because they identified "local hipster popsicles" as a narrow but untapped market
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Jul 31, 2017 20:23
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Some of those places are good but I find them silly, because I get homemade popsicles in exotic flavours from the totally unpretentious Mexican ice cream shop down the street from my old apartment. They've got, like, tamarind chile and avocado lime and stuff.
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I went to the farmer's market in my neighborhood this weekend and bought some food from a falafel truck. I tried to buy a soda (shown on the menu) but was told the market rules disallowed them from selling anything they didn't make themselves. What the hell kind of self-hamstringing is that?
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HEY NONG MAN posted:What the hell kind of self-hamstringing is that? it's kind of the whole point of a farmer's market. maybe a little draconian but still Halloween Jack posted:Some of those places are good but I find them silly, because I get homemade popsicles in exotic flavours from the totally unpretentious Mexican ice cream shop down the street from my old apartment. They've got, like, tamarind chile and avocado lime and stuff. king of pops does it old school style, setting up a little insulated wagon under an umbrella wherever there's foot traffic and they can get a permit
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Jul 31, 2017 20:31
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HEY NONG MAN posted:I went to the farmer's market in my neighborhood this weekend and bought some food from a falafel truck. Probably a farmer's market that had prroblems with people setting up a table to sell regular supermarket produce at a steep markup.
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Jul 31, 2017 20:33
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If you are in a large metro area, the farmer's market rules could be because of incumbent businesses not wanting competition. In Washington, D.C. food trucks were incredibly popular downtown. You could get a decent meal for $5 and they usually included drinks at the same price as convenience stores. They would come and park in parking lots or side streets near the huge office complexes downtown at lunchtime. A bunch of incumbent restaurants eventually sued and lobbied the city to add new rules to food trucks under the guide of "safety" and "fairness." - Food trucks could only park in "designated food truck zones" that were about 10-15 minutes from the office space (the $14 salad places were all buildings right next to the office) - Food truck owners and operators had to pay for criminal background checks for all employees and take a food safety course to get licensed. - Food trucks had to accept credit and debit cards that automatically collected sales tax. - Food trucks couldn't offer a cash discount - Food trucks couldn't sell fountain soft drinks - Food trucks could not sell at farmer's markets or in parks - Food trucks couldn't sell any non-beverage item unless they "substantially improved or altered it" or made it themselves. This was actually the compromise solution. The restaurants wanted to exile them to "the bad" parts of D.C. outside city limits or only after 6pm. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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Jul 31, 2017 20:45
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Some of those regs serve legitimate interests. The location ones are tricky to evaluate without getting into the weeds.
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Jul 31, 2017 20:51
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I'm a socialist, but this is one of those areas of the economy where I'm fine with letting people take their chances on a bacon-wrapped hot dog they bought on the street. I'm in favour of mandatory food safety courses generally.
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Jul 31, 2017 20:54
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yeah the food safety courses are prob a good idea, but only if the owners of the sit-down places also have to take them (which maybe they do, i wouldn't know)
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Jul 31, 2017 20:59
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Discendo Vox posted:Some of those regs serve legitimate interests. The location ones are tricky to evaluate without getting into the weeds. They were all pushed by incumbent restaurants. Restaurant employees are not required to have a mandatory food safety course or criminal background check. Restaurants are not legally required to accept debit and credit Restaurants are allowed to have booths at parks Restaurants can sell oreos or bags of chips. Forcing food trucks to buy cans instead of fountain, park far away, have to pay fees for all their employees, and accept credit cards were all just ways to increase costs that the restaurants went to after they failed to ban them outright.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They were all pushed by incumbent restaurants. The DC City Council is completely powerless to avoid the local lobbying interests. Look at what happened with cabs. For background, it took until TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN for cabs in DC to be required by law to accept credit cards. And the cab lobby was howling bloody murder the whole time. But now Uber/Lyft stole all their business so gently caress 'em. I'll never be stranded on U Street at 4 AM unable to hail down a cab to go home without the credit card reader being "broken" and being forced to bribe the guy $40 for what should've been a $15 ride again!
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Jul 31, 2017 21:25
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Uber is a terrible company, but my God, cab companies are full of poo poo and everyone hates dealing with them.
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Jul 31, 2017 21:28
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Uber vs. Cabbies is one of those fights where "no matter who wins, we lose".
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Jul 31, 2017 21:32
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In DC, they eventually had to ban "zone change" fees for cabs. You used to be charged a certain amount if you changed "zones" during your trip. They broke up the city into several distinct "zones" with cab service. It was to compensate drivers who had to go out of the way and might not be able to pick up a return fare on their way back. Cab drivers would zig-zag up and down with tourists and "zone change" 4-6 times on a trip that required 0 to 1 changes. This could jack the price up as much as 40%. When the council banned zone change fees, they added a new minimum fee that cabs were allowed to charge because people bought cab medallions with the expectation that they could make a certain amount of money by ripping people off and needed to be compensated for that price they paid. Uber has taken the broad abuse that was spread out over thousands of passengers and concentrated the abuse onto a few hundred drivers.
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Jul 31, 2017 21:36
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:In DC, they eventually had to ban "zone change" fees for cabs. And considering a lot of the drivers for Uber are ex-cab drivers, it may even be karmic justice.
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axeil posted:The DC City Council is completely powerless to avoid the local lobbying interests. Look at what happened with cabs. Fun way to solve that broken credit card reader, just walk away. It'll suddenly start working since if they calls the cops, the cop's going not going to side with the cab.
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Great Metal Jesus posted:EDIT: ^^^The A/T thread would be way more equipped than me to answer this one!^^^ Even better: Make your own vacuum siphon setup using laboratory equipment. I did this back in college and it owned, hard: http://makezine.com/projects/the-florence-siphon/ 
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