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Shaggar posted:it would depend on whether or not the furry was non-white.
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do you mean like the Arctic-Nation story from blacksad? 
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anthonypants posted:i don't think most people consider fursuits religious clothing, so it's probably fine Most burqa bans do not ban religious clothing but rather clothing that obscures the face.
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A straight religious clothing ban would be discrimination, can't have that of course
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username/post combo, ya weirdo
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spankmeister posted:A straight religious clothing ban would be discrimination, can't have that of course tell it to french workers in public-serving roles
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Rufus Ping posted:tell it to french workers in public-serving roles
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Rufus Ping posted:tell it to french workers in public-serving roles It's the same in The Netherlands. If you are a public servant then a burqua or niqab are not acceptable. A hijab is of course.
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Powaqoatse posted:username/post combo, ya weirdo I'm not a furry I just really like Tor
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Rufus Ping posted:tell it to french workers in public-serving roles jew ring and muslim earring status: still okay 
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the Quebec government argument there is that there is a strong separation of state and religion, and if you're working as a provincial employee, you represent the government and should also not represent any religion. It's a weird deal, but it needs a bit of context. In the 60s, while the US were putting a man on the moon, priests in Quebec were going door to door encouraging women to have 12+ children each if they didn't want to be bad Catholics. All schools and hospitals were church-run. Schools stopped being ran only by religious organizations in the mid-to-late 60s. Hell, I was in elementary school in the 90s, and the school was run by the government, but a few times a year they'd walk us to the other side of the street to go confess at church. Like all children no matter what. By law, Quebec schools became religion-free in 2005 only. So uh, there's definitely a good bunch of rear end in a top hat racists pushing for these laws, and on the other side, a bunch of people who really want all religion out of the system, and they happen to all sit on the same side of the issue for this.
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MononcQc posted:the Quebec government argument there is that there is a strong separation of state and religion, and if you're working as a provincial employee, you represent the government and should also not represent any religion. This is a good post
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MononcQc posted:the Quebec government argument there is that there is a strong separation of state and religion, and if you're working as a provincial employee, you represent the government and should also not represent any religion. gently caress the Catholics but don't cum in them.
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the quiet revolution was indeed very very good but the party that gave us that was being driven by quite a few bigots thankfully quebeckers aren't stupid
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flakeloaf posted:
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flakeloaf posted:jew ring and muslim earring status: still okay im the half-assed gaudy cross they threw in to try (and fail) to make it look less terrible
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Schadenboner posted:gently caress the Catholics but don't cum in them.
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ate all the Oreos posted:im the half-assed gaudy cross they threw in to try (and fail) to make it look less terrible Granted, I'm like semi-  so I have a perspective here, but (assuming a more-or-less similar culture between the US Midwest and Canadian Quebec, which may of course be less valid than I here assume) the "This is OK" cross conveys a similar amount of religiosity as the yarmulke or the Sikh scarf or the hijab. Also, I've literally never seen anyone with a ring or earrings like that.
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Schadenboner posted:Granted, I'm like semi- The distinction is between say:  Which is a small cross, no real jesus on it, and seen as a kind of accessory that people get when they are young even if you're not religious. It's as religious as wearing a wedding ring for the most part and doesn't carry a lot of meaning. Those tend to be seen as minor and don't bother anyone, and the same size of pendant for most other religions would be accepted (hence the comparison to small earrings or rings, which all have similar catholic variants as well) And this the stuff that is technically 'forbidden' (I don't know if that dress code ever got made official):   Which is a bigger cross with prayer beads, or variants that are more reminiscent of official religious clothing. They carry a stronger religious meaning. MononcQc fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Aug 3, 2017 |
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in quebec, if you can see the abs it's haram
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if you can see the Abs it's the last two weeks of July. The rest of the time you only see the Habs
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MononcQc posted:The distinction is between say: growing up in florida people wearing giant gaudy crosses were basically the norm so i guess i never realized people differentiated between them so much
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Shorter MononcQc: No public religious expression besides Christian public religious expression is permissible.
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oh my god. take this to canpol. this is worse than opsec chat
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Schadenboner posted:Shorter MononcQc: No public religious expression besides Christian public religious expression is permissible. the boomers have to be able to pretend you're not of a different religion for it to be okay.
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I am going to Montreal for a conference on Saturday. How many giant blinged out crosses and stars should I wear to annoy as many French Canadians as possible?
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MononcQc posted:the Quebec government argument there is that there is a strong separation of state and religion, and if you're working as a provincial employee, you represent the government and should also not represent any religion. lol @ all of this quebec
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mrmcd posted:I am going to Montreal for a conference on Saturday. How many giant blinged out crosses and stars should I wear to annoy as many French Canadians as possible?
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mrmcd posted:I am going to Montreal for a conference on Saturday. How many giant blinged out crosses and stars should I wear to annoy as many French Canadians as possible? an american passport and DL will be more than sufficient
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MononcQc posted:Which is a small cross, no real jesus on it, and seen as a kind of accessory that people get when they are young even if you're not religious. It's as religious as wearing a wedding ring for the most part and doesn't carry a lot of meaning. an unadorned cross "without jesus" is actually quite significant, specifically for many protestants. i hope you're not involved in spycraft because your grasp of religious symbolism would probably get somebody killed, a la that scene in inglorious basterds where the american guy holds up the wrong fingers to order 3 beers
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Lutha Mahtin posted:an unadorned cross "without jesus" is actually quite significant, specifically for many protestants. i hope you're not involved in spycraft because your grasp of religious symbolism would probably get somebody killed, a la that scene in inglorious basterds where the american guy holds up the wrong fingers to order 3 beers extremely username/post combo
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copyright infringement as a service isn't a great business model but maybe you shouldn't let corporations execute search warrants
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quote:On June 9, the telecoms got an Anton Piller order, a civil search warrant that gives a plaintiff access to a defendant's home, without notice, to search for and seize relevant evidence before it can be destroyed. jfc what kind of hosed up canadian bullshit is this?
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The_Franz posted:jfc what kind of hosed up canadian bullshit is this? oh man saving this for the next time some poutine lover insults our great land
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flakeloaf posted:copyright infringement as a service isn't a great business model but maybe you shouldn't let corporations execute search warrants keep reading - it wasn't a search warrant and the judge was pissed they get to hold onto his poo poo pending appeal though
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hobbesmaster posted:keep reading - it wasn't a search warrant and the judge was pissed potato potato, they went into his house and riffled through his poo poo making anyone think they can do that is probably bad even when that someone isn't joe natale
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no like they weren't allowed to do that stuff they did in the first place
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hobbesmaster posted:no like they weren't allowed to do that stuff they did in the first place apparently they were, because someone issued a civil search warrant to them and they went into the guy's house and took his stuff. a judge only decided later that what they did was unlawful for whatever reason, yet they still haven't given his stuff because they are appealing the decision.
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Also: the judge said it was void because they overstepped in questioning, and did it for too long (kept it up until midnight instead of stopping at 8pm like the order said). The implication being that if they hadn't done that, it would have been totally legal and the guy would have had no recourse whatsoever.
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spankmeister posted:Most burqa bans do not ban religious clothing but rather clothing that obscures the face. there's lots and lots of places with anti-mask laws
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