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Jaded Burnout posted:Phew. Always a concern when you take a relatively uncommon approach It's not like the office because the punchline isn't that Michael Scott is super racist
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Hoshi posted:It's not like the office because the punchline isn't that Michael Scott is super racist Maybe but what about David Brent?
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How much money do biglaw associates make, anyway? I know the base salaries but how variable are the bonuses - like $30k or $100k? I am trying to compare this to a midsize NY firm that pays $170k first year.
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Throatwarbler posted:How much money do biglaw associates make, anyway? I know the base salaries but how variable are the bonuses - like $30k or $100k? I am trying to compare this to a midsize NY firm that pays $170k first year. No answers until you post the emails. Hey jaded burnout, you sound like you really haven't done a lot of research for someone so curious about the law and it's practice and study. Get your money back and figure out what you want to do. That's life advice.
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Throatwarbler posted:How much money do biglaw associates make, anyway? I know the base salaries but how variable are the bonuses - like $30k or $100k? I am trying to compare this to a midsize NY firm that pays $170k first year. POST THE EMAILS
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Throatwarbler posted:How much money do biglaw associates make, anyway? I know the base salaries but how variable are the bonuses - like $30k or $100k? I am trying to compare this to a midsize NY firm that pays $170k first year. This is a pretty jewish question IMO
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Phil Moscowitz posted:This is a pretty jewish question IMO Super important: always use the word answer from now on when referring to questions.
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hell yeah you guys Rachel Maddow says she has copies of the emails and will be revealing them shortly, gently caress yeah! Tune into MSNBC like now!
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poo poo nevermind it's just his online application for pizza hut from like 6 years ago
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Man I figured with this many posts one would have included the emails.
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Greetings, friends, long time no spost the emails
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Phil Moscowitz posted:The Senior Partner put his pencil down and looked up, and the Warszawa smiled. Reupping this Phil post on the Warszawa because I still think about it all the time.
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missed you too also that's a pretty good answer to the question on biglaw salaries: "you can wear Tom Ford but there's a price, a terrible price..." The Warszawa fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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I just got my first jury summons. I am promptly submitting a postponement though I somehow don't expect to be impaneled. That said, throatwarbler is definitely guilty of not posting the emails.
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The Warszawa posted:missed you too Hard to believe that Phil post was in 2014, before Trump even declared.
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yes, in the before fore
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Mudd & Associates P.C. Is dead. I now work for "the man" and make six figures. Edit: go to law school. Live with unbearable stress for 5 years until it puts you in the ER. Cash out.
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drat dude, what was the ER trip about? you OK?
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mastershakeman posted:drat dude, what was the ER trip about? you OK? Yeah. Severe colitis, most likely caused by stress. The. Stress. Of. Not. Reading. Those. Emails.
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Roger_Mudd posted:Mudd & Associates P.C. Is dead. Firm or other?
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Firm or other? Firm.
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Throatwarbler posted:How much money do biglaw associates make, anyway? I know the base salaries but how variable are the bonuses - like $30k or $100k? I am trying to compare this to a midsize NY firm that pays $170k first year. You know, most people would be able to find an answer to that question by Googling it. Try it. Go to google, type in “post my emails”, and hit I’m Feeling Lucky.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Hey jaded burnout, you sound like you really haven't done a lot of research for someone so curious about the law and it's practice and study. Get your money back and figure out what you want to do. That's life advice. Eh. There's only so much learning about learning about something you can do before you have to start actually learning about it. I'll see how it goes. Thanks for the advice, though.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Seriously though, really enjoying how we're going to be bound by GDPR and a bunch of other EU laws without the ability to influence them. If I hadn't got myself a backup EU citizenship I wouldn't be protected by them either. I'm really enjoying the fact that the GDPR is hitting every business and government org like a smack in the face when it's implemented unrevised through the EEC. Thousands of businesses boned without the prerequisite competency on law, computers and english (wording matters, and english wording matters more). And here I sit, a computer nerd with a law degree, experience and a specialty in public law - and a fair grasp of the english language. Oh yes, the GDPR is very welcome and I hope it lands me a nice and cushy job supervising or some other nebulous crap. I should probably start preparing for the coming storm right now.
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My tech clients are already getting started so yeah I'd get on that if I were you.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Eh. There's only so much learning about learning about something you can do before you have to start actually learning about it. I'll see how it goes. Thanks for the advice, though. You literally didn't know there was some other degree program available to you (that sounded like it may be better suited to you) until like, yesterday.
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Roger_Mudd posted:Firm. Eyyyyyy congrats man!
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:You literally didn't know there was some other degree program available to you (that sounded like it may be better suited to you) until like, yesterday. Jaded Burnout posted:I didn't find out about the GDL until after "after" being after I'd financially committed to the LLB, not yesterday. What I'd missed was the 14 day cancel option I had on the LLB, without which there wasn't much point me looking any harder at the GDL. Also, it's definitely not better suited.
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A question to the litigators: how do you deal with anxiety re: lovely opposing counsel? I was hired mostly as a researcher/writer, but once in a while a litigation file will come across my desk. Whenever I get into heated discussions with opposing counsel, it causes me a lot of anxiety and stress because I don't have a lot of experience dealing with these types of personalities. Drink more?
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Tipps posted:A question to the litigators: how do you deal with anxiety re: lovely opposing counsel? Wrong profession to be honest. Litigators get paid for conflict.
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Tipps posted:A question to the litigators: how do you deal with anxiety re: lovely opposing counsel? Therapy. I can get very anxious when dealing with aggressive oc. Years of therapy have taught me how to deal with the physiological reactions. Aside from that, pretending to be confident in my actions. Worst case scenario is usually that I lose a case. Which isn't that bad.
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Tipps posted:A question to the litigators: how do you deal with anxiety re: lovely opposing counsel? Exposure Therapy. And don't worry, you'll get alot of it.
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My emotional response to those kinds of assholes has always been anger.
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Tipps posted:A question to the litigators: how do you deal with anxiety re: lovely opposing counsel? generally, the shittier opposing counsel is, the weaker their case if they're lovely to me it makes it a personal delight to destroy their case and it feels much better finding the legal technicality that opens a trapdoor under their client dropping him into a pit filled with spikes i still have the decision on my wall from one guy who tried screaming at me that i didn't understand the issues at issue in a case where the judge ruled in our favor on all five independent reasons to throw out his case, along with a finding that his client was not credible, making the decision absolutely appeal-proof, and noting that the guy's own expert had essentially confirmed our entire case guess i understood the issues pretty well 
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evilweasel posted:generally, the shittier opposing counsel is, the weaker their case My arch nemesis is a guy I've dealt with on two separate matters, and not only is he a terrible attorney, he's also smug, combative and lovely. He literally has no idea what he's doing, so his MO is to act more and more holier-than-thou and dismissive of everything until he finally loses. Both of our cases against his clients (government entities) were specifically because he advised his entity that they could do "X" and wrote the ordinances/letters/emails helping them do "X", and "X" was literally unconstitutional, and borderline criminal. He got dropkicked out of court so hard that he still hasn't landed. God drat, now I'm angry just thinking about that stupid piece of poo poo. omg I'm the lovely opposing counsel?
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I get very flat with them. I will literally respond to their letters with a letter that says "K." They're looking to get a reaction out of you and not getting one pisses them off.
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Doctor & Med School Thread cross postin': http://www.npr.org/2017/08/02/541126799/new-fears-for-public-service-loan-forgiveness Any thoughts from the thread on the first wave of PSLF that we're all waiting for this fall? I remember that article from the WSJ a year or two back about a lawyer's paperwork getting denied, sky is falling, etc, but I thought that was due to the tax status of the organization. Any chance that 501c3s get treated differently? Also post the e-mail.
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I had a guy one time send us a response letter (we had said, "look, your client has exposure for misrepresenting the financials of the business, and our client has exposure for breaking the contract, lets just walk away") that simply said, "You're client is trying to run and hide because the summary judgment freight train is comin' down the tracks!" We laughed pretty hard at that, and then during a deposition, one of his associates told us he once sent a similar response letter that just said: Dear Counselor, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH Regards, Dipshit.
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blarzgh posted:I had a guy one time send us a response letter (we had said, "look, your client has exposure for misrepresenting the financials of the business, and our client has exposure for breaking the contract, lets just walk away") that simply said, "You're client is trying to run and hide because the summary judgment freight train is comin' down the tracks!" I really wanted a sic there
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