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wicka
Jun 28, 2007


harperdc posted:

This would mean he misses the Singapore GP, but as he's already missed Monaco for the 500, a precedent has been set.

They should be able to get a good result in Singapore, too, but if he wants to go they have to let him. They pretty much have to give him whatever he wants if they expect him to stick around.

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WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind
If Alonso does Sonoma, coming to Indycar next year has to be a serious option for him. Serious enough that if I were McClaren, I would throw all the money in the world for him to stay in F1.

I wonder if Alonso would do something along the lines of staying in F1 with MC, but sign on for only one guaranteed year with an Alonso option for 2-3 more. Or perhaps a contract with performance clauses that lets him do Indy or other races over here should the car be terrible again.

At least he knows he holds all the leverage here.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

maybe hes just going to participate in the big 'new driver' test that all the teams do before sonoma now... i think that would be my guess right now

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

I really wish McLaren, Red Bull, and Haas would use IndyCar to house satelite teams. (Use them for "test drivers", and such) But I digress.

Alonso feels more "at home" here and seems to miss it. That's unusual to say, but his actions during the season seem to show me that.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind
Wishful thinking. Then again, if F1 wanted to make better inroads in the US, having familiar F1 teams and liveries show up for the 500 or select other Indycar races might not be the worst investment in the world.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


FuzzySkinner posted:

I really wish McLaren, Red Bull, and Haas would use IndyCar to house satelite teams. (Use them for "test drivers", and such) But I digress.

Alonso feels more "at home" here and seems to miss it. That's unusual to say, but his actions during the season seem to show me that.

The funny thing is that Indy does award points towards eligibility for a super license, including 40 points (which is what you need to race in F1) if you finish 1st in the championship standings. SiPag could race in F1 now if someone offered him a ride.

WindyMan posted:

Wishful thinking. Then again, if F1 wanted to make better inroads in the US, having familiar F1 teams and liveries show up for the 500 or select other Indycar races might not be the worst investment in the world.

It would, but the 500 is likely out of the question for most teams, or at least their main drivers, as long as Monaco is the same date.

Theris
Oct 9, 2007

iospace posted:

The funny thing is that Indy does award points towards eligibility for a super license, including 40 points (which is what you need to race in F1) if you finish 1st in the championship standings. SiPag could race in F1 now if someone offered him a ride.

Fun fact: before the "points earned over three years" system was established, simply finishing in the top 5 in Indycar standings made you eligible for a super license.

I'm sure that resulted in a pretty hilarious list of people eligible for a super license over the years that you would never actually expect.

Edit: Marco and Danica :v:

Theris fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Aug 6, 2017

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Alonso holds all the leverage by staying with McLaren/Honda. He loses that taking some dumb full time IndyCar ride. Until they provide him with a competitive car he can pretty much make any demand he wants whether it be go slumming for a month in America or Le Mans or whatever. He has a major automotive manufacturer and race team by the balls.

Proud Christian Mom fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Aug 6, 2017

AxeBreaker
Jan 1, 2005
Who fucking cares?

iospace posted:

anyone want a gang tag?

Yes please!

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Proud Christian Mom posted:

Alonso holds all the leverage by staying with McLaren/Honda. He loses that taking some dumb full time IndyCar ride. Until they provide him with a competitive car he can pretty much make any demand he wants whether it be go slumming for a month in America or Le Mans or whatever. He has a major automotive manufacturer and race team by the balls.

Or McLaren start an Indycar program, which they said they were looking into around the 500.

Bentai
Jul 8, 2004


NERF THIS!


IIRC, starting a team here is pretty contingent on getting their engine problems fixed and returning to being one of the top 3-4 teams.

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

Although that would also be the one thing that would prevent Alonso wanting to move to drive for it.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


The scenario we should all be rooting for is: Alonso re-signs for McLaren, wins the world title next year, leaves F1 to do IndyCar and Le Mans in 2019.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
Figured you guys might be interested in seeing this crucial piece of Hinchcliffe advertisment exclusive to people who live in civilized non-hosed-up-beyond-all-metrics countries...

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

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All I want is Alonso to win a 500, and then a Le Mans drive that has both JPM and Alonso on it so they can both knock out the triple.

I'd say an LMP1 drive but... uh... :rip:

edit: also modify the triple so it's just a monaco win and not a championship win because I forgot JPM never won the title.

Spaced God fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Aug 7, 2017

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Spaced God posted:

All I want is Alonso to win a 500, and then a Le Mans drive that has both JPM and Alonso on it so they can both knock out the triple.

I'd say an LMP1 drive but... uh... :rip:

edit: also modify the triple so it's just a monaco win and not a championship win because I forgot JPM never won the title.

1) LMP1 isn't dead, and if he gets into Toyota soon he'll either win or suffer the most indignified loss Le Mans has ever seen.
2) I was pretty sure the Triple was Le Mans, Monaco, Indy? It doesn't make sense for it to be "Championship, Race, Race".

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

Schlesische posted:

1) LMP1 isn't dead, and if he gets into Toyota soon he'll either win or suffer the most indignified loss Le Mans has ever seen.
2) I was pretty sure the Triple was Le Mans, Monaco, Indy? It doesn't make sense for it to be "Championship, Race, Race".

Alonso could very well do championship, championship, championship if he wanted to.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

https://twitter.com/Knighter01/status/894223428785496064

Rossi throwing shade at that one stupid question having been asked by NASCAR media types since the 90's. LOVE IT.

gret
Dec 12, 2005

goggle-eyed freak


Wirth1000 posted:

Figured you guys might be interested in seeing this crucial piece of Hinchcliffe advertisment exclusive to people who live in civilized non-hosed-up-beyond-all-metrics countries...



So which toppings did you pick?

Theris
Oct 9, 2007

Schlesische posted:

2) I was pretty sure the Triple was Le Mans, Monaco, Indy? It doesn't make sense for it to be "Championship, Race, Race".

Wikipedia allows either Monaco OR the WDC, based on what seems to be differing opinions of various motorsport journalists. Graham Hill is still the only one to pull it off either way.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Theris posted:

Wikipedia allows either Monaco OR the WDC, based on what seems to be differing opinions of various motorsport journalists. Graham Hill is still the only one to pull it off either way.

I think had Jacques or Juan had decided to focus on ALMS/WEC in 2007 rather than Cup, perhaps we're discussing those guys joining the club?

I think Juan still has a shot.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

gret posted:

So which toppings did you pick?

I didn't go with the ... ahem... Hinch deal or whatever. Current $11.11 deal for a large with 3 toppings and a dip for $11.11 + tax. Pepperoni, mushroom and tomatoes with free toppings of olive oil and italiano seasoning. :discourse:

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


Tomatoes are one of the all-time great foods

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

wicka posted:

Tomatoes are one of the all-time great foods

Yo, I fuckin' LOVE tomatoes

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

Wirth1000 posted:

I didn't go with the ... ahem... Hinch deal or whatever. Current $11.11 deal for a large with 3 toppings and a dip for $11.11 + tax. Pepperoni, mushroom and tomatoes with free toppings of olive oil and italiano seasoning. :discourse:

Too bad they were probably button mushrooms. Button mushrooms are trash.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

Minto Took posted:

Too bad they were probably button mushrooms. Button mushrooms are trash.

I'm trying to build a bridge between the F1 thread and the IndyCar thread. Comments like yours are not helping. Reported.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


Wirth1000 posted:

Yo, I fuckin' LOVE tomatoes

I buy cherry tomatoes and just eat them like candy

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
We grow them in the yard. Just one bite and a burst of flavour in your mouth.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


I should grow some again to make homemade sauce

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
Do it but please I hope you understand what it means to season your homemade sauce. I've had too many "homemade sauces" by friends who love to brag about how it all tastes so fresh and everything except one bite in and it's the most flavourless poo poo of all time.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Haha, yeah. It's been a while though

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

Wirth1000 posted:

I'm trying to build a bridge between the F1 thread and the IndyCar thread. Comments like yours are not helping. Reported.

I'm just saying one should go baby bella at least since it is the superior pizza mushroom.

gret
Dec 12, 2005

goggle-eyed freak


Wirth1000 posted:

Yo, I fuckin' LOVE tomatoes

Seems redundant with tomato sauce. I'd spend the extra ingredient on sausages or something.

Bentai
Jul 8, 2004


NERF THIS!


http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/142959-foyt-wins-with-1hp-in-west-virginia-derby

quote:

A.J. Foyt reckons he's won races in about dozen states but he added a new one Saturday. His three-year-old thoroughbred named Colonel Dark Temper captured the 48th annual West Virginia Derby at the Mountaineer Casino & Racetrack in New Cumberland, West Va.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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gently caress horse racing, it is absolutely horrible in every possible way

source: i spent most of my life living in and around saratoga springs

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

gret posted:

Seems redundant with tomato sauce. I'd spend the extra ingredient on sausages or something.

Pizza sauce is vastly different in taste, structure and texture than a nice juicy slice of an unmolested tomato baked on top of its crusty cheese vessel for transportation to your oral cavity, fam

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

quote:

The McLaren executive was happy to quash speculation regarding Alonso returning to Andretti Autosport in a fifth entry for the Sonoma championship finale that have made the rounds in North America.

"It's completely crazy," he said. "He would have to first make that request through us, which he has not, and that [Sonoma] event conflicts with F1 in Singapore. It's fake news."

Booooo

http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/142996-brown-weighing-options-on-alonso-s-indy-future

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


Don't say "fake news," Zak.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

wicka posted:

Don't say "fake news," Zak.

I loving hate seeing this poo poo pop up everywhere now, holy poo poo. Toto Wolff said it to in regards to Eddie Jordan's poo poo a few weeks back and arrrgh

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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Usually when I post something like this some big news item will drop.

That all being said, have you guys noticed USAC has started to sanction some series that are actually outside of their usual series? Stadium Super Trucks, The Atlantics Series, and Pirelli World Challenge are now all sanctioned by USAC.

Is there a reason behind any of this?

Also I do wonder why there's a "split" between USAC and IMS as it were. I KNOW about the 1997 IRL Season, but it's a bit odd considering Tony Hulman founded USAC and all. How does IMS/ICS have zero control over that sanctioning body?

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