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SpookyLizard posted:I'm gonna say it right now, god I loving hate this Route. Mostly because playing as 9S is so goddamned boring. I"d rather wail on a dude for a minute or two than just push triangle and kill them. I missed the heavy attack so much.
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Zomborgon posted:I missed the heavy attack so much. You still have heavy attack. It's just harder to access. I think it's holding attack in the middle of a combo or something like that. Been a bit since I played, though.
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chiasaur11 posted:You still have heavy attack. It's just harder to access. I think it's holding attack in the middle of a combo or something like that. Sadly it's still not the same. 9s' charge attacks are amazing at least, Spear and Bracers in particular. Charge Attack+ chips might actually be worthwhile on him.
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RatHat posted:Sadly it's still not the same. 9s' charge attacks are amazing at least, Spear and Bracers in particular. Charge Attack+ chips might actually be worthwhile on him. I enjoyed playing as 9S so much more once I put away the sword and started using bracers.
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Aug 7, 2017 07:32
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Zerilan posted:I enjoyed playing as 9S so much more once I put away the sword and started using bracers. Yeah, his bracer moveset is really fun. Kinda removes the close-range limitation.
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Zerilan posted:I enjoyed playing as 9S so much more once I put away the sword and started using bracers. There's a bracer that I don't think TDI has yet that is just so much fun to use with 9S. And hacking is just so pleasant against things like the snake enemies and the medium flyers. And of course the gold enemies and bosses. So OP.
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Junpei posted:Hahahaha Persona 5 joke. I REALLY want you to LP that, Id. whats the persona 5 joke, i can't find it. edit: oh that's the actual lyrics?? welp Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Aug 7, 2017 08:27
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should have maxed out the star arcana, nines edit: i feel contractually obliged to post this when p5 is evoked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUWQFnC2zqU
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Aug 7, 2017 08:32
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Personally I just used Spears as 9S, thought it was appropriate.
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Aug 7, 2017 08:34
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9S's bare hands do something neat, it's worth showing off that moveset.
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Dabir posted:9S's bare hands do something neat, it's worth showing off that moveset. *9S furiously makes gang signs, pretends to removes his thumb, makes shadow puppets* 2B: Do deformed rabbit. It's my favorite.
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HR12345 posted:It's the regular batlle theme to the game, Last Surprise. I've played Persona 5 for 20 hours and I didn't even know the battle theme had English lyrics. I thought it was Japanese or Chaos language. I read the update twice looking for the Persona 5 joke.
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Aug 7, 2017 13:41
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Okay, this has to at least do with Nier in some form. I had heard about this game, Rabi-Ribi after seeing a remix for a theme on Youtube. I looked up the TV Tropes page for the game and while it is Metroidvania meets Touhou, what got me was that in the YMMV page, the Spiritual Adaptation trope says it's the closest thing we'll get to a 2D Nier game, and one that's lighter and softer. Anyone wanna explain?
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Aug 7, 2017 13:52
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I've played rabi ribi and it doesn't have anything to do with nier
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don't read tvtropes
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HR12345 posted:Okay, this has to at least do with Nier in some form. The explanation is never read TV Tropes. e;fb
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Mazerunner posted:I originally thought that 2B was straight up shooting the struts out of her rear end cheeks at first, not that she was sitting on a little holo stool. I'm still not convinced that isn't what's happening.
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Checked the game's Steam page. It's a 2-D platformer with some bullet-hell-esque patterns. That's it, that's the similarity to Nier.
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SpookyLizard posted:I'm gonna say it right now, god I loving hate this Route. Mostly because playing as 9S is so goddamned boring. I"d rather wail on a dude for a minute or two than just push triangle and kill them. some guy on the bus posted:I've played Persona 5 for 20 hours and I didn't even know the battle theme had English lyrics. I thought it was Japanese or Chaos language. So you never saw that joke coming?
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Kurtofan posted:should have maxed out the star arcana, nines I just wanna say I really enjoyed this. Here are the rest of the English lyrics to that song, if anyone wants to learn the whole thing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFVj0Z6ahcI
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I honestly enjoy playing as 9S more than 2B, but I guess that makes me a crazy person so
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Rainuwastaken posted:I honestly enjoy playing as 9S more than 2B, but I guess that makes me a crazy person so I did too. I loved the hacking. I could ignore it when I felt like just slashing enemies, or I could use it to break fights up with a fun little shooter game. I'm replaying the game now and I'm not sure if I want to bother with all the sidequests as 2B in route A or just wait until I get back to being 9S for them.
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RatHat posted:Sadly it's still not the same. 9s' charge attacks are amazing at least, Spear and Bracers in particular. Charge Attack+ chips might actually be worthwhile on him. He does actually have a heavy combo string if you delay his string after the first Light Attack, or if you do a Light Attack after a backdash.
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The hacking is pretty divisive. I also loved it but mostly because of the rad chiptune.
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Overall I enjoyed playing as 9S more than 2B. While the hack and slash is fun, it gets repetitive after awhile as the systems end up boiling down to "spam your OP dodge when in danger". The ability to switch between hack and slash and...well, hacking, added a lot of variety. And the hacking chiptunes are awesome.
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apocalypticCritic posted:I haven't played Persona 5 on account of having no (desire to get a) PS4, so I have a lesser appreciation of the joke, I fear. And Atlus' draconian LP rules mean I haven't even experienced it vicariously through other people in 30-40 minute chunks of terrible gameplay and commentary that ranges from moderately humorous to nail-pullingly painful. Arist is doing a screenshot LP of Persona 5 right now. I don't know if Atlus thought to cover screenshot LPs, but hopefully they overlook this one.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Merriam-Webster itself disagrees with you. It is you who are wrong. Did you read the entire page for that entry? Merriam-Webster agrees with me. Let's stop the derail. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The 9S playthrough sucks. His combat is far too limited and hacking gets really old, really fast.
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wiegieman posted:We are, all of us, living in the future. But when will they take the next step in convenience and combine bionic pants with a use-anywhere portable toilet?
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2B's a lot more fun to fight with than 9S, but I still enjoy playing as 9S as there's a LOT of fun banter in his play through. Hacking I'm sort of mixed on as it can be a LOT of fun with some great music, but it's practically cheating in terms of effectiveness.
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Hacking would be way more fun if enemies -- bosses at the very least -- had unique minigames of their own. Instead, nearly everything uses the same pool of, like, 12 setups that you see a hundred times each over the course of the game. That, plus the fact that time freezes while you're doing the minigame, completely destroys any sort of connection to the story or tension in the fight you might have felt. Hell, hacking pauses the dialogue, so you constantly cut people off mid-sentence to do your hacking thing for a few seconds for the bajillionth time. 9S gameplay feels like a party where you're sitting in a corner playing Angry Birds on your phone, while 2B is dancing and having fun. megane fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Episode LXX: Trolling My Future Self.jpg)  Music: Fortress of Lies (Vocal) .jpg)  She’s probably waiting in her room now..jpg) Welcome back to space. It’s been quite a while since we’ve visited the Bunker. 9S has skipped past the recent millennia backstory recap and meeting the newly respawned 2B in the hall for a daily hailing to the glory of mankind. He instead opts to jump right ahead to 2B’s reboot diagnostics session. .jpg) We’ll go link up with 2B and get her sorted out in a minute. For now, we’ve gotten a new mail notification. We actually have access to both 2B and 9S’s emails for... some reason. 2B will receive the exact same mail 9S gets throughout Route B. So I don’t really get the point. Also some mail has been deleted between routes, mostly main plot relevant stuff but... not all of it? There’s a bit of clutter relevant to sidequests (that both 2B and 9S can complete) that still remains as well. .jpg) .jpg) Now that we’re .jpg) .jpg) There is a Challenge Mode and Training Mode available with hacking. Training Mode just offers a host of scenarios where 9S can practice his hacking skills. I see zero reason to ever use this since buddy, there ain’t no lack of hacking chances in Route B. I don’t *think* there’s any reward doing these. At least I did all 20 available and got gently caress all. .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) Challenge Mode, on the other hand, just tosses 9S into the deep end with an unending stream of consecutive hacks of increasing difficulty with Ironman rules in effect (three hits and we’re done.) .jpg) Challenge Mode does offer rewards for surviving long enough. There’s only 12 levels of challenge mode available at the start of the game. It goes up to 48 levels. The reward for completing the entire end game Challenge Mode is a suite of pretty decent +7 Plugin Chips along with 50,000 G. Which is pretty ehh for like ten minutes straight of the hacking mini-game. There’s no achievement or anything tied to this nor does anyone acknowledge 9S’s elite hacking skills if it’s completed. But it’s there if anyone REALLY feels like getting their hacking on beyond the 18,000 times 9S will be doing hacks in the future. .jpg) Now then, let’s get back on task and reunite with 2B in her room. .jpg) 9S, please don’t stare up your unconscious partner’s skirt. Yes, it’s highly irresponsible for 2B to go into standby mode pointing in that direction. That’s no excuse. .jpg) To continue, we need to move 9S to a less unfortunate angle of approach and hack into 2B to begin her diagnostic session. Remember that...? .jpg) First, you’ll want to check your brightness settings. .jpg) Hey... So you remember how there was a little recording indicator when we did this the first time and 9S mentioned as much. Turns out they weren’t kidding around! We get no control over this part of the game. Instead we get to be 9S watching 2B, our former self, gently caress around with option settings. In real time... So if you screwed about with getting the brightness settings perfect or got up to take a quick piss... guess what, idiot! That was a real rude thing to do to 9S and now it’s coming back to haunt you. .jpg)  ...... Okay, I found the guide! If you can just follow that, it’ll make things easier..jpg) Let’s start by getting the brightness set. <fucks around trying to get the levels visible for 40 seconds> Okay. How does this look? <silently types out a grammar nazi diatribe how it’s actually spelt “OK” and 9S should know better, wasting a minute of everyone’s time. Still answers with “Okay” to progress.> Roger that. Oh, and I should probably let you know that this entire process is being recorded for posterity. .jpg) Seems your voice recognition is set to mute, which isn’t gonna work. I’m gonna call out to you now—make sure you can hear my voice. Ma’am? Are you there? Can you hear me? Uh, hellooo? Go ahead and adjust your settings so you can hear me, all right? Adjust the settings until you can hear my voice. Er, could you try and pick up the pace a little bit? This is getting embarrassing... Ma’am? Are you there? Can you hear me? Uh, helloo— <Hits confirm after 9S’s dialogue is confirmed to be looping>.jpg) Oh, uh, th-thank you! ...Anyway, that takes care of the settings. (Ngh!? What the heck? My pulse rate is rising! Hmm... It seems to be back to normal now. How odd.) Er, hold on. Your self-destruct permissions are missing. Wait a sec, we need to restore those. .jpg) <Leaves off> Huh? Wait, no. You need to leave that turned on. <Naw> Yeah... you can’t really do that. It needs to be turned on except in very specific cases. <gently caress the police!> I’m afraid I can’t leave this as-is, ma’am. Please give your permission. <Get bent!> Hey, come on now! I’m just trying to follow regulations here. <This will just lead to most people trying it out and getting a bad ending.> Hey, come on now! I’m just trying to follow regulations here. <Your dialogue is looping now. Fiiiiine.> Okay, good. If things go wrong during an op, you may have to sacrifice yourself in order to finish it, sooo... Once you’re finished making adjustments, you can go ahead and close this. <Wait changed my mind. Eat it, dweeb.> I know no one LIKES the idea of self-destructing. But that’s what regulations call for. Still, I’ll keep it a secret from the Commander. <Flips it back on just to be contrarian>.jpg) I’m gonna tap you on the shoulders, all right? <minor control vibration> LIE: <No.> Huh? That’s odd. Everything should be set up correctly. Here, let me try somewhere else. I’m gonna tap you on the arm this time, okay? <moderate rumble> LIE: <Nope. Are you actually doing this blindfolded?> Huh? Really? (2B must have felt that... Maybe she’s just messing with me.) Well, if you say so. How about this? (Should I tap her here, though? She might get angry at me.) <advanced rumble> LIE: <No. Also silently sending a memo to YoRHa’s HR department> *exasperated* Are you serious...? You didn’t feel anything just now...? Well then, let’s try something else. (No turning back now, I guess...) <controller goes nuts for like 10 seconds> ...Well? LIE: <No. Letter to HR Department now sent.> Hmm... I don’t know what’s causing this, so we’ll need to run some precision diagnostics later. Regardless, that’s the end of the check for now. .jpg) .jpg) Ugh... Uhh... <sits up and puts on blindfold>.jpg) The Commander’s put me in charge of your maintenance, ma’am. I know the Operators are the ones to usually do that kind of thing. But one of them found a cache of pictures about something called a “panda”. I guess it's a cute animal and you know how that goes... ...I see. Oh, don’t worry. We 9S models are the best around, you know. Though I suppose we’re not exactly known for our modesty. I saw you get broken in half earlier due to falling like 30 feet. <frown> ...Nobody said we were the most durable models. ...... 9S? Hm? What is it, ma’am? Stop calling me ma’am. How many times do I have to tell yo—oh... Right. Just knock it off. A-All right. If you say so, 2B. Hey—idea! Why don’t you start calling me Nines? ...... How about no? O-oh... Okay... Well, the Commander wanted to see us about something. We’d better go see what’s up, ma—er, 2B! Hey, is it OK if I called you “Toobie”? <visibly glares through blindfold> No. S-Sorry....jpg) Off we go to see the Commander and get our mission orders to fly down to the City Ruins and link up with the Resistance. Spoilers. Before we head there, I did forget about a voiced background conversation early on in the game happening between a pair of androids hanging out in one of the staff bedrooms. Specifically, 8B’s room. Let’s go remedy that... .jpg)  Hey, what do you think of my waistline? What are you talking about? I’ve been working out lately. Ohh... Hey, well... Now that you mention it... W-What?! You can’t just tell by looking at me!? Well it’s just that... ya know, it’s hard to tell with the clothes you’re wearing. Tch. Seriously...? I’ve been exercising my BUTT off! Well, you should wear some tighter outfits to show off your curves. So... do you work out every day? Well... maybe not every day... A girl has her moments, you know. But at least... once every... two or three days or so! I’m sure it was really noticeable too. Come on, that’s hardly even trying. You have to keep up a regular pace, you know. You’re looking... just fine, though. Tch. Well, sorry we can’t ALL be as slim as you... Heeey! Don’t blame me just because *I* look good. Gimme a break!.jpg) This raises a lot of questions. Like did humans give androids the ability to gain and lose weight, which seems unlikely given an earlier conversation during a sidequest where 2B didn’t seem to know about humans being able to get fat. Which means they programmed androids dumb enough to not know exercise doesn’t actually do anything for them... Well, who knows? It’s canonical that Drakenier universe androids can get drunk despite not needing to eat or drink anything besides water. Anything is possible. .jpg) In any case, let’s go link up with the Commander. None of the Operators or other idle YoRHa androids have anything different to say with 9S in the lead of this playthrough. .jpg)  Maintenance finished? Yes, Commander. You detonated your black box in order to defeat the enemy. Bold, but risky. Try not to be so reckless next time. Specifically, try not to ram your Flight Units into anymore walls. Do you know how much a single one of those cost? I could jettison the entire deck of Operators out an airlock and it would cost less than losing one of those. Don’t let it happen again! Understood. All right. New mission: You two go back to Earth and link up with the Resistance. There is an unusually dense amount of activity in a specific square mile of a ruined human city and surrounding regions that I want you all to investigate. Got it. Oh and one last thing... The self-destruct function is strictly prohibited on the Bunker. ...Who’d be stupid enough to self-destruct in a space station? Nobody yet. But I just have this lingering feeling like it’s a good idea to remind you two of that fact. Understood. ...Yeah. We’ll try not to blow up the Bunker, Commander... Good. You have your orders..jpg) .jpg) .jpg) And that’s all there is to our Bunker revisit. Unless I’m forgetting something, Route B doesn’t get any additional sidequests up here. So beyond the brief mandatory story visit, this is the last we’ll see of the Bunker for quite some time. .jpg) .jpg) That concludes Chapter 1B of NieR: Automata. Tune in next time as we begin our speedrun through the next several chapters of the game. We have to go unlock goddamn Fast Travel again via the same story mission in Chapter 5 and there’s all of like... three new scenes during that time.     Video: Episode 70 Highlight Reel   The Bunker Concept Art – I think there’s only one very brief shot of the outside of the Bunker and it’s not for some time. Here’s what it looks like if you were wondering.
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I think I prefer playing as 9S.
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I think there is actually one 9s exclusive quest on the Bunker.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:50
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Nines wouldn't settle for his sidekick getting a lame nickname like "Toobie". He'd go for something cool, like "Toobster".
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Which he would get to use all of once, accidentally say "Boobster" instead, and get a roundhouse-kick to the face for his trouble. 9S is dumb and bad.
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So, can 9S explode too? Or do you just explode 2B when you hit that button?
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This second playthrough went from, potentially, really interesting... to boring and feeling like a waste of time and a downgrade to the core gameplay real quick.
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