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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying 2nd Edition is back and purchasable on drivethrurpg again: https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/54/Cubicle-7-Entertainment-Ltd/subcategory/179_4943/Warhammer-Fantasy-Roleplay-2nd-Edition Wonder if this will/could happen to the 40k RPGs too?
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Drone posted:Wonder if this will/could happen to the 40k RPGs too? Maybe if they find someone to start on a new edition, but probably not until then.
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https://twitter.com/FFGames/status/894936917128728581
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But GURPS already exists.
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Would almost guarantee it's an LCG or something, not an RPG. If it's an RPG, maybe they licensed their weird 'use your own stats in the apocalypse' thing for it.
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And so we come full circle. I really hope Steve Jackson is still kicking himself, but I very much doubt it.
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I want a WFRP3/EotE style Fallout RPG, but SPECIAL is such a terrible stat array. So torn.
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It's going to be a four player board game that costs $100 plus optional expansions at $10-15 each
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Len posted:It's going to be a four player board game that costs $100 plus optional expansions at $10-15 each 
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The first expansion is Skyrim. As are the others.
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Splicer posted:I want a WFRP3/EotE style Fallout RPG, but SPECIAL is such a terrible stat array. https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/6/27/genesys/
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Not your typical grognardy news story about boardgames: https://www.theguardian.com/artandd...amwala-pakistan
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It's a board game: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/fantasy-flight-announces-fallout-board-game.aspx
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FMguru posted:Not your typical grognardy news story about boardgames: https://www.theguardian.com/artandd...amwala-pakistan Aw man the game's not available yet. 
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Lemniscate Blue posted:It's a board game: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/fantasy-flight-announces-fallout-board-game.aspx Oh cool, another implementation of Talisman--after Relic, RuneQuest, World of Warcraft, etc
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kaynorr posted:And so we come full circle. I really hope Steve Jackson is still kicking himself, but I very much doubt it. Of course he isn't. He's still pulling in that sweet, sweet Munchkin money.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:It's a board game: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/fantasy-flight-announces-fallout-board-game.aspx Yes! I can safely not give a gently caress.
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mango sentinel posted:Yes! I can safely not give a gently caress. it's a fantasy flight product, you already knew not to give a gently caress
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I'm honestly surprised Todd hasn't ported Skyrim to the last great platform... The D20 SRD.
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Plutonis posted:I'm honestly surprised Todd hasn't ported Skyrim to the last great platform... The D20 SRD. Is the 3e ogl still available?
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Evil Mastermind posted:You know that FFG is coming out with a generic version of their Warhammer/EotE dice system, right? e: still going to get it though Splicer fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Splicer posted:generic system -> genesys
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mango sentinel posted:Is the 3e ogl still available? It effectively can't go away at this point without some major court wrangling. Even if Hasbro went and altered the OGL so it couldn't be used as it is currently, I believe there's nothing keeping you from just using an older version of the OGL because of section 9.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:It effectively can't go away at this point without some major court wrangling. Even if Hasbro went and altered the OGL so it couldn't be used as it is currently, I believe there's nothing keeping you from just using an older version of the OGL because of section 9. For all the things people say about Gary Gygax, he was totally right that the OGL was a bad idea that'd result in a competitor stealing D&D from them.
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You know what would be fun? A Battle Century G game where everyone works for the EDF (Earth Defense Force) as it defends the planet from Daikaiju from Godzilla's rogue's gallery...and Godzilla too, of course. Bonus Points: If you use Kiryu (Mechagodillza from 2002's Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla who is e a Mechagodzilla made from the original Godzilla's skeleton and retains that godzilla's genetic memory) as a player character's mecha. Covok fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Covok posted:You know what would be fun? A Battle Century G game where everyone works for the EDF (Earth Defense Force) as it defends the planet from Daikaiju from Godzilla's rogue's gallery...and Godzilla too, of course. That would be cool
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Plutonis posted:That would be cool I'd run it but I run a Force & Destiny game on Sunday, a Marvel Heroic Roleplaying game on Saturday, a Edge of the Empire game on Friday, and I'll soon be running a Legend of the Elements set in the A:TLA universe game on Tuesday. I can only run so much!
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Anybody happen to know offhand where a goon could get ahold of a bunch of relatively cheap post-apoc looking minis? I'm kicking around running a Fallout tabletop and would like some thematic figs for pushing around on the map.
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How about these? https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/project-z/ I'm fairly sure those are just Wargames Factory's plastic models repackaged. You might be able to find some in your LGS or ebay or somewhere for cheaper. Siivola fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Covok posted:For all the things people say about Gary Gygax, he was totally right that the OGL was a bad idea that'd result in a competitor stealing D&D from them. I honestly have no idea what Hasbro thought the upside of OGL would be.
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Lurdiak posted:I honestly have no idea what Hasbro thought the upside of OGL would be. I think they were trying to do the "DOTA is so successful that people start buying Warcraft 3 just to play DOTA" thing before it happened, but didn't really work out the exclusivity part.
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Lurdiak posted:I honestly have no idea what Hasbro thought the upside of OGL would be.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I think they were trying to do the "DOTA is so successful that people start buying Warcraft 3 just to play DOTA" thing before it happened, but didn't really work out the exclusivity part. That didn't work too well to Blizzard either
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Plutonis posted:That didn't work too well to Blizzard either The window between "nobody seriously plays WC3 ladder anymore, only DOTA", and "Valve has released DOTA 2" was small, but it existed. Which is more than I can say for whatever value that WOTC might have gotten from the OGL.
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Plutonis posted:That didn't work too well to Blizzard either Eh, I think it worked fine. It goosed the long tail on W3, and Blizz had no direct competitor to Dota 2 when it launched. The OGL is more akin to if modders used W3 to make Starcraft 2 and Warhammer Total War.
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Evil Mastermind posted:If I remember correctly, the idea was to offload the cost of making adventures (which were generally always losses) and supplements onto the fanbase. Bingo. By offloading the production of adventures and to supplements onto third parties, Wizards/Hasbro could just rake in the money from selling core rulebooks (which are always needed) without taking potential losses on adventures/supplements. It also poisoned the well for 4e, because when Wizards/Hasbro rightly decided that maaaaaaaybe they shouldn't make the license so vague that you could drive a truck through it (aka, you basically allow a competitor to create their own version of D&D which is how we wound up with Pathfinder) everybody got pissed - and rightfully so, since Hasbro was so tight-fisted with the 4e ruleset/license they didn't allow anybody to actually see the rules (aside from playtesters) so they could create adventures/supplements before 4e got released.
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I found an interview with Dancey, and found the other reason: to wipe out other RPGs.quote:We make more revenue and more profit from our core rulebooks than any other part of our product lines. In a sense, every other RPG product we sell other than the core rulebooks is a giant, self-financing marketing program to drive sales of those core books. At an extreme view, you could say that the core >book< of the PHB is the focus of all this activity, and in fact, the PHB is the #1 best selling, and most profitable RPG product Wizards of the Coast makes year in and year out.
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Playing devil's advocate, part of the propaganda for D20 was that there were too many publishers with mediocre in-house systems which they'd created just for the sake of having one. And that was absolutely true. In 2000 there were way too many house systems that all superficially resembled Storyteller/Shadowrun--even when the core mechanic was different, the character sheets looked alike.
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Evil Mastermind posted:I found an interview with Dancey, and found the other reason: to wipe out other RPGs. quote:The other great effect of Open Gaming should be a rapid, constant improvement in the quality of the rules. With lots of people able to work on them in public, problems with math, with ease of use, of variance from standard forms, etc. should all be improved over time. The great thing about Open Gaming is that it is interactive -- someone figures out a way to make something work better, and everyone who uses that part of the rules is free to incorporate it into their products. Including us. So D&D as a game should benefit from the shared development of all the people who work on the Open Gaming derivative of D&D. 
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