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coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext
I drew a landscape for once!



I think the grass came out okay (which is to say, it does resemble grass) but I definitely made a huge mess of the cliffs. eta: and i just noticed the layers on the castle got shuffled when I saved ... such is life.

Otherwise I've just been doodling people to practise. The angles in it are all wrong but attempts were made.

coolusername fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Jul 17, 2017

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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Throw some more cross contour lines in there to help keep the angles correct and make the perspective easier to gronk

OmanyteJackson
Mar 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
working on two pieces back to back, any feedback or critique?




deathbot posted:


Otherwise I've just been doodling people to practise. The angles in it are all wrong but attempts were made.



I see you breaking down the figure into planes and that is excellent. Your going in the right direction, maybe try to exaggerate the angles more instead of playing it safe and see what happens

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007

OmanyteJackson posted:

working on two pieces back to back, any feedback or critique?



Something about the legs in both of them seems off to me. The raised foreshortened leg in the second one isn't totally convincing, and also her foot on that leg looks tiny compared to the other leg.

Turns out that working full time with a newborn in the house doesn't lead to much personal drawing time, but I'm slowly carving some time out for myself again. Maybe one day this drawing will be finished.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana
I love those colors man.

In related news I'm back on my bullshit:



Neon Noodle fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jul 24, 2017

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Neon Noodle posted:

I love those colors man.

In related news I'm back on my bullshit:




I love these, they feel so cozy :allears:

coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext

OmanyteJackson posted:

working on two pieces back to back, any feedback or critique?




I see you breaking down the figure into planes and that is excellent. Your going in the right direction, maybe try to exaggerate the angles more instead of playing it safe and see what happens

I tried to twist her so she was more facing the viewer and twisted a bit (the box layer is my very bottom layer, the next one up is what the pink one looks like). For the most part, using boxes helps me try and get my head around angles, buuut I'm having problems with not knowing how to draw breasts on figures from angles. At all. They come out looking like sad off-angled balloons. Any tips?



And my giraffe Elezen headshot sketch. I've been working more on just very basic flat stuff so that I stop hiding all my mistakes behind rendering and get a more stable approach.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

If you're going from a reference, just draw what you see, as many times as it takes. Also, that's why it's usual to learn from nude reference for learning bodies, since you can see + draw the body structures directly.

And yeah, breaking down to simple values is a very good thing to do.

e: typo

a hole-y ghost fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jul 29, 2017

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


You're underestimating how low the camera is in that image. It's much more extreme than what your sketches suggest.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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Whoops I bought an iPad, still haven't gotten good at it but Procreate seems cool

OmanyteJackson
Mar 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
So I'm finishing up an old piece. Working on the background now but I'm not too confident about the colors. Any suggestions?

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

OmanyteJackson posted:

So I'm finishing up an old piece. Working on the background now but I'm not too confident about the colors. Any suggestions?


I think the colors are fine but if I were you I'd check your values and push toward a more contrasting lighting scheme. As it is now, the figure doesn't stand out from the background enough and the silhouette doesn't read.

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

OmanyteJackson posted:

So I'm finishing up an old piece. Working on the background now but I'm not too confident about the colors. Any suggestions?


On top of what Neonnoodle said, I'd go for more cool tones in the background. The whole picture is very warm and although you've got a bit of blue-fade to the background, the grey rubble "reads" as a yellowish tone to me, and so does the purple of the background. All this brings the background "closer" to the foreground. I'd try straight up adding a semi-opaque layer of cold light blue on top of the entire background and see where that gets you. Or go super-dark, whatever works.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I can't figure out how to edit pics in the crappy imgur mobile app so here's some more giant Procreate doodles

coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext


I've been trying to increase my art practise output this month! One thing a day, even if the thing is just a box. Here's a summary of this week's "Stuff that isn't just a box." Will I ever learn how to integrate backgrounds?? no. the answer is no.

For comparison, here's the same beach monster girl from July last year.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
This one is finally "finished"

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


hey quick question


what the gently caress is wrong with widow's spine

deathbot posted:



I've been trying to increase my art practise output this month! One thing a day, even if the thing is just a box. Here's a summary of this week's "Stuff that isn't just a box." Will I ever learn how to integrate backgrounds?? no. the answer is no.

For comparison, here's the same beach monster girl from July last year.

looking good! I'd say just work on defining things a little more- it seems like you're losing the edges of your shapes. the one with the girl in the clouds is the best one out of the lot, imo, because you've done a great job defining her shapes and she reads clearly.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
probably a lot. I get mixed feedback about it.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe

Elsa posted:

This one is finally "finished"


What happened to the calves on the girl on the right?

Also I thought you were done posting pornos in here.

coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext
I don't think that's particularly porno, but there is one really, really big thing I noticed: Widow's arm (the one that she has extended) is way too long. I copied the pose and my hand hit midthigh max, but it looks like her hand (if the fingers weren't slightly curled) goes right to the back of her knee.

Sk8ers4Christ
Mar 10, 2008

Lord, I ask you to watch over me as I pop an ollie off this 50-foot ramp. If I fail, I'll be seeing you.
Does anyone here remember Legacy of Kain? Anyway here's a fan art for it.



Screenshot of the game was one of my references. http://imgur.com/Rmj9Oml

Critiques?


Neon Noodle posted:

On that note, here's a really good tutorial about digital painting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzCGP6kUvLU

This is an excellent video. I was wondering why my digital stuff looked so monotonous.

Dreadwroth
Dec 12, 2009

by R. Guyovich
Ok let's try that again....

Dreadwroth fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Aug 10, 2017

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Thanks for the feedback, those are some good points and I more or less agree with them

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

crosspost from dog thread in GBS.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

a hole-y ghost posted:

crosspost from dog thread in GBS.


please continue to render this

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

I might. maybe it should be a diptych with the back side too.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

a hole-y ghost posted:

I might. maybe it should be a diptych with the back side too.

I just think it's tied together well and would like to see more of it.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Yeah, I probably will end up continuing it, since it's bothering me how low detail the face is compared to the ring.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Thanks, pajama boner guy :)

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

a hole-y ghost posted:

Thanks, pajama boner guy :)

the wha-

:argh:

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Elsa posted:

the wha-

:argh:
sorry, the pajama boner incident is forever entered into this thread's lore at this point :mmmhmm:

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Jake Snake posted:




Critiques?

I commend you on your taste in games and can't help noticing that went with the paler, Blood Omen 2 kind of look for the skin and the face (I approve). Having said that, all the surfaces sorta read the same. There's not much variation in texture or lighting between the skin, the metal and the cloth underneath. I'd leave the cloth and skin as they are, but make the light hitting the metal torso bits a lot harder. Don't smoothe it all out, let there be harsh edged highlights on it to show a bit of polish, like you've got on the edge details.

I'm refraining from writing an essay on how much I loved the entire series and why it needs to continue, like, right now.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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Still iPad still clueless

Sk8ers4Christ
Mar 10, 2008

Lord, I ask you to watch over me as I pop an ollie off this 50-foot ramp. If I fail, I'll be seeing you.

Sharpest Crayon posted:

I commend you on your taste in games and can't help noticing that went with the paler, Blood Omen 2 kind of look for the skin and the face (I approve). Having said that, all the surfaces sorta read the same. There's not much variation in texture or lighting between the skin, the metal and the cloth underneath. I'd leave the cloth and skin as they are, but make the light hitting the metal torso bits a lot harder. Don't smoothe it all out, let there be harsh edged highlights on it to show a bit of polish, like you've got on the edge details.

Thanks! :) I had BO2 Kain in mind, but I didn't want to go full gothy emo steampunk, so I tried to find a happy medium between that and balding ps1 Kain (I think taking it easy on the eyeliner helped). I see what you mean about the texture and lighting, and I think those were the things bothering me the most about this piece (and my digital art in general). In the early stages they usually look great, but by the time I decide I'm "finished," everything just kind of falls flat and looks boring.

Sharpest Crayon posted:

I'm refraining from writing an essay on how much I loved the entire series and why it needs to continue, like, right now.

Holy poo poo, do I ever feel your pain. I've been making my way through the series again, and I'm dreading the moment I get to the end of Defiance only to realize that it's been 14 years and there's no hope (for a sequel).

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
So not 100% sure this is kosher, since it's my partner's art, not mine. Worst case I'll buy her an account here.

Anyways this is her latest digital piece, which she's actually selling in a gallery next month. Still, good feedback is hard to come by, both when it comes to the artistic merits as well as pricing.

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


That's really lovely- my advice would just be to really define the edges of things that need defined- I know that's not great advice on its own, but mainly I mean things like the fingers, which kinda blend into the arm. there's also very harsh black shadows under them, which doesn't really fit what she's going for imo. Tell her to try tinting her shadows next time- brown/red shadows for warm shadows, blue/purple/green shadows for cooler shadows. It'll lend a lot more realism to her shadows.

Other than that, I really like how she's done the skin and hair- they look really nice.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Sociopastry posted:

That's really lovely- my advice would just be to really define the edges of things that need defined- I know that's not great advice on its own, but mainly I mean things like the fingers, which kinda blend into the arm. there's also very harsh black shadows under them, which doesn't really fit what she's going for imo. Tell her to try tinting her shadows next time- brown/red shadows for warm shadows, blue/purple/green shadows for cooler shadows. It'll lend a lot more realism to her shadows.

Other than that, I really like how she's done the skin and hair- they look really nice.

I passed along the advice! She definitely agrees with the fingers comments, that's something she tried to avoid when touching it up without making the borders too stark. Similarly, the tinted shadows is also a really interesting idea. She doesn't like it for this particular piece, mainly because the model is in direct bright light, but it's absolutely useful advice in general.

She says thanks, that balancing light and shadow is a bitch but that's what value studies are before.

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

The quality of the paper (or cloth if you're getting it printed on canvas - there's real canvas and plastic, with differing textures), the quality of the print, the final size and how many prints you're gonna take, whether she signs them or not are all things you should consider when pricing the pieces. I hope this will be a smaller print rather than larger - it looks great as a small pic with the way the lighting is balanced, but some details are a bit rough when you look close up.

I'd bring out the subtle colourfade to dark in the background out a bit more, personally. If asked to nitpick, I'd mention that the mouth is not quite in the right perspective, it's facing the viewer more than the jawline and hairline suggest, and the smaller eye should come up juuuuust a tad. Ask her to flip the image horizontally if she has trouble seeing these. I'd also either blend away the sketchy lines or outline them stronger and more confident, especially in the ear and the hand (and the hand does need more work anyway, like Socio said), they seem wispy and uncertain, which works great in the hair and eyebrow, but less so where they're supposed to define the whole form.

I also like the colourchanges on the skin - they're blended so delicately.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


It looks like an underpainting to me, a few passes away from being finished. Like you can still see the hint of the drawing in the hands and on the face, and areas like the underside of the arm looks like the value has been decided on but it needs more saturation.

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sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Went back and worked on an old sketch again.

I sometimes wonder how much 2d concept work is necessary before just jumping into 3d. Like... am I just reworking the 2d stuff when I know I should be spending time just doing it right in 3d?



When does prototyping become procrastinating?

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