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So, I thought this fight was dumb as hell at first. I just rewatched, and like it a lot more. You can tell that Arya isn't blocking or catching Brienne's swings--she's parrying them to the side. The only time she blocks one full force, the sword flies out of her hand. I don't know anything about swordfighting, but I know from boxing that parrying can move power punches aside while blocking is more likely to get ya hurt. Same basic principles seem to apply--she uses slips, parries, and head movement to get inside on Brienne's longer reach. Edit: There's one other time Arya blocks Brienne flush, and that's what throws her off balance enough to get kicked by Brienne. I thought this scene was so silly at first, but aside from Arya's stupid lil' jump it's a nice piece of choreography. Cyber Dog fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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kiimo posted:is this it? I was wondering what the bitch fest would be about this week. I think it's more residual dislike of Arya's past two seasons. Arya and the faceless men are both awesome but the plot sucked and we never saw her actually learn to switch faces or fight, she just suddenly could. This scene was especially jarring cuz it's just like straight waterdancing, we never even got shown if or how the assassins train at fighting. They're sneaky poisoners, not fencers. Arya goes from trainee at both to swordmaster assassin god offscreen. OTOH we finally have the Arya we've been waiting six years for
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tooterfish posted:Nah, he's too stupid. Davos would've drawn butterflies and palm trees and shown Missandei.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:05
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Y'all please read this stupid reddit link instead of arguing about swords more. https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/6s5zz1/everything_some_quick_insight_on_aryas_fighting/
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Aug 8, 2017 21:05
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Honestly I think the most unrealistic thing that has been bothering me about this series is that the tower where Cersei and Jaime were loving conveniently had footholds all over it for Bran to climb on
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Aug 8, 2017 21:12
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twistedmentat posted:I actually wonder if Maisie Williams actually did the funky breakdance get up move. I think that's her hobby in real life.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:12
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Lycus posted:Davos would've drawn butterflies and palm trees and shown Missandei. That's why the Children of the Forest part is at knee height, and the White Walkers are at eye level...
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Aug 8, 2017 21:13
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i thought the arya brienne sword fight was cool as heck
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Aug 8, 2017 21:14
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fridge corn posted:i thought the arya brienne sword fight was cool as heck It managed to cut through my need for realism in sword fights and went right into "this is cool and fun" territory.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:14
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Cyber Dog posted:So, I thought this fight was dumb as hell at first. I just rewatched, and like it a lot more. You can tell that Arya isn't blocking or catching Brienne's swings--she's parrying them to the side. The only time she blocks one full force, the sword flies out of her hand. I don't know anything about swordfighting, but I know from boxing that parrying can move power punches aside while blocking is more likely to get ya hurt. Same basic principles seem to apply--she uses slips, parries, and head movement to get inside on Brienne's longer reach. Yeah, like I said you have to nitpick to even find anything wrong with it. Overall a good scene, especially with Sansa and Littlefinger's reactions cut in, that was well done. whalestory posted:Honestly I think the most unrealistic thing that has been bothering me about this series is that the tower where Cersei and Jaime were loving conveniently had footholds all over it for Bran to climb on Eh, old fashioned stone and mortar construction would make it way more reasonable than modern buildings. And we are told that he's always climbing places he shouldn't so its not crazy that he could get up there, especially since he lives there. He could have climbed up there before, maybe even dug little hand holds or something.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:15
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So, is Davos Jon's hand now?
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Y'all please read this stupid reddit link instead of arguing about swords more. quote:Her footwork could be a bit better here and throughout Told you. Like we said, its mostly good. But if I were to nitpick, her footwork is slow and or non-existent when it should be the primary focus of her fighting style. She should have moved much more, but almost nobody expects that and audiences want to see sword on sword clangs so hey whatever. Don't think just because we're discussing it means we're all  about it. Not all show discussion is argument or criticism. I think everybody in this thread is mostly positive to completely positive on that scene. You don't really need to go "Hey nerds stop arguing and check out this reddit post"
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Aug 8, 2017 21:16
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bunnyofdoom posted:So, is Davos Jon's hand now? More like chief advisor.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:17
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My favorite part of the episode was when they talked about grain supplies and travel times.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:18
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bunnyofdoom posted:So, is Davos Jon's hand now? Kings in the North always seem like they're more willing to get their hands dirty and know the ins and outs of issues so they might not need a hand like the lazy or insane Kings of Westeros or the extremely dumb Queen Danerys.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:19
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This is what happens when you let a woman be the Mother of Dragons.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:21
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Not only did Jon make the drawing, he did it because when he came back to life he actually came back as a new kind of White Walker that's trying to trick Dany into bringing her Dragons over the wall so they can be claimed by the Night's King.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:21
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Ah, sad to learn again once again the tactics are sub par.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:21
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Constant posted:I picture it more like this What is this dogshit link
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Aug 8, 2017 21:24
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Raxivace posted:Not only did Jon make the drawing, he did it because when he came back to life he actually came back as a new kind of White Walker that's trying to trick Dany into bringing her Dragons over the wall so they can be claimed by the Night's King. That is such a Vince Russo swerve that I would unironically be excited to see it.
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The fallout would be unreal
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Aug 8, 2017 21:32
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You idiot spergs arguing about the Arya/Brienne scene are the worst. Please also complain about the teleportation some more as well.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:45
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The cave paintings were unrealistic because real cave paintings are full of dick drawings
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Aug 8, 2017 21:49
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Is Tarly Dad alive? I can't see him dying anywhere on screen but I feel like Dickon's going to be the bigger character moving forward since they bothered to recast and introduce him again. I guess we'll find out. Also, on a rewatch you actually get to see Tarly soldiers with bowman sigils and all, for like 2 seconds in the whole episode. I love the season but I think ten episodes and more scenes to set up the stakes for each of the four battles we've had would have been great. I always figured Tarly had Reach soldiers in tow and that's how Highgarden fell so easily frex but all they really give us to support that is a two-second shot.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:50
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There`s been a lot of joking about Jon doing the paintings himself, but how did Children of the Forest paintings end up on dragon glass?
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Aug 8, 2017 21:52
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:You idiot spergs arguing about the Arya/Brienne scene are the worst. Please also complain about the teleportation some more as well. The energies released in the Euron teleportation scene would destroy Casterly Rock and the entire region much less the Targaryen fleet.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:52
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how did Arya get from the Riverlands to the North in one episode when it took her a whole season to get from the Riverlands to the Vale
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Aug 8, 2017 21:57
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Because the Hound slowed her down, he stopped at every KFC on the way.
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Cyber Dog posted:So, I thought this fight was dumb as hell at first. I just rewatched, and like it a lot more. You can tell that Arya isn't blocking or catching Brienne's swings--she's parrying them to the side. The only time she blocks one full force, the sword flies out of her hand. I don't know anything about swordfighting, but I know from boxing that parrying can move power punches aside while blocking is more likely to get ya hurt. Same basic principles seem to apply--she uses slips, parries, and head movement to get inside on Brienne's longer reach. Not just water dancing, you can catch a few quick bits here and there of Arya thrusting for the vital points exactly like the Hound showed her.
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They referenced the Lascaux cave paintings in the discussion. Can you imagine if the cave paintings looked this fresh  That looks like it was drawn five minutes ago but it was drawn 20,000 loving years ago.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:how did Arya get from the Riverlands to the North in one episode when it took her a whole season to get from the Riverlands to the Vale Time per episode isn't consistent and doesn't need to be, so that makes no sense. All time is relative. The only issue is if in the time it takes Arya to get to the North Euron manages to circumnavigate the ---- hm 
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kiimo posted:They referenced the Lascaux cave paintings in the discussion. Speaking of cave drawlings  Hmmmm
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Arya was staright up trained by the master of the Vintersorg fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Aug 8, 2017 22:22
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kiimo posted:They referenced the Lascaux cave paintings in the discussion.
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zoux posted:Speaking of cave drawlings always the artists
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Vintersorg posted:Arya was staright up trained by the master of the How much can you really learn when your training consists of getting beat with a stick?
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some guy on the bus posted:How much can you really learn when your training consists of getting beat with a stick? Here is a reminder that her training montage includes her stick fighting as a blind person. So presumably with sight she would be able to not get her rear end kicked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBue47iGonM And that she is not completely useless against someone who was trained by Jaqen H'Gar during her development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1KGyHQrfls JaySB fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Aug 8, 2017 22:43
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Perestroika posted:There are a couple of things that would be a meaningful innovation above what they knew: Given Scorpions got used a whole lot in real life (along with Carroballistas and stuff) as smaller scale siege weaponry, the fact the Lannisters only had one in a secret drop-away card was kind of a surprise. Like a later-day Roman army could have probably fielded a few dozen of the things, and they weren't exactly dealing with dragons, rather easily.
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Vintersorg posted:Arya was staright up trained by the master of the He killed like 5 guys tops. If that's what the Lannisters consider a regiment.. zoux posted:Speaking of cave drawlings Now THAT is a cool catch.
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some guy on the bus posted:How much can you really learn when your training consists of getting beat with a stick? Seems to work very well in any number of martial arts movies?
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