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Atlas Hugged posted:I blame GW for ruining like 2 generations of game designers. Didn't cmon used to be way into gw anyway? Not surprising they would cop their lovely rear end rules & design from time to time.
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Super 3 posted:Anyone here play test or get any impressions of the CMON GOT up now? I didn't see much commentary except someone mentioning it was 'lovely' but not much context. I will offer lovely with no context also.
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Hauki posted:Didn't cmon used to be way into gw anyway? Not surprising they would cop their lovely rear end rules & design from time to time. CMON used to be the place to display all your GW stuff, which is why when I got really into boardgaming and minis again these past couple years, I was really surprised their role changed from just an imageboard to a supplier. Super 3 posted:Anyone here play test or get any impressions of the CMON GOT up now? I didn't see much commentary except someone mentioning it was 'lovely' but not much context. It's Runewars minis but much, much worse. It looks to have the same mechanics of "squaring up" (in RW or KOW), has something about initiative that may be similar, and it has magic powers reskinned as off-map politics. If the initiative stuff isn't variable like it is with runewars, then it's just straight up an inferior version of kings of war instead.
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Thanks for the comments, I was drawn in by the plastic mans.
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I'm pondering Who Goes There? because I'm a huge sucker for The Thing. The trouble is, the KS is doing that thing where there's a bunch of tiers with different add-ons meaning you have to spend a large amount to get all the different parts. 
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Aug 7, 2017 20:39
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Why does it cost $40 to add 4 new playable characters? Like I'm fairly certain you can buy BSG and one or two of its expansions for the cost of the "full" game?
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Aug 7, 2017 20:54
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Bombadilillo posted:Literal Roll and Move in a strategic miniatures game Sword and the Flame is the granddaddy of colonial wargaming and it has roll and move for charges. Of course, that actually works with their card-based activation system. In sad KS news, the 3rd edition of Web & Starship is now officially closed due to the death of the project lead. Refunds were issued though, so not a total loss (other than poor Stephen Wieck).
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Aug 7, 2017 21:03
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The_Doctor posted:I'm pondering Who Goes There? because I'm a huge sucker for The Thing. The trouble is, the KS is doing that thing where there's a bunch of tiers with different add-ons meaning you have to spend a large amount to get all the different parts. This project does nearly everything people hate about board game kickstarters and yet it has still made $500k
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Aug 7, 2017 21:04
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Deceptive Thinker posted:This project does nearly everything people hate about board game kickstarters and yet it has still made $500k Frustrating, isn't it?
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Aug 7, 2017 21:09
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Deceptive Thinker posted:This project does nearly everything people hate about board game kickstarters and yet it has still made $500k The game looks just bad. But I am still tempted because its an awesome theme for a hidden roll game. And there are some cool ideas in there. Its just bloated and purposely gimped unless you spend a poo poo load and a 2 hour game always comes down to a diceroll with modifiers. Yet people encourage that behavior.
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Aug 7, 2017 21:12
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If anything I would just use the GoT miniatures to play Kings of War, but even then I'm not exactly blown away by the sculpts.
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Aug 8, 2017 01:31
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Instead of backing Who Goes There just print your own copy of The Thing .
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Aug 8, 2017 07:10
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I was considering Who Goes There until I scrolled down and saw that it has zero female player characters. I guess I'll just keep my luxury money to myself then.
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Aug 8, 2017 12:51
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HazCat posted:I was considering Who Goes There until I scrolled down and saw that it has zero female player characters. I guess I'll just keep my luxury money to myself then. To be fair, the original story has zero female characters. John Carpenter's The Thing is one of the best movies ever made and the only female character is Adrienne Barbeau voicing a chess computer.
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Aug 8, 2017 13:20
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Jedit posted:To be fair, the original story has zero female characters. John Carpenter's The Thing is one of the best movies ever made and the only female character is Adrienne Barbeau voicing a chess computer. To be fair, it's 2017, and 'no girls' is not what anyone normal thinks of when making a list of 'things that are awesome about The Thing franchise'. I can guarantee you there's plenty of stuff they haven't kept true to the original book, and their decision to keep the sexism is enough for me to decide I don't want to purchase their product.
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Aug 8, 2017 13:53
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HazCat posted:To be fair, it's 2017, and 'no girls' is not what anyone normal thinks of when making a list of 'things that are awesome about The Thing franchise'. In a board game, sure, but there are actually good thematic reasons for the film to have an all-male cast. In the same way a movie featuring only women in a horror situation would have a different kind of thematic meaning, having all men in the thing produces a different kind of meeting. A board game of course might as well have representation.
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Aug 8, 2017 14:49
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The FAQ posted:AN ALL MALE CAST??? WHY NO LADIES?!?! 
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Aug 8, 2017 15:10
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The Thing prequel had women in it.
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Aug 8, 2017 15:11
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Serf posted:The Thing prequel had women in it. The original crew in the book also has 37 people, and only 16 of them are named characters. I'm not saying they need to change anything, I'm just saying the lack of women is absolutely the main reason I'm not buying it. I wouldn't watch a modern movie adaptation of the book with no female characters in it either 
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Atlas Hugged posted:If anything I would just use the GoT miniatures to play Kings of War, but even then I'm not exactly blown away by the sculpts. That's what I'm planning to do with rising sun. The game looks like a weird mash of Senji and Cyclades and will probably be mediocre at best, like blood rage.
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Aug 8, 2017 15:26
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You know what really helps your case? Getting this complaint and going 'no actually it was not just an oversight, THIS IS MY INTENDED VISION, gently caress OFF'
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Aug 8, 2017 15:30
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HazCat posted:The original crew in the book also has 37 people, and only 16 of them are named characters. I don't care if there are no women, but it better have a better narrative reason then. "I didn't want it, and I've done girl games before so I karmicly get to" FFXV, boys on a coming of age road trip, I can get behind that. Only men being gruff enough to survive this harsh environment. Dumb. Edit: Actually, If he just said "That's my vision for the game" Whatever, you do you. People can not buy it if they don't want. Its the "I did a girl thing before so now I get to do this" that rubs me the wrong way. Bombadilillo fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Yea it'd be dumb but 'meh, this is what I wanted' is at least an answer. 'I did a girl game now it's a boy game' is the dumbest answer.
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Aug 8, 2017 18:21
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These are the girls he designed for his girl game. He is very proud of them.
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Aug 8, 2017 18:37
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sexpig by night posted:'I did a girl game now it's a boy game' is the dumbest answer. In fairness, I think his answer was actually "I did a game where the source material was all female and didn't change one to male, now I'm doing one where the source material is all male and I'm not changing one to female. This is consistency." That falls apart, however, since as HazCat pointed out there's 21 unnamed characters who easily could've been used to get some representation into the game. Edit: This isn't even going into the disparate need for male vs female representation in media in general.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:23
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HazCat posted:These are the girls he designed for his girl game. The one on the right's a pretty cool design.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:43
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the one on the left is pedo bondage
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Aug 8, 2017 23:34
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Falstaff posted:The one on the right's a pretty cool design. Yea not gonna lie 'magician who's focus is a weird glowing lamp' is one of my favorite hardly used aesthetics.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:42
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I don't understand why more people don't go for the A side B side character cards where the A side is a woman and the B side a dude. Seems relatively cheap to do (get some alt art).
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Cthulhu Dreams posted:I don't understand why more people don't go for the A side B side character cards where the A side is a woman and the B side a dude. Seems relatively cheap to do (get some alt art). I mean maybe that's an improvement but it's still forcing players to make a binary gender choice
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Leperflesh posted:I mean maybe that's an improvement but it's still forcing players to make a binary gender choice uhh whats to keep you from flipping it midgame?
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Leperflesh posted:I mean maybe that's an improvement but it's still forcing players to make a binary gender choice Yeah but...there are only two genders? You canīt really expand beyond binary unless you wanna go into fantasy territory. Which I mean, sure, itīs "The Thing The Game", go for it, I guess?
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oh god please no please don't do this everyone just let it go
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Mr.Misfit posted:Yeah but...there are only two genders? You canīt really expand beyond binary unless you wanna go into fantasy territory. Here, let Teen Vogue teach you a little bit about gender. (Also, speaking as a nonbinary person, I am super happy to be a fantasy hero if and only if I get caster levels out of it.)
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Mr.Misfit posted:Yeah but...there are only two genders? You canīt really expand beyond binary unless you wanna go into fantasy territory. Which I mean, sure, itīs "The Thing The Game", go for it, I guess? You're thinking of sexes. Sex and gender aren't the same thing. (And technically, there aren't two of those either, depending on how you classify individuals with intersex characteristics.) Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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I think it's more that this is more of an unlicensed "The Thing" boardgame than actually based on the book.
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Lemon-Lime posted:You're thinking of sexes. There are two sexes.... or are there??
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The baby was fine — but follow-up tests had revealed something astonishing about the mother. Her body was built of cells from two individuals, probably from twin embryos that had merged in her own mother's womb. And there was more. Every piece of the baby is an individual organism with its own survival instinct. One by one, MacReady tests everyone's blood with a heated piece of copper wire. Everyone is still human except the baby, whose blood flees from the hot wire. Exposed, she transforms and infects Windows, forcing MacReady to burn them both.
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inklesspen posted:Here, let Teen Vogue teach you a little bit about gender. Honey, in fantasy territory, you can get whatever you want. Also, that sounds interesting, if a bit like something of a social fad. Lemon-Lime posted:You're thinking of sexes. Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Ahhh. I see. Learn something new every day, I suppose.
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