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Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

oohhboy posted:

Man of Taichi was a weird as hell pro China movie that ends in a Ki attack and a villian whose final words are equally weird. It even promotes poor behaviour as a virtue in China. The fights are pretty terrible as they are overly choreographed, go on for way too long and the protagonist almost never take any damage of any kind.

Don't watch it even ironically as it is just a bad movie.

this is a wrong opinion. the weirdness is worth it

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oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Wiggles Von Huggins posted:

this is a wrong opinion. the weirdness is worth it



Yes and no. There isn't enough weird to sit through the movie. A super cut yes.

It is extra baffling as Kenau directed himself . Thankfully unlike a lot of other director/actors he has knowledges he sucks at directing. The half aborted cop story is a massive chunk of evidence this movie when wrong.

:agreed: Him screaming is good stuff.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Fojar38 posted:

how does this compare to ip man in terms of nationalist trash

probably worse because iirc when it came time for ip man to fight an american he was fought to a standstill

IP man is 99.999% made-up bullshit. It makes U-571 seem like thoroughly reviewed academic journals in its accuracy. Kung Fu has never been anything but a niche circus act. Whenever you hear about a Kung Fu master it's always his ability to do something really oddball. Like balancing on thumbs, grabbing things really quickly, or some sort of endurance feat (holding something at arms length, balancing, etc.). Almost never anything that actually translates into fighting like they would like you to believe. Whenever you do see some "Kung Fu" master fight, it usually ends up with them being hilariously beaten in under a minute, they are just doing a choreographed fight, or fighting a literal nobody who has also been paid to take a dive. Also if you do see a Kung Fu guy win a seemingly legit fight, he's not actually using it, just punching and kicking like every other MMA fighter.

Also Bruce Lee was an actor, not the world's most lethal person.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Blistex posted:

Also Bruce Lee was an actor, not the world's most lethal person.

True, but he was also in insanely good shape and had a well rounded background in Eastern and Western martial arts, such as boxing and fencing. His choreography also included elements of Judo, so he at least knew that existed and that it was effective. So lumping him in with other Kung Fu masters is a bit erroneous. His Jeet Kun Do style was supposed to be a more practical version of a traditional martial art and there have been some successful MMA guys to come out of those schools.

plumpy hole lever
Aug 8, 2003

♥ Anime is real ♥

Atlas Hugged posted:

True, but he was also in insanely good shape and had a well rounded background in Eastern and Western martial arts, such as boxing and fencing. His choreography also included elements of Judo, so he at least knew that existed and that it was effective. So lumping him in with other Kung Fu masters is a bit erroneous. His Jeet Kun Do style was supposed to be a more practical version of a traditional martial art and there have been some successful MMA guys to come out of those schools.

:goonsay:

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Atlas Hugged posted:

True, but he was also in insanely good shape and had a well rounded background in Eastern and Western martial arts, such as boxing and fencing. His choreography also included elements of Judo, so he at least knew that existed and that it was effective. So lumping him in with other Kung Fu masters is a bit erroneous. His Jeet Kun Do style was supposed to be a more practical version of a traditional martial art and there have been some successful MMA guys to come out of those schools.
Also, I heard from a friend that he knew how to hit people in a special spot so they instantly died!

Dr.Radical
Apr 3, 2011
Yep. And that's how the triads killed him. Sent an assassin to kill him with the Touch of Death

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
I'm a Triad. AMA

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Dr.Radical posted:

Yep. And that's how the triads killed him. Sent an assassin to kill him with the Touch of Death

Bruce Lees death had nothing to do with triads. He Michael jacksoned his way off. took a prescription drug from someone who shouldn't have given it to him and had iirc heart failure in a celebrity swank pad

simplefish fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Aug 9, 2017

Budohead
Feb 13, 2011

Head Case
The amount of salt that comes oozing out of internet warriors every time Lee's name comes up is pretty strange considering he spent half his life de-mystifying styles and secret technique hocus pocus and popularizing a practical mentality with a strong emphasis on physical conditioning that basically played precursor to the MMA poo poo that's all the rage these days.

(It was a painkiller -> allergic reaction -> edema combo what done him in)

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Budohead posted:

The amount of salt that comes oozing out of internet warriors every time Lee's name comes up is pretty strange considering he spent half his life de-mystifying styles and secret technique hocus pocus and popularizing a practical mentality with a strong emphasis on physical conditioning that basically played precursor to the MMA poo poo that's all the rage these days.

he used a bunch of western and japanese martial arts which contributes to the salt especially since western and japanese stuff tends to actually have practical use that chinese stuff doesn't

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

simplefish posted:

Bruce Lees death had nothing to do with triads. He Michael jacksoned his way off. took a prescription drug from someone who shouldn't have given it to him and had iirc heart failure in a celebrity swank pad
Yeah right. That's just what THEY want you to believe. And it was the Yakuza not the Triads.

Budohead
Feb 13, 2011

Head Case
I should have been more clear I meant specifically the phenomenon I've seen several times over where a bunch of goons burst into a thread huffing and puffing and tripping over each other to inform anyone who will listen about how much Bruce Lee totally sucked rear end and how a mediocre MMA fighter could totally whoop him.

Like the idea is to dispel all those nasty myths and legends while ignoring the fact that those got made up by nerds after he died anyway and that the guy himself, for the time especially, actually held mostly reasonable and realistic viewpoints.

e: Like he greatly admired Muhammad Ali and openly admitted he wouldn't have stood a loving chance against him, not exactly the MO of a chinar kung fu master

Budohead fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Aug 9, 2017

Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer
Bruce Lee was pretty good, and did some cool stuff, but he didn't exaggerate his talent, that was all other people.

He could probably kick some serious rear end, but his modesty of "yeah I couldn't beat that professional fighter at his peak" is that realism and demystification mentioned earlier.


Which begs the question, did Bruce Lee belong to "Good China", regular China, or America in terms of "he's our people"?

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
He was a Taoist, although I'unno how devout or whether he was into that horseshit mysticism that came when after the Dao De Ching was published.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Mistle posted:

Which begs the question, did Bruce Lee belong to "Good China", regular China, or America in terms of "he's our people"?

He was a Hong Kong-American and held dual citizenship and died during the Mao era in the PRC where he probably would've been executed by the state for appearing in movies.

Budohead
Feb 13, 2011

Head Case

Mistle posted:

Which begs the question, did Bruce Lee belong to "Good China", regular China, or America in terms of "he's our people"?

Quarter German, born in the US, raised in HK, so absolutely not a true Chinese in their eyes.

Until he got super famous -- now appears in child form at the end of Chinese propaganda films

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I saw a video of him lighting matches in the air with a pair of nunchucks with strikers on the ends, that was pretty neat.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
I saw a video of him playing ping pong with nunchucks.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
I saw a video of guys playing ping pong with they dicks.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!

67 and still making love posted:

Watched the first one a few days back as per thread's recommendation, some top-grade inferiority complex on show.
"You think your crack squad of commandoes can just walk into our country during a training exercise? Well let's see how all 7 of you deal with our entire loving army." Also there's a secret bioweapon engineered to wipe out all (Han) Chinese. Oh and in the final showdown our hero Faces down a bunch of 'Nam-era Vietcong, who cower before his shouting "What now, what now huh?" while backed up by 3 attack helicopters.
i've heard of their victim culture before, and now i wonder how the hell is hollywood going to appeal to this bizarre cultural aspect

http://i.imgur.com/MgNmief.mp4

Relin fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Aug 9, 2017

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Budohead posted:

I should have been more clear I meant specifically the phenomenon I've seen several times over where a bunch of goons burst into a thread huffing and puffing and tripping over each other to inform anyone who will listen about how much Bruce Lee totally sucked rear end and how a mediocre MMA fighter could totally whoop him.

Like the idea is to dispel all those nasty myths and legends while ignoring the fact that those got made up by nerds after he died anyway and that the guy himself, for the time especially, actually held mostly reasonable and realistic viewpoints.

e: Like he greatly admired Muhammad Ali and openly admitted he wouldn't have stood a loving chance against him, not exactly the MO of a chinar kung fu master

This is all I was saying. There's nothing mystic about him. He believed in hard work, a broad education, and doing a million crunches and situps every day. Plus he was realistic about his own abilities. That's a decent legacy in my opinion.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Fojar38 posted:

he used a bunch of western and japanese martial arts which contributes to the salt especially since western and japanese stuff tends to actually have practical use that chinese stuff doesn't

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

fdjkbnadjnbkjldaf
Mar 2, 2016
Last time I looked at economic growth of China they're still at like 7%. Only a matter of time until they surpass the United States. I don't know why people like Fojar are denying the inevitability of China.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/chinese-boy-pees-on-elevator-control-circuit-ends-with-boy-hospitalized-with-grave-injury.553287/

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

Hello

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
Karate owns and kyokushin is a legit and particularly brutal combat sport

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Didn't see the twist coming.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

Judo and Aikido are p good, although a little limited in scope.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
Most places:
Person 1: "LOL, look at his/her face, he/she looks like a pig. Seriously. They look like a farm animal. Look at the fat round pig!"
Person 2: "How could you say something like that? That is so horrible. My God, you're such a rude person!!!"

China:
Person 1: "LOL, look at his/her face, he/she looks like a pig. Seriously. They look like a farm animal. Look at the fat round pig!"
Person 2: "Heh, you're right, he/she does look like a pig. What a big pig! Hahaha."

Pees in the elevator, eh? Raises himself while his dad is working, eh?
Ehhhhh?

EDIT: What is that forum about?

Haier fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Aug 9, 2017

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
All this talk about NK bombing Guam, and people regurgitating the "China doesn't want a million refugees across their borders."

Like, China has enough men to just stand there and hold hands so nobody gets in. They also don't care to shoot them. What's the big deal? I don't see how this refugee thing is even an issue for China.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Atlas Hugged posted:

This is all I was saying. There's nothing mystic about him. He believed in hard work, a broad education, and doing a million crunches and situps every day. Plus he was realistic about his own abilities. That's a decent legacy in my opinion.

"Ololololoooo China, it's all poo poo", is the thread's reflex.

In the 50s HK had a pretty active bareknuckle scene, people did that as a pasttime. Dimissing everything out of hand because it has something to do with china or chinese people is loving stupid.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

JaucheCharly posted:

"Ololololoooo China, it's all poo poo", is the thread's reflex.

In the 50s HK had a pretty active bareknuckle scene, people did that as a pasttime. Dimissing everything out of hand because it has something to do with china or chinese people is loving stupid.

:thunk:

plumpy hole lever
Aug 8, 2003

♥ Anime is real ♥
I saw a ping pong show

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
乒乓乒乓🏓️

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Trump is too much of a pussu to start anything with NK anyway.

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

https://m.slashdot.org/story/329747

Chinese chabudao HTTPS certificates no longer accepted, took long enough...

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Haier posted:

All this talk about NK bombing Guam, and people regurgitating the "China doesn't want a million refugees across their borders."

Like, China has enough men to just stand there and hold hands so nobody gets in. They also don't care to shoot them. What's the big deal? I don't see how this refugee thing is even an issue for China.
I think blurry cellphone footage of at 1420 kilometer long line of PLA soldiers gunning down millions of North Korean peasants would even give the CCP a bit of a headache.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

plumpy hole lever posted:

I saw a ping pong show

Are those real?

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Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Relin posted:

i've heard of their victim culture before, and now i wonder how the hell is hollywood going to appeal to this bizarre cultural aspect

Laughable threats to a much more powerful country and re-fighting the Vietnam war where you get to win? I don't think Hollywood is gonna break a sweat.


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