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Logano was a pen stroke away from going back to NXS with a limited Cup schedule. Byron will probably use that as a lesson if things don't go well at HMS.daslog posted:Danica on the way out seems more likely. She's improved a bit recently but it might all end because of a lack of sponsorship.  e- Junyernomics: quote:“It took awhile, but when we had our major reset (financially) — the trickle-down effect is coming through the drivers’ contracts and making a big difference into the decisions these owners are making. You can’t pay a driver $5 to $8 million a year if you ain’t got but $10 million a year in sponsorship. You can’t. That ain’t gonna work. (Owners) aren’t getting $20, $30, $40 million a year on sponsorship. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Von Manstein and LAST CAR felt some feelings today, I'm sure: http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/20282291/derrike-cope-drive-own-throwback-darlington-mane-n-tail
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Boomer The Cannon posted:Von Manstein and LAST CAR felt some feelings today, I'm sure: I certainly did!
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In case you'd forgotten, here's another reminder William Byron is a living, breathing EA NASCAR career mode who went from Legends to Cup in six years.
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CBJSprague24 posted:In case you'd forgotten, here's another reminder William Byron is a living, breathing EA NASCAR career mode who went from Legends to Cup in six years. Did Liberty bankroll him the whole way?
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CBJSprague24 posted:In case you'd forgotten, here's another reminder William Byron is a living, breathing EA NASCAR career mode who went from Legends to Cup in six years. I think it's to early for him
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The worst part is all the stories that are now going to go up about how he was just a bright eyed dreamer who played iRacing and hoped that one day his rich dad would pay for him to race for real.iospace posted:Did Liberty bankroll him the whole way? Yep, from another article on Vice last year. quote:For a year, Byron’s parents paid for him to race. Byron picked up a sponsor in Liberty University after a meeting with the school’s chancellor, Jerry Falwell Jr.
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Cool, a new driver to hate.
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I'm just going to cheer Bubba Wallace jr.
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wicka posted:Cool, a new driver to hate. It's not possible for me to hate him more than I did Joey "Potential Greatest NASCAR Driver In History According to Shannon Spake Despite Having Run Two Busch Races" Logano and the hype train that surrounded him at the same point in their careers.
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CBJSprague24 posted:It's not possible for me to hate him more than I did Joey "Potential Greatest NASCAR Driver In History According to Shannon Spake Despite Having Run Two Busch Races" Logano and the hype train that surrounded him at the same point in their careers. I think around 2008 I started noticing praise for him and they were trying to market him as NASCAR's "savior". I then looked up he was a rich kid from ct* and then just kinda went...uh...okay. *Hindsight? It's perfectly fine being a rich kid (See Tim Richmond) or from the Northeast (the bodines), but the problem I was seeing on the horizon was a lack of new southern stars from a predominantly southern sport at the time. To an extent? That's improved though.
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Norns posted:I'm just going to cheer Bubba Wallace jr.
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The problem is, if you don't shove them into Cup as quickly as possible, some other team might snatch them up. It's better to continue their driver development at the top tier than wait until they're "ready." iirc, SHR wanted Larson, but he got taken by Ganassi. Erik Jones and Suarez got pulled into Cup pretty fast too. That's the new standard now (though Suarez was kind of a unique situation).
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why does NASCAR even bother with Xfinity if the young drivers go to cup right away lmao get rid of xfinity
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Xfinity should become a series for old folks, like the PGA Champion's Tour. Get all the drivers that are still popular but not good enough to compete at the top level anymore and have them go at it for 200-300 miles.
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Shots fired: https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNASCAR/status/895316175562735618
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Cool, a new driver to hate.
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He has a point. I mean, when else in the history of NASCAR has there been a driver who's won "most popular" for nearly 2 decades straight who didn't have a huge pile of championships and wins? Surely not during any period when NASCAR was seeing any sort of significant growth.
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The first person that breaks Harvick's face will be my favorite driver ever.
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Slickdrac posted:He has a point. I mean, when else in the history of NASCAR has there been a driver who's won "most popular" for nearly 2 decades straight who didn't have a huge pile of championships and wins? Surely not during any period when NASCAR was seeing any sort of significant growth. I don't see how this possibly has anything to do with stunting NASCAR's growth, though.
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Brian France has hosed it all up so loving bad that there's really no legitimate argument anyone can make for any other individual being at fault.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I think around 2008 I started noticing praise for him and they were trying to market him as NASCAR's "savior". I didn't care about that, I was just tired of racing media telling me "You REALLY need to like this driver!" after already hearing it for three years during Danicamania. Slickdrac posted:He has a point. I mean, when else in the history of NASCAR has there been a driver who's won "most popular" for nearly 2 decades straight who didn't have a huge pile of championships and wins? Surely not during any period when NASCAR was seeing any sort of significant growth. He had the resume before, but Bill Elliott was repeated Most Popular Driver during what turned out to be a seven year winless streak. Unless Harvick's point was the continued dumbing down of expectations in exchange for fandom, which would be further supported by Danica being in the top 3-4 in the same vote having done next to nothing at all in racing. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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wicka posted:I don't see how this possibly has anything to do with stunting NASCAR's growth, though. My thought (and I have no evidence to back this up) is that when the popular guy is winning that creates some hype that NASCAR lacks. In the NBA finals, it was "DURANT vs LEBRON" that was big.
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wicka posted:I don't see how this possibly has anything to do with stunting NASCAR's growth, though.  sportsgenius86 posted:Brian France has hosed it all up so loving bad that there's really no legitimate argument anyone can make for any other individual being at fault. :theproblem:
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https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/895344136697647109 Car #25 please, Maury. Ask Rick for one of the HMS fonts.
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Why? Kahne's the most worthless driver on that team. Counting down until Front Row Motorsports announces their newest driver.
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Spence and Kahne on a GMS Hendrick satellite seems pretty likely at this point
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Anyone else hear that the 77 is done?
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L_Harrison posted:Why? Kahne's the most worthless driver on that team. Kahne has a year to go on his contract so Hendrick is honoring it this way. Wonder if Rick is going to say take the 25 number just so he doesn't have to deal with the 25 curse anymore.
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So, out of curiosity, I looked at track diversity. Seven of the tracks are 1.5 mile tri/quad ovals. This is out of 23 different tracks throughout the cup series. 
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NASCAR: Save the teams money by making them spend more money! https://twitter.com/NASCAR_XFINITY/status/895359897956732928 BMB5150 posted:Kahne has a year to go on his contract so Hendrick is honoring it this way. Wonder if Rick is going to say take the 25 number just so he doesn't have to deal with the 25 curse anymore. I would strongly consider buying some Allegiant #25 merch even if it were Kasey Kahne stuff. I like that number and don't know why and would be cool dropping  if it were supporting GMS.
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Slickdrac posted:He has a point. I mean, when else in the history of NASCAR has there been a driver who's won "most popular" for nearly 2 decades straight who didn't have a huge pile of championships and wins? Surely not during any period when NASCAR was seeing any sort of significant growth. Bill Elliott was Most Popular Driver for 15 years despite winning only 1 title.
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Hell Dale Sr was most popular of the year in 2001 and he didn't win jack poo poo!
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