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FourLeaf posted:I truly thought we would get through 4 years without a war at the beginning of this year but things escalated so quickly ever since I've given up on that hope. I'm wondering how it's going to go. There's no way it won't be incredibly unpopular once it immediately becomes a mess, even if it's the best case scenario and we just roll over their military and no nukes are fired on either side. Like do Republicans try and pretend it's totally awesome or do they just change the subject and run out of the room when people ask what their stance on it is? Iraq had a lot of support initially since it was presented as us saving the world while the country was drunk on 9/11 anger/self pity and that invasion went about as well as it could but we are still there sixteen years later. There's no way we can occupy Iraq and North Korea at the same time, especially when our leadership is fantastically incompetent. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Aug 11, 2017 |
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it's a sad state when your president is more unhinged than the hereditary tyrant of the hermit kingdom.
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Aug 11, 2017 13:30
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Vermin Supreme would have won.
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I feel like there is overly many news stories about how calm guam is. Like someone sent out a memo telling everyone to talk about how calm guam is.
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Sneakster posted:I've noticed a recurring pattern of older conservative dudes idealizing the idea of trying to come off as crazy like a fox to leverage negotiating power. I wouldn't be surprised if this is scoring points with people with that kind of mentality despite* this all being unfathomably stupid. It's because of Reagan. He was unhinged enough to scare the Soviets (or so the myth goes) but not so crazy as to actually start WW3. And well, you know how conservatives idolize Reagan they worship anyone that even slightly reminds them of him.
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FourLeaf posted:https://twitter.com/graham_euan/status/895981809372086273 If Trump starts a war with NK, it's not going to be well thought out. He's not going to have the military prepare months in advance for an invasion. Either he is going to (try to) declare war outright on Twitter, or he is going to commit an act of war by launching short-range missiles at NK mainland with a single ship or, god forbid, deploy icbms. In either case, very few will know about it beforehand.
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I mean it's just posturing hopefully but would you put it past this administration to just have forgotten about setting poo poo up
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Prediction: Trump declares war on NK via Tweet without alerting the military first. NK levels much of SK before the military can react.
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FourLeaf posted:https://twitter.com/graham_euan/status/895981809372086273 He used the third biggest bomb ever used in combat in the history of the human race on syria then did nothing much else ever again and everyone loved that, his plan is to do that again on north korea.
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If we pooled our resources what would it cost to have Fox produce a video of North Korea blowing up that they could then show Trump on a special closed-circuit version of Fox & Friends?
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:He used the third biggest bomb ever used in combat in the history of the human race on syria then did nothing much else ever again and everyone loved that, his plan is to do that again on north korea. The MOAB was dropped in Afghanistan, but that doesn't invalidate the rest of your post.
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St. Dogbert posted:Prediction: Trump declares war on NK via Tweet without alerting the military first. NK levels much of SK before the military can react. Unified Korea is going to make the weirdest videogames. And what the gently caress is a Dniester? 
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Aug 11, 2017 13:54
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I've got so many more tweets locked and loaded, ready to go Un has never been so owned in his life You've never seen ownage like this. believe me.
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Dejawesp posted:
A river in Ukraine and Moldova. Relevant in part because the "Trans-Dniester" region of Moldova (a little sliver of the country that's on the opposite bank from the bulk of Moldova) has been under Russian occupation since the 90s.
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Aug 11, 2017 13:58
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I wonder what lame nickname he has ready for Un.
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I have faith that our president probably doesn't know how to use keys. Edit: Also, hey Asian-Americans, who ready to be the hot new racism? Ralepozozaxe fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Aug 11, 2017 |
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Aug 11, 2017 13:59
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If this blows over I advice you all to visit Seoul some day. It is such a fantastic place, vibrant, friendly, and simultaneously modern and traditional. A lot of people who think they would like to go see Japan probably would do well to go see South Korea instead. Really hope this is just the stupid bluster it sort of looks like.
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https://twitter.com/GlennThrush/status/895971923066269696 https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/895987938831589377 Charliegrs posted:It's because of Reagan. He was unhinged enough to scare the Soviets (or so the myth goes) but not so crazy as to actually start WW3. And well, you know how conservatives idolize Reagan they worship anyone that even slightly reminds them of him. For most of them, they idolize Reagan the same way that they follow Christ. It's a cultural touchstone they've projected all sorts of beliefs onto even when they'd be appalled by the reality of what he said and did.
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https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/895981907133030400 Is there a chin rubbing gif that eventually turns into a nuclear explosion?
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/895981907133030400 i think nuclear winter will push my oil stocks higher! 
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Radish posted:I wonder what lame nickname he has ready for Un. I was very partial to "King Jon" from a few pages ago
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Paracaidas posted:For most of them, they idolize Reagan the same way that they follow Christ. I liked how Jesus busted up all those unions though
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Radish posted:I wonder what lame nickname he has ready for Un. Lil' Kim
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Radish posted:I'm wondering how it's going to go. There's no way it won't be incredibly unpopular once it immediately becomes a mess, even if it's the best case scenario and we just roll over their military and no nukes are fired on either side. Like do Republicans try and pretend it's totally awesome or do they just change the subject and run out of the room when people ask what their stance on it is? A North Korea conflict would play out completely differently from an Iraq one mainly in that it would be far more horrific and lead to far more destruction than what citizens of 1st world countries have become accustomed to.Even if no nukes are fired on either side, North Korea still has the capability to launch all of those artillery and cannons they have targeted on Seoul and release biological and chemical gases, thereby killing at least 100,000+ Koreans and quite a few foreigners + American soldiers. Unlike previous wars, this carnage would for sure be captured on video in real-time as people broadcast their deaths, and that footage would be spread online and in the news for the world to see. And that's the rather optimistic scenario in which NK doesn't launch any ballistic missiles on Tokyo, Guam, or the US mainland. How it plays out politically would be contingent on many factors that are difficult to predict right now, particularly who is the aggressor - which is not always clear-cut in many escalations of hostilities - but the sheer, unavoidable brutality of a war with North Korea mean I don't think thinking about it through an Iraqi War lenses is particularly useful.
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Could the Republicans start loving up tax reform already so as to distract this idiot from NK? Go back to tweeting about Mitch, Donny.
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Charliegrs posted:It's because of Reagan. He was unhinged enough to scare the Soviets (or so the myth goes) but not so crazy as to actually start WW3. And well, you know how conservatives idolize Reagan they worship anyone that even slightly reminds them of him. What? No, that was literally a purposeful strategy used by Nixon and his advisers. Nixon attempted to appear more unhinged than he was. It predates Reagan.
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Condiv posted:i think nuclear winter will push my oil stocks higher! Sadly the new planet wide permanent winter night led to nationalization of all oil. Your stocks will be converted to war bonds.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:He used the third biggest bomb ever used in combat in the history of the human race on syria then did nothing much else ever again and everyone loved that, his plan is to do that again on north korea. The MOAB was used on Afghanistan, not Syria.
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Someone tell north korea that if they were to simply praise Trump's overwhelming electoral college victory he'd start talking about how great NK is and lift all the sanctions.
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/895981907133030400 The markets would disappear and we revert to a post-apocalyptic barter economy (if anyone is left). You don't really need to worry about how your portfolio looks like in a post thermo-nuclear devastated world.
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Radish posted:I'm wondering how it's going to go. There's no way it won't be incredibly unpopular once it immediately becomes a mess, even if it's the best case scenario and we just roll over their military and no nukes are fired on either side. Like do Republicans try and pretend it's totally awesome or do they just change the subject and run out of the room when people ask what their stance on it is? It's what they did with Iraq and the public has largely forgotten about it so why wouldn't they use that strategy again?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6GdmYqt6wQ Tremendous, bigly good.
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Condiv posted:i think nuclear winter will push my oil stocks higher! At least it fixes our climate change problem!!!!!!!!! 
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Rex-Goliath posted:It's what they did with Iraq and the public has largely forgotten about it so why wouldn't they use that strategy again? Maybe? People tend to not care too much about deaths in parts of the world that are are too different, but South Korea and Japan are both pretty well off and economically connected to the U.S., so they may remember how they couldn't get the new iPhone because the Korean parts company got flattened by artillery.
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Pollyanna posted:At least it fixes our climate change problem!!!!!!!!! First the liberals were whining about global warming, and now they're whining about radiation. When will they shut the hell up? 
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theflyingorc posted:What? No, that was literally a purposeful strategy used by Nixon and his advisers. Nixon attempted to appear more unhinged than he was. It predates Reagan. More unhinged than being held back by Kissinger on using nukes and dropping literally enough bombs to coat Vietnam in more than quarter inch of steel? (Note, that is the estimation of a general long before it ended)
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