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Eltoasto
Aug 26, 2002

We come spinning out of nothingness, scattering stars like dust.



Has Matt confirmed what he is going to do?

If it comes down to Jason vs. Elena, then Alex and Josh are going to push hard to evict Elena. Where would Maven and Kevin fall?

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.



Elena didn't even humor Alex and take a hot dog.
Alex: I asked her if I could dump it on her. They said no.

Now Alex is having a small breakdown as she packs up her gear and worries that as soon as she's done they're going to make her do it again. She eventually just starts muttering "Hot dogs... Hot dogs... Hot dogs..." Then she throws a fit and starts singing the Weiner Man song.



Alex: I am loving sweating. I think I may be dying.

Eltoasto posted:

Has Matt confirmed what he is going to do?

If it comes down to Jason vs. Elena, then Alex and Josh are going to push hard to evict Elena. Where would Maven and Kevin fall?

That wouldn't even be a question. If Elena were against Jason she'd go home 6-2 without anyone trying. Jason is Kevin's best friend and Maven do what Paul wants, want to go to F5 with Alex and Jason, and don't trust Marlena at ALL.

Matt has double confirmed he's taking Jason down... but the way this is going Alex might not want him to in a day and a half's time.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
This is a fun punishment. I'm digging it.

And just, :lol: at Christmas and Paul being strapped to each other in skydiving suits.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Mark: You see how people are playing this game. They don't know what they're doing.
Elena: Clearly. This is what made me realize how dumb our cast is.

Alex packs it up and IMMEDIATELY another bugle sound.

Josh: This is brutal. And the other one is glammed up like she's going to Outback?! This game is brutal! It creates enemies!
Paul: I think you're getting this game, Josh.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
You know I live for your updates and watching the feeds so I don't have to, but I'm bored tonight.

That bugle was great because it went off the very second Jason opened the sliding door for her.

edit: Elena looks so awkward and uncomfortable sitting on the hammock with Josh. It's almost like she's only there because she feels like she has to be.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Its a solid night to watch. Alex's thing is fun and she's somehow walking a line between being a good sport and being super salty about it. That's going to get worse with time and Elena seems determined to just rub it in her face and anti-game.

And Jason's thing is kind of fun right now and hasn't gotten annoying yet.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Elena: We're about to be Have Nots, dude.
Yeah, probably.

Alex: This is why everyone hates Americans. Because we waste food for sport.

Marlena have FINALLY clued in to join the rest of the house outside.

Kevin: Poor Alex ain't gonna take much more of this, is she?
Jason: No. But she doesn't have much choice.

Christmas calls Elena a spoiled brat for not even apologizing or showing sympathy to Alex. Paul doesn't say anything. He's going to have to do a lot of damage control for Elena this week and he can't even talk alone with her for 2 days.

Paul reassures with Raven that they're voting out Cody and they'll deal with Elena next week. Raven tells him how Elena's being a brat saying its Alex's fault. Paul again no sells it because he knows Elena is loving this up. Raven tells Paul that Elena is poking around that she's been "hearing things" and being coy about the state of the house. Paul downplays it as

Alex makes much better time with her second camp setup. Making the best of things by challenging herself to make good time.

Paul making the hard press with Christmas that no matter how much Elena pisses people off and acts bad but they just have to focus on taking advantage of their chance to take out Cody now when he's vulnerable. Christmas agrees. Raven comes in to say Elena's being a brat to Alex and point out that it was her idea to make a deal with Alex. Christmas says she's not showing them anything they didn't already know about Elena. Paul makes the same press. Gonna be a long week of this for Paul the way Elena's going.

Alex: Has not apologized. Doesn't even care.
Jason: Isn't going to.
Alex: I should have listened to Dominique. She said she's just here to get famous and she didn't care who she stepped on.

Alex shares to Cody and Jason that she hates liberals, the "tree loving hippies" and blames them for her soy hot dogs. Cody says that's why he likes them because they're the only ones who think that way in the house and does a little rant about soy being the most unhealthy thing you can eat. He says he likes to eat things that had mothers.

BB: EVEN WHEN JASON IS DOING NOTHING, HE'S STILL EXTREME!

Alex has been packed up for awhile so they're probably giving her a break. So I'm tapping out. There will be fun versions of Alex's punishment but it will be random. That's what Flashback is for.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Aug 13, 2017

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
I'm serious though, I don't think Elena's arms have been uncrossed for literally hours.

I also wish I'd never seen her before she had her face/lips done. I can't unsee the plastic poo poo and she just looks like a low-rent porn star to me.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

STAC Goat posted:

Alex shares to Cody and Jason that she hates liberals, the "tree loving hippies" and blames them for her soy hot dogs.

God Libertarians are insufferable. Doesn't she work in Renewable Energies or something?

Bloops Crusts
Aug 14, 2016
Who the gently caress are the people on Jokers who keep rating Jess and Cody so high?

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Bloops Crusts posted:

Who the gently caress are the people on Jokers who keep rating Jess and Cody so high?

If Cody has spewed a bunch of right wing nonsense on the feeds, And Cody and Jess are popular on site about the feeds, Then the people on that site must be _______.

I bring up what he says because he hasn't really said much else, beside whining about the house.

Eltoasto
Aug 26, 2002

We come spinning out of nothingness, scattering stars like dust.



Bloops Crusts posted:

Who the gently caress are the people on Jokers who keep rating Jess and Cody so high?

Alphas respecting other Alphas


Professor Shark posted:

God Libertarians are insufferable. Doesn't she work in Renewable Energies or something?

She's supposed to be a "Gamer girl" too and I haven't seen her ever talk about it. Maybe her profile is completely made up. Or maybe she lives with her parents, got a boob job on their money, "renewable energies" is a part time cashier job, and is of course a libertarian because everything has worked out!

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
Well, I have known people (male and female) who have described themselves as gamers because they owned an Xbox, played Call of Duty (or popular game X) regularly, and had nostalgic memories of playing video games as a kid. It's not exactly a measurable thing and it is the sort of thing that happens with a lot of well known subcultures (gamers, geeks, punks, goths, etc.) Ramses seemed to bring up dorky stuff more often, but Alex could just be burying that part of her since she can see no one else in the house would give a poo poo or get it.

As for Libertarian crap, she's young enough to get a half pass. Hopefully she'd grow out of it. But then again, I don't know how far down that rabbit hole she is.

Eltoasto
Aug 26, 2002

We come spinning out of nothingness, scattering stars like dust.



It's hard to say, a lot of it could just be saying what she knows Cody and Jason want to hear. There's no money to be made in being an open liberal in a house full of white people that includes at least 2 trumpers. And they also don't know what's been going on, their awareness of the world ended when they got sequestered weeks before the game started.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Eltoasto posted:

It's hard to say, a lot of it could just be saying what she knows Cody and Jason want to hear. There's no money to be made in being an open liberal in a house full of white people that includes at least 2 trumpers. And they also don't know what's been going on, their awareness of the world ended when they got sequestered weeks before the game started.

I was thinking that too. She could be gaming hard by pandering to their sensibilities, or she could just be reaching out and seeking connections for the sake of not going crazy in the house. It would be more telling if she was talking like that to people who were known to not think that way, but I honestly don't know who in the house that would be at this point.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Alex probably has dumb ideas but she really doesn't seem to wear them on her sleeve or scream them or anything. A lot of people call themselves libertarians at that age. I was a registered independent at that age and had all kinds of SouthParkesque ideas of how both sides were wrong and bad. Kids are dumb.

I didnt include that to mock her politics, I thought the soy part and Cody's weird stuff was funny. I wouldn't even know Alex's politics if it wasn't for that conversation and the one clip on the show. Same with Jason.

Honestly, I did a bad job describing that. Alex wasn't ranting. The three of them randomly brought up some song they played that made a joke at the expense of Republicans and Democrats and they joked about it. Then Alex made an aside about hating liberals and within 30 seconds Cody was ranting about soy. Jason didn't even say anything. I described that really poorly and I'm sorry.

As for her gamer cred, I've heard her mention video games a few times in relation to like POV strategy or something. I kind of think "gamer purity" is a weird thing. Alex could be a casual gamer or a hardcore one who is adjusted enough not to be randomly talking about it when no one cares. It doesn't strike me as super important either way.

The Jokers/Jody thing remains about Paul. They don't care that Cody's a bigot and Jessica's a mean girl. They don't care if they're bullies or assholes. For a ton of feedsters the only thing that matters is that they're against Paul and they deflect all criticism to that mob scene a few weeks ago. This isn't changing. If Elena and Mark keep talking about targeting Paul they'll suddenly become super popular. If Josh randomly decided to go after Pail he'd become popular.

BB fans are obsessive crazies.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Aug 13, 2017

Turbl
Nov 8, 2007


Alex has talked about what games she plays with Paul before. I don't remember which ones exactly other than BioShock but there were a few. Questioning gamer cred is loving dumb though. If she plays video games she can say she's a gamer. She probably just doesn't talk about it much in the house because as far as I know no one else seems interested in it.

The bios of the people BB does usually aren't that accurate anyways. It seems like they make them play up one hobby or ideology that differentiates them. Like with Bronte and being a math "genius" and Dan being ultra-catholic. Wasn't Rachel played up to be a hot girl nerd too because she had a chemistry degree? None of them really talked about that poo poo much in the actual house.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
I wasn't trying to make a statement on gamer cred, more pointing out that people tend to label themselves as being part of groups to make themselves seem more interesting than they are. And for adults who like to discuss things they are interested in, it can be annoying, which I learned personally since I had a habit of describing myself as a fan of various sports growing up, when in reality I merely "liked" those sports and barely watched them. People oversell their interests all the time and it isn't a good or mature thing to do. That's a general statement, not a condemnation of Alex or casual gamers or whoever else.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I remember back to Vanessa and how she was a DJ but you never really heard much about that in general because it wasn't something she like wore as a badge or forced everything into. But every once and awhile she'd sit down with Steve and just nerd out about audio engineering or something. Or she'd sit down with Austin and nerd out about philosophy or poker. She was a "geek" about that stuff but she could compartmentalize it when people didn't care.

Ramses on the flip side was kind of socially awkward and couldn't really connect with people with other interests and kind of forced his niche interests on people. Alex could well be a "gamer" and just doesn't talk about it much because none of the HGs sans maybe Paul will really connect with her on those terms and she's well rounded enough to connect with them on other interests. Or maybe she's a casual gamer who just elevates her hobby and doesn't realize the gamer community has purity tests.

I think that gets to Toasty's point too, though. I can call myself a "gamer" or "religious" or a "football fan" or whatever but there's people who are much more religious, or bigger gamers, or more serious football fans who would probably look their nose down at me as not being up to snuff. Ultimately its all a conflict of how you see yourself vs how others see you.

Eltoasto
Aug 26, 2002

We come spinning out of nothingness, scattering stars like dust.



Less a purity test and more questioning BB production and their desire to fill demographics for the cast. I mean they marketed Cameron as not being terrible at everything.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I feel very bad for Cameron because even though I'm pretty sure I would have hated him if he hadn't gotten screwed I still think he got screwed because he was (a) not good at balancing on a trapeze pole, (b) not great at shooting nerf balls out of a cannon, and (c) made a bad first impression.

Which, in fairness, that last one kind of matters a little. But still, it was a tough deal over a first impression.

I probably would have hated Glenn too but he got screwed a little too. Jody too, but I have no idea what I would have thought of her.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
I feel like quick boots don't work very well for a show like this. With the feeds, you potentially have he opportunity to know contestants in a way that you wouldn't on other shows, so quick boots who are gone before the feeds are even up kind of seems like the viewers are sort of getting short changed out of content.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

The viewers but also the HGs. BB is a game about relationships and by doing a Day 1 eviction you make it all about comps and first impressions. It should be about whether Cameron could make the relationships necessary to keep him in the game, not that he was kind of a weirdo who didn't immediately connect with people within hours of meeting them.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
That's an extremely good point. BB should be a show where you can be a competition dud but still win the game, and first day evictions just turn it into Survivor.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

I think they should get rid of the survivor first boots too. If you make it onto a reality show like BB or Survivor you should be guaranteed at least a week even if it means an extra double boot down the line or that your airtime is edited down if you arent interesting.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Yeah, I don't like Survivor 1st Boots either but at least with Survivor that's a more condensed comp based game anyway so its a less of a distortion from the idea of the game. In Survivor the first boot is someone who had the bad luck of having bad impressions over 3 days with the team that lost a comp. So cutting that to 1 day or something sucks but is still in the same ballpark. But In BB the first evictee has 2 weeks to build relationships that could save them come the first live eviction night. Cutting that down to 1 day just changes the game entirely for that person.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Alex got woken up just after 4 AM. Then again around 10:30.

Have Nots. Alex (in her "PETTY" hat) gives a big speech that she made a promise to Elena that she wouldn't make her a Have Not on her Birthday and her promises mean more to her than money so she won't be a Have Not. She wishes Elena a happy birthday. Then she takes the "PETTY" hat off and puts her camp hat on and announces that the Have Nots are the first 4 eliminated from the HOH. Kevin, Mark, Paul, and Jason. Which means Christmas is stuck sleeping on a Have Not bed tonight which they try out and its NOT very doable. Paul says he's going for the key.



Cody doesn't know where to sleep with the Have Nots room at full capacity.

Mark advises Elena to go talk to Alex and smooth things over. She asks "why?" Mark says for the same reason he always gives bullshit apologies to everyone even though he doesn't think he's ever done anything wrong. Elena doesn't wanna. Elena is entirely convinced that Alex has just gotten repeatedly lucky and she's playing a better game than her and owes her nothing. Elena doesn't get why she's the bad guy now. Mark complaining once again that no one speaks up against Alex and the tide. Elena says Alex's HOH is over so its weird people are "sucking her dick." Uh, Elena. Her HOH isn't over. And they like her in general. Mark whines more about how much the season and cast sucks. Now Mark's just trying to guilt Elena into sleeping in Have Nots with her like he did with her. She's not biting.

Marlena are basically just isolating themselves the way Jody did now and we have a concentrated MarlenaCam which somehow makes me miss JodyCam. Its the same pity party but instead of psychotic rants between uncomfortable PDA its Mark begging Elena for attention.

Mark keeps being the slightly better player and goes up to HOH to socialize with the rest of the house. He passes Cody alone in the kitchen and asks if he wants to come but Cody says he might go up later but for now he likes his silence.

And now its four feeds on Cody sitting by himself.

patonthebach
Aug 22, 2016

by R. Guyovich
I know I am super late to this stuff but man this season the production has been way too hands off with the interaction between the houseguests and really got uncomfortably close to harassment/bullying fast. The fight with Paul sending his pack of henchmen to yell at Jody in the main foyer was creepy and pretty embarrassing for everyone involved. Not to mention Josh's campaign with the pots and pans. Really immature stuff and I am surprised production didnt put a real ban on it.

Definitely changed my view of Paul as the ringleader, but also for Raven,etc being easily followers, and everyone else just being too scared to try and intervene.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

These are all old updates but I had them typed up and forgot to post them.

Matt and Raven complaining that BB lets Elena sleep all day. Matt warns Raven to be careful about bashing Elena around Cody. Matt complains about Mark's shameless rear end kissing and eating all the food in the house. Matt is eating... porridge? Clam chowder? Its really annoying to listen to. They note how angry Alex is at Elena and Matt says he's just going to sit aside and let it play out. I guess he's eating super, super milky slop? That's so gross.

The HOH crew talking about how Mark keeps complaining about being in the middle but he's been there all game and he keeps putting himself there.

Mark goes to Matt to complain there's no food. That's amusing. They talk about general game stuff. Matt laughs about Mark's relationship with Josh. Mark says he's proud of himself he didn't go off on Josh in the Christmas fight. Mark has no idea that Matt loved that fight and thinks Christmas and Josh destroyed him. Then Mark tells Matt that he's worried about all the singles and someone has to take them out. Lets see how long it takes for Matt to share that.

A clearer picture of the POV is coming into place.
- Alex and Elena were down to the finals and Elena asked Alex to promise not to give her a punishment. Alex agreed and said the same.
- Elena beat Alex. Alex chose #2 prize which was $5K. Elena chose the #1 prize which was the punishment.
- Elena took Alex's prize, breaking the deal.
- Elena justifies this as being Alex's fault because "everyone knows" the #2 prize is money and the #1 prize is a punishment so she had to know Elena would swap.
- Mark initially argued that Elena could have taken his prize to keep her deal. Elena eventually pushed back enough so he reworked his theory to Alex should have done that so its totally her fault and everyone is so stupid and doesn't know how to play Big Brother.

Josh declares that all the women in the cast are pretty besides Megan. Paul asks Josh who he'd take out on a date if he could. He says Elena even though he hates her personality. Kevin tells him that's because he doesn't know what he's doing and in a few years he'll realize why that's dumb. Then he goes on a rant.
Kevin: You're better off going on a date with loving me, Paul, or Jason. Trust me. That whole date she's going to be looking at herself in the mirror. Looking at another man. Not paying attention to you. Not caring about your stories.
Kevin apparently doesn't like Elena.

Matt debriefs with Raven about his talk with Mark. As usual they feel safe and are probably throwing HOH. Raven says she'd like Mark gone before Elena but thinks "the house" feels differently. Matt disagrees and says they can sell Mark as a comp threat. Matt's one question is Kevin but he didn't get the vibe Mark is working with him. Raven thinks he's been playing dumb and doesn't want him getting to the end. Raven says Elena made it sound like someone was leaking stuff to her (implying its Kevin, which it sorta is since Kevin was leaking to Jess who was telling Elena). Matt brings up getting rid of Christmas (eventually) and says he approached the issue with Paul and he blew it off, so they have to be careful. He says Josh won't be ok with that and Raven says they just get rid of Josh first after Mark, Elena, and maybe Kevin. Matt says the biggest decision they'll have to make is when to take out Jason/Alex. Maven feel like they're in control. Matt thinks Raven could beat anyone but Alex or Paul at the end, but Paul would give a speech giving it to her.

BB keeps telling Elena to wake up and Raven's pissed off and yelling at the cameras to actually go and get her or call her into "timeout". Raven complains that she needs to nap and they don't let her even though her illness. The HOH crew also complaining about Elena's rudeness, lack of respect for the rules and production, and general attitude. Then the HOH crew complain about Raven being rude too and talking over production directions. Josh said he'd call her out but then he might as well just be at war with half the house.

Mark tells Elena about his Matt talk. Mark says Matt said Marlena aren't their targets but he didn't know who he would target. Elena correctly interprets that as Matt's throwing HOH. Elena says she doesn't think they're targeting them but they're easily manipulated and go with the numbers. Mark says Matt is smarter than that and knows if they take out one showmance they'll go after the other next. Elena says they'd "do what the house wants." Mark says its not "the house" its 4 vs 6. Elena says its 4 vs 4 because "Christmas and Josh are flops." Elena wants to target Alex and Mark wants her to get over it and clear the air. Elena doesn't want to but might because she needs someone to do her nails. Elena grows tired of game talk and wants to go back to sleep. Mark says he needs Josh, Christmas, or Paul to go home next week. Elena's fine with Paul going but says he'll have the votes. Mark thinks if he puts Kevin up Alex, Jason, and Maven will vote Paul out (HA!). If next week wasn't a DE I'd be pulling for a Mark HOH and another comical self own blindside. Mark's rambling about how they have to make "the first move" to flip the house. Elena then rambles about how she needs to stay in the house as long as possible for her entertainment career. I think Elena is advocating floating still while Mark wants her to go for HOH? These two communicate badly and Elena seems checked out. Mark complains that Josh asked to sleep in Elena's bed.

Maven tell Paul about Mark targeting him and the other singles. Paul asks if he mentioned him by name and Matt says yes. Paul thanks them and dismisses them.

Mark again telling Elena that he has to target Paul unless Paul makes good with him before HOH about calling him out about being a hypocrite last week about defending Jody when they bullied Josh. He says he'll make a deal with Alex and Jason and can't get rid of Alex. Elena doesn't like that. Mark says she keeps her word and would keep a deal. Elena asks if he really thinks Alex wouldn't have taken the money from her if the role was reversed. Mark says she wouldn't have and would have taken his vacation. Elena says Alex is a good liar in Mobsters. Mark begs Elena to go clear up things with Alex because he thinks there's a lot of cracks in the house they can take advantage of. Elena whines about it. Mark asks if she thinks he really wants to make nice with Josh and rants about how if he wasn't in the house he'd put Josh through a wall.

Paul and Mark discuss Mark having to go next and them convincing Alex and Co to leave Elena around. Matt believes they can do it.

Bugle plays and Elena says its perfecting timing because she's hungry.

Paulmas telling Josh not to trust Jason and Kevin. Christmas saying Jason blatantly lied to her about voting to keep her. Josh noting how Kevin's been snappy with him lately and "attacking" him. General bitching about Mark and Elena. Paul's nervous if Jason will flip when they make that move but Josh says he's good and wouldn't go against Alex.

Alex setting up camp upstairs. Her tent's busted.



Alex is taking her hot dogs seriously now and has a frying pan with peppers and onions.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Turbl posted:

Alex has talked about what games she plays with Paul before. I don't remember which ones exactly other than BioShock but there were a few.

I think she took the wrong lessons from that game

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Turbl posted:

Alex has talked about what games she plays with Paul before. I don't remember which ones exactly other than BioShock but there were a few. Questioning gamer cred is loving dumb though. If she plays video games she can say she's a gamer. She probably just doesn't talk about it much in the house because as far as I know no one else seems interested in it.

The bios of the people BB does usually aren't that accurate anyways. It seems like they make them play up one hobby or ideology that differentiates them. Like with Bronte and being a math "genius" and Dan being ultra-catholic. Wasn't Rachel played up to be a hot girl nerd too because she had a chemistry degree? None of them really talked about that poo poo much in the actual house.

At some point during Alex's audition and casting process she probably said "well I play video games sometimes" and she got immediately cast as "The Gamer Girl"

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
A colleague of mine claims to be a gamer, but I have found that she hates any game that isn't called Skyrim.

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003


It's like when Christine was described as a nudist.

Muddy Burphy
Dec 4, 2010

The #RXT REVOLUTION has two words for ya..
SCOOP IT!

:frogc00l:

he knows...
Elena made it clear that she needs to stay in the house for the sake of her post-BB career, and honestly I hope she stays because it will be funny when she realizes that her visions of grandeur will just end up with her doing BB conventions and the like.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

In fairness Elena's delusions of fame are a little more grounded than most since shes a personality on a nationally syndicated radio program that apparently has a focus on reality TV.

But she's a terrible player and has behaved like a brat for weeks so the idea that any players should give a poo poo to help her get famous is laughable.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I'm pretty sure POV Ceremony happened, Matt took Jason down, and Cody's up.

But I haven't turned on the feed today and no one seems to be doing much from what I see on update sites. As far as I can tell Cody knows he's dead, everyone's content with that, and Elena's hiding out to try and salvage the fact that she can't turn off her "rear end in a top hat" mode.

Cody did make a pitch to Alex and Jason last night to try and get Raven up and them to unite and vote her out and then go after Paul. They played along but pointed out that they didn't actually have the POV or the votes to do that and then told everyone about it. Paul seems to want to call out Cody the way he did Dom but Alex and Jason didn't want him doing it so he hasn't yet (I think).

As far as I can tell Cody never did what you'd assume would be the obvious move and try to convince Matt to use the POV on himself.

As far as I can tell Elena hasn't tried to do damage control with Alex but Mark is trying to do it for her.

Also Kevin's game is sinking hard and fast and there's talk about taking him out before Mark and/or Elena. I assume they'll break that showmance up first, Jason/Alex/Josh/Christmas want to take a shot at Maven, and things could calm down with Kevin once Cody is gone, but he's in serious trouble right now.

Since Paul's not getting permission to call out Cody and expose Alex/Jason he seems like he's trying to work Elena up that Cody was throwing her under the bus and (I presume) hope she goes off on him.

Everyone's also getting worked up because Cody is telling people he has a kid and everyone (especially Jason, who is a father) thinks its a scummy, cynical game move.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Aug 15, 2017

Muddy Burphy
Dec 4, 2010

The #RXT REVOLUTION has two words for ya..
SCOOP IT!

:frogc00l:

he knows...

STAC Goat posted:

In fairness Elena's delusions of fame are a little more grounded than most since shes a personality on a nationally syndicated radio program that apparently has a focus on reality TV.

But she's a terrible player and has behaved like a brat for weeks so the idea that any players should give a poo poo to help her get famous is laughable.

I get the radio show she was on here. She was pretty much a call screener that got a little bit of airtime

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I don't get it but I assume that if she gets a little but of TV notoriety then that actually COULD give them a reason to give her more air time. Especially if they do reality TV stuff in which case she'd become a logical person to use for that stuff. Of course that assumes she's any good and they want her to get more airtime.

But I don't know the show or what she did so I'm only guessing. I'm just saying there's a little more logic to it than the usual "I'm going to get famous from Big Brother!" delusions. Elena's actually kinda got a plan and a foot in the door.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Ok, watching some feeds. Paul, Josh, and Jason working Elena up about Cody. Josh says Mark is standing by Cody and Jason tells her that he was claiming he had the votes to flip the house, implicating Mark and Elena as being with him. Paul warns that Cody will campaign against her as the week goes on. Josh pointing out that Cody was trying to bury people like Mark and Dom the last time he went out. Paul acting beleaguered that he's been attacked. Jason saying Cody's saying a lot of stuff about how he knows he has hundreds of thousands of fans and has a five year old kid. Jason seems convinced that's a lie and if it isn't he's a dick for lying about it for 60 days and then bringing her up when his game is on the line. Elena pretends she doesn't know. Jason doesn't know if its true or not, he just wants him gone.

Mark told Jason he wants to get Matt out this week instead of Cody or Elena. Jason told Matt. Matt is telling everyone. Matt can't believe that Mark would turn on him and talk about getting him out to Jason when 24 hours ago he was trying to get Matt to unite with him to take out Jason and the other singles. Matt tells Paul and Christmas that if Mark comes to them about voting him out they should just play along.

Mark was walking around outside with his rear end hanging out and put baby oil on it to tan it. Josh gives him poo poo and asks him why he needs his rear end tanned. Mark gets a little snipey and asks if he's the only one who takes his pants off to gently caress people. Everyone kind of snickers at Mark letting Josh get under his skin so easily.

There's a funny moment when Mark, Cody, Elena, and Kevin are outside and Paul/Christmas are downstairs while Alex, Jason, and Josh are at the campsite upstairs. And since Paul and Christmas can't get upstairs easily and Alex can't come down Paul just starts talking game by talking openly across floors.

It turns out Mark DIDN'T tell Jason to vote out Matt. Josh confused a story where Jason told Mark that Cody was trying to get out Matt. Matt and Paul decide to just pretend Mark's doing it anyway since it makes things easier. Matt wants someone to throw a hinky vote for him to frame Mark. Matt thinks Mark might do it anyway but Josh says he's too much of a "pussy" and will vote with the house. Paul says he wants to vote out Cody but gives Matt permission for the hinky vote if he's comfortable with it. Matt says he know he has Raven, Paul, Josh, and Christmas so he's good if Jason wants to throw a hinky vote. Paul and Josh then regale them about how they made Elena totally paranoid about Cody. Paul says Jason did his classic stuff adding stuff like "You're fine... probably" and "there will just be 1 or 2 votes... maybe 3. Who cares?"

Paul: The least comforting things always come out of Jason's mouth.

Everyone's in HOH besides Mark, Elena, Cody, and Kevin. Mark suggests Elena go upstairs and break it up but Elena doesn't feel like dealing with people. Mark mutters under his breath about it (he seems to be growing tired of having to clean up Elena's attitude). Mark doesn't go upstairs either.

Paul says he's going to draw a line with Mark and tell him to stay away from him for Mark campaigning against him all week. Christmas is super happy by that.

Christmas: He made it very clear where I stand with him the other day.
Paul: "I should have voted your rear end out."
Josh: That's when I got mad.
Christmas: You don't have that much power, honey boo boo.
Matt: He doesn't even control his own vote.

More complaining that Mark eats all the food but doesn't cook anything for anyone else or even clean up after himself. Mark took the Have Nots key today and got off Have Nots so they say today he ate a cartoon of eggs AND a whole batch of made slop. Paul reiterates that Cody threw Mark under the bus about him knowing about the backdoor. Josh wants to start up on Mark now. Christmas says its too early and Josh declares "its never too early too star." Matt is giddy over this. Paul thinks it might be good to sketch Elena out and try to get her to ditch Mark. Matt says to go after Mark with Cody in the room and get Mark trapped in his two side playing lies.

Christmas and Paul would like to see Matt confront Mark but know he won't. They complain about Kevin making such a big deal of not getting in on the Outback dinner and Elena going but not eating anything. Christmas claiming that she made a big show of not eating but then shoveled down ice cream when it was over.

Christmas is scheduled to get the cast off on next Tuesday and switch to a removable boot she can take off to shower. She thinks she might be able to walk on it and then 4-6 weeks before she can jog.

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Christmas, Paul, Alex, Matt, and Raven discussing that Elena has withdrawn and just stays in bed and doesn't talk to anyone. Paul says she's "pulling a Dominique." Matt says she can't deal with adversity. Christmas says she talks big but never gets involved when there's an actual confrontation or argument.

For some reason Matt has cut the sleeves off the one of his two t-shirts that had sleeves.

Apparently Mark stole everyone's pillows for the Have Nots room. Its hard to know if Mark is really this bad or if they're just getting worked up about him. He definitely does eat a ton and I saw him collecting pillows yesterday. But its always a little suspicious when a list of complaints emerge for the next target, especially with Paul involved. Paul claims that Mark admitted to taking his pillow after he got the key. Christmas saying when she was Have Nots Elena swiped all the pillows and left her with none because she couldn't rush to do it, and normally she'd "curbstomp a bitch." She complains about Elena taking her "foot pillow", which I do remember. Raven, Christmas, and Alex get worked up about Elena not eating and making a joke about not eating food. Alex lets slip a "You think an eating disorder is funny, oval office?" and then immediately regrets it.



Alex reclaims like 20 pillows and blankets from Mark's Have Nots bed and starts going OFF on Mark. Mark says "You gotta be kidding me" and "you were in HOH" and Alex is screaming at him that he should have asked. Mark tries to walk away and she follows him telling him that he acts like he owns the house and he's done it before.

After Mark leaves Jason, Josh, and Kevin all go to comfort Alex only to find she's fine.
Alex: End scene.
Jason: Did you stage that?
Alex: Yeah.
Jason: I thought you were mad.
Alex: Oh, I am.

Jason: God drat. My rear end in a top hat clamped together.

Kevin: I thought the guys were tough.
Jason: Hell no. I'm a loving pussy.
Alex: I told you I was bored.

Mark tells Elena that he's nauseous and doesn't know what to do anymore.

Mark joins Have Nots and Christmas asks if Mark took a pillow from her and Paul last night. Mark sheepishly admits he took them because he "had spikes up my rear end." Christmas and Alex saying that they did too and had two people there. Mark sheepishly apologizes for not asking. Christmas says its a constant theme within the house. Mark says he apologizes and Christmas says that doesn't make up for the fact that he's always taking food and stuff. Mark is kind of beaten down and just walks away.

Matt and Raven naturally avoided this and laughed about it before running away.

Mark's just sitting across from Elena staring in disbelief. Elena is either sleeping or ignoring him.

I haven't seen Cody at all today.

This drama is partly because Mark is off Have Nots and Christmas is getting unshackled from Paul today so the bed arrangements have to change again. Someone asks Josh where he's sleeping and he says Elena said she could sleep with him (she did). Mark says he's sleeping with her but he can join them. Josh is loving with Mark and saying he "called" it. Elena keeps playing dead even as they argue literally over her.

Everyone's basically torturing Mark for sport now.


Mark: Are you that desperate to get in bed with a girl?
Josh: Why don't you cuddle with Cody since you do anyway?
Mark: Maybe you should ask a girl to sleep with you instead of demanding to get in their bed.

Josh is getting genuinely worked up now.

Josh: You want to loving go with me? Because I'm tired of you're loving smart rear end. You want to go at me because I'll loving go. I told him I was sleeping there because I slept there last night and I'm not going to sleep with Cody. Nothing personal, I just don't want to seep with him. He's with him all day so why doesn't he sleep with the kid? Does that not make sense to all of us? Do we have to call a house meeting over a loving bed? He starts being the smart rear end he is and says "we'll see whose going to sleep here tonight." Yeah, we'll see because I'll make sure none of us sleep there because I'll put mustard on the whole loving bed. How about that?
Jason: THIS IS EXTREME! EXTREME ARGUING!


Matt and Raven are literally in tears over this (half away across the house away).

Now Alex saying that Mark ald the Cool Kids have slept in the Rose Room all season and she doesn't get why they can't rotate. She says Josh asked before Mark was off Have Nots.

Elena isn't playing ball and says she's not arguing over beds and she and Josh agree to give her bed to Josh, Elena will sleep with Christmas, and Mark will sleep with Cody. Mark is angry about this brings it to the house to see how they feel and to no surprise no one has a problem with that. Im not sure what Mark was hoping for there. Mark insisting he's sleeping in that bed one way or another. Josh brings the pillows back up and Mark apologizes for taking them but "in my head I was miserable." Alex goes off on him and asks why she came up to her room to ask for a pillow from HOH but didn't ask about taking her other stuff. Now Mark and Alex arguing over this was the first or second time Mark's taken her pillows because someone stripped her bed some past time but Mark says it wasn't him. I have no idea.

Mark: So those are your pillows?
Alex: Yes!
Mark: But that's not my bed?
Josh: Its the house's bed!

Mark is completely lost and asks if he's crazy and walks away. Josh keeps on him (calmly this time) trying to "resolve" the bed situation. Mark is exhausted and won't engage.

Josh: America, am I crazy?

This wasn't near as bad as the mob scene against Jody but it was a fairly similar setup in that everyone was genuinely mad because Mark had done something genuinely lovely (taking Christmas and Paul's pillow in the middle of the night), they got worked up about all the other stuff they were mad at him about, and then went at him with all of it at once with purpose.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Aug 15, 2017

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