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Calibanibal posted:no easy way t osay this: if you got kids, sit em down today and have a tough talk about that frog. you know the one Son, are you...well there's no easy way to say this so I will be blunt; are you on the Pepe?
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RuanGacho posted:If they lose their jobs every time they do it, that will end quickly. The relative distance to their nearest member? I would guess most Nazis are probably naturalized citizens of the US. Really that and skin color are the only two differences. Otherwise both are reprehensible extremist groups that we'd be better off without.
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screamin and creamin posted:Which he had held until yesterday? no but people were waiting for a horrible murder tragedy like this and knew trump would gently caress it up. he did it even worse then people thought.
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BadOptics posted:Son, are you...well there's no easy way to say this so I will be blunt; are you on the Pepe? jenkem is the gateway drug to going full /pol/
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Dr. VooDoo posted:I'm all for beating Nazis with large metal wrenches Why stop at wrenches?
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Aug 13, 2017 18:07
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Statement from the White House, but not Trump himself.. Now the right will say "see? He condemns the KKK!" https://twitter.com/tamarakeithNPR/status/896756014992719873 Edited to include correct link BigBallChunkyTime fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Aug 13, 2017 |
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:shot and chaser in one image lmao. "  I'm not for a hateful ideology that actively murdered millions, but if you keep calling me names then I just might join them! "
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Red Baron posted:The relative distance to their nearest member? Correct, so when I say "No Nazis, ever." I dont mean we enact laws, I mean we start the conversation with outlining that there are no substantial differences between these people who are suggesting harm to Americans, it is vitally important to shatter their narrative that those not like them are Not American. . When they come for them, they come for ALL Americans, all people of all locations. They will not be tolerated. There are some absolutes we can fully confidently embrace and champion, because we do not live in South Park. Thank you for your time Baron.
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Was there any more news about that helicopter that crashed? I remember people were talking about how it may have been caused by someone flying a drone into the rotors.
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Quorum posted:It's also an old person Facebook stand in for underlining or otherwise emphasizing.
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:shot and chaser in one image Someone posted this tweet chain earlier and the 'disaffected white man' later tells someone they have to leave the country because their avatar looks Jewish
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BadOptics posted:lmao. " Wait, why does this sound familiar? Like happened in this thread familiar?
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Supercar Gautier posted:Any useful moral calculus has to consider the interplay of real-world cause and effect to be worth a drat. For instance, fighting to give nazis a venue to exercise their free speech may also foreseeably give them the opportunity to attack, hurt, and kill people. You have to weigh that cost against the benefit of preserving your pristine first amendment ideal.
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Rigel posted:It compares extremely well. If you think the swastika will lead to millions of people flocking to their banner, you are crazy. I guess I would say that you should temper your certainty with actual facts. I'll be pretty happy if Nazi marches dissuade the general population from supporting far right causes/discredit the far right, and get a bunch of Nazis fired, but again... historical precedent doesn't support you here. I think we'll see some research come out of this in the next year or two. RuanGacho posted:If they lose their jobs every time they do it, that will end quickly. So far one dude has lost his job at a libertarian hot dog stand. This isn't a bad metric, but it's not certain to keep happening.
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RuanGacho posted:Correct, so when I say "No Nazis, ever." I dont mean we enact laws, I mean we start the conversation with outlining that there are no substantial differences between these people who are suggesting harm to Americans, it is vitally important to shatter their narrative that those not like them are Not American. . Thanks for the new point of view! (I honestly expected that to be some elaborate trap or something, phew.)
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Your Taint posted:Statement from the White House, but not Trump himself.. He didn't say any of that. I watched it live. "violence from both sides." I know 99% of you know, but it bears repeating.
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KickerOfMice posted:He didn't say any of that. I watched it live. "violence from both sides." I know Trump didn't mention the groups by name. It's a spokesman saying "well of course he condemn those groups."
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Pembroke Fuse posted:
To clarify, I don't advocate for doxxing people directly to make them lose their jobs, but we should try to develop a societal norm that if you are pictured marching for fascism, and your boss recognizes you, that should be a deal breaker.
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Koalas March posted:Seriously. The next time you feel conflicted about Nazis google 'holocaust' images. The next time you feel conflicted about racists in america and the KKK google lynchings. If you find yourself being conflicted about hate speech and bathroom bills google crime scene photos of any number of victims of senseless violence. The next time you think about hate speech and bathroom bills, visit a public restroom and check out the swastikas and hate slogans in every stall. Bathrooms are safe spaces for *whom*, now?
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Even if it's true, it still implies the only reason Trump is condemning those groups is because they became violent as opposed to, you know, their horrible worldview.
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coyo7e posted:No it's not. And if an old person is so daft as to use it then it's pretty easy to tell. You're stupid.  I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say. Wrapping words in "quote marks" even when not quoting is a common way to indicate emphasis in settings as diverse as hand written signs in grocery stores and the Facebook pages of old people. It is non standard and contrary to the grammatical rules of academic English, but it is a thing.
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So, if we're going to be honest, they won yesterday, didn't they? They got carte blanc from the presidency, they got to kill someone and get away with it, they already control the narrative, everyone now fully believes the left was bad and worse than Nazis, and they're going to do it again and have full endorsement by the university to do it again in Florida? So this is America's Reinstag fire. I hate to admit it because I think Prester Jane chickenlittles, but she was absolutely correct. Which is horrifying when you consider all the predictions.
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RuanGacho posted:To clarify, I don't advocate for doxxing people directly to make them lose their jobs, but we should try to develop a societal norm that if you are pictured marching for fascism, and your boss recognizes you, that should be a deal breaker. I'm all for doxxing in the form of identifying the marchers, spreading their image around social networks and sending a polite letter to their employers. If we're told that in a Capitalist society, consumers have the power to advance social policy only through their purchasing power, then this seems like the only way to go.
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Covok posted:So, if we're going to be honest, they won yesterday, didn't they? They got carte blanc from the presidency, they got to kill someone and get away with it, they already control the narrative, everyone now fully believes the left was bad and worse than Nazis, and they're going to do it again and have full endorsement by the university to do it again in Florida? Nice take.
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Covok posted:everyone now fully believes the left was bad and worse than Nazis, and they're going to do it again and have full endorsement by the university to do it again in Florida? Yeah, it's blatantly clear that not "everyone" thinks this way in any sense. Otherwise there wouldn't have been a tenth of the amount of backlash there has been in the last 24 hours.
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Covok posted:So, if we're going to be honest, they won yesterday, didn't they? They got carte blanc from the presidency, they got to kill someone and get away with it, they already control the narrative, everyone now fully believes the left was bad and worse than Nazis, and they're going to do it again and have full endorsement by the university to do it again in Florida? Nobody believes this except the Nazis and their supporters/enablers.
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Public bathrooms being covered in hate speech you say? It's almost a perfect analogy for how they abuse public assets and can only get away with it where no one is looking. Stay alert. Pembroke Fuse posted:I'm all for doxxing in the form of identifying the marchers, spreading their image around social networks and sending a polite letter to their employers. If we're told that in a Capitalist society, consumers have the power to advance social policy only through their purchasing power, then this seems like the only way to go. I'm sensitive to public disclosure because as a government worker almost all details of my life are public record so I have an above average exposure to vigilante attack from coordinated internet mobs, unless I decline to make waves, my life could be ruined by a place like Reddit. Gov workers basically give up their first amendment, but I think there's a difference between marching for genocide and having a political opinion. If there was recourse for people when a random internet mob came after them id be ok with it but as it currently stands there's nothing to prevent the mob from photoshopping you somewhere you weren't and ruining your life. I think I will maintain my stance for privacy even if Nazis on this one. I hope that doesn't make me hypocritical. RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Aug 13, 2017 |
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Rigel posted:One of the Post's token Republicans woke up spitting fire at Trump rubin has been terrible for a long time and has done little soul-searching about how she contributed to the republican party ending up here, but to her credit she's basically been calling out more and more of the republican party and describing it as probably corrupt beyond redemption
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Covok, ever consider joining a monastery? I think you should.
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well poo poo sucks, but i have a family to protect so at this point i basically have no choice but to join the nazi party. any advice? if any fellow nazi goons can get me a good position (READ: not at a concentration camp) i would really appreciate it
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DaveWoo posted:Nobody believes this except the Nazis and their supporters/enablers. Which includes the White House itself. They have Aids in the news today claiming that leftist started the violence. How long until that ends up winning the narrative?
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It doesn't matter what Trump says at this point. He could come out right now and give an hour long speech denouncing Nazis. The only optics that'll play out is that it requires condemnation from the media, citizens, and other government officials to get him to say "Nazis are bad" after one of them performed an act of terrorism
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Covok posted:everyone now fully believes the left was bad and worse than Nazis Shut up, covok.
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It's cool that I am the biggest anti-trump person ever but if you had told me 6 months ago that 200 days into trump's presidency that a story about us drawing close to a nuclear war would get put on the back burner by a story about nazis literally killing people in the street I'd have said that was over dramatic.
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botany posted:hey thread, here's some feel-good poo poo for you all, lord knows we can all use it. something very important to understand: throwing a proper punch requires lining up your hand properly. if done properly, your knuckles, hand bones, and arm bones all form a solid line with most of the force of the punch being absorbed by all of those so you can follow through effectively without hurting your hand or your wrist basically the front of your hand should form a plane, with the top anchored in your knuckes and the top of your hand forming another plane continuing back through your arm his hand is tilted up far too much so he's not delivering the full amount of force that a solid punch can give and is probably hurting his wrist and hand, weakening the punch not faulting the guy, just  so if you're going to punch a nazi you can do it right
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Covok posted:Which includes the White House itself. They have Aids in the news today claiming that leftist started the violence. How long until that ends up winning the narrative? The way you capitalized 'Aids' I thought you were doing some sort of "the cancer in the whitehouse" thing.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:The way you capitalized 'Aids' I thought you were doing some sort of "the cancer in the whitehouse" thing. I was going for an attempt to insult them by comparing them to disease, yes.
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Covok posted:So, if we're going to be honest, they won yesterday, didn't they? They got carte blanc from the presidency, they got to kill someone and get away with it, they already control the narrative, everyone now fully believes the left was bad and worse than Nazis, and they're going to do it again and have full endorsement by the university to do it again in Florida? How did they get away with anything? The guy who drove the car is getting charged with murder, Richard Spencer got arrested, and people are rightfully calling them Nazis all over the place.
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