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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Karl Barks posted:

even the soviets said the katyn massacre happened, is there really an argument that it's fake??

no one is saying it didn't happen, though some people claim the germans did it. i'm not one of them

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Baron Porkface
Jan 22, 2007


the bitcoin of weed posted:

I think they're more getting at "using these things as a cudgel against socialism in general is propaganda specifically promoted by nazis" but idk PSL messaging is all over the place

That was absolutely not what they were getting at, they are running interference for the Soviet Union.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

conversely the pcor is saying and doing the right things

https://twitter.com/ResistCongress/status/897145056330756100

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Vhak lord of hate posted:

Do people here prefer "no Trump, no kkk, no fascist usa" or "no Trump, no kkk, no fascists in the USA", because I've been hearing the first a lot recently and the cadence sucks

The first is better but for some reason people chant it with the pause after no trump, which seems like the wrong flow.

deetron69
Jan 18, 2005
its because it's taken from the lyrics to a MDC song and that's the way its sung in that.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

logikv9 posted:

:siren: Hello DSA thread. :siren: Your lovely OP has organized a gangtag for those of you who have donated a minimum of $5 to the DSA, if you choose to have it.



If you would like it, please quote this post along side proof of a donation of sufficient quantity. Proof can be simply quoting an older post you made previously that itself contained donation proof, or if you are a new donor that wants it, quote this post alongside proof of that donation.

I can nearly guarantee that your title will be safe and sound underneath your avatars within five (5) business days, or whenever I check this thread, really. :hai:

I finally stopped putting it off....

Only registered members can see post attachments!

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I'm going to the PCR event in DC in september. I dunno what to expect but Gloria la Riva will be there and that's cool

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
If real, this is a problem:
https://twitter.com/AHamiltonSpirit/status/897184906006155265

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Goon Danton posted:

I'm getting one of my friends to come with me to a candlelight vigil in Pittsburgh tonight, and another to come to our general meeting tomorrow.

Anyway, posting proof for gangtag.



Taintrunner posted:



old, but gangtag poast
read the instructions and quote me you jerks

title change submitted but i was frowning the whole time!!

Shlomo Palestein posted:

I'm in too (if we can save my bad hombres, all the better, but whatevski):



Lumpy posted:

I finally stopped putting it off....



these are Good Hombres and will lead the Revolution or whatever

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?



I'm still going. If I get shot by a Nazi... I dunno, kill two for me?

IWW Online Branch
Apr 20, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

logikv9 posted:

:siren: Hello DSA thread. :siren: Your lovely OP has organized a gangtag for those of you who have donated a minimum of $5 to the DSA, if you choose to have it.



If you would like it, please quote this post along side proof of a donation of sufficient quantity. Proof can be simply quoting an older post you made previously that itself contained donation proof, or if you are a new donor that wants it, quote this post alongside proof of that donation.

I can nearly guarantee that your title will be safe and sound underneath your avatars within five (5) business days, or whenever I check this thread, really. :hai:

I was already a member, but I've decided to up my monthly dues because gently caress fascists.



410757864530 SCALPED NAZIS

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

Crazycryodude posted:

I'm still going. If I get shot by a Nazi... I dunno, kill two for me?

Is this where we want the police to be involved or what, what's the stance here on this sort of thing

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

RiotGearEpsilon posted:

Is this where we want the police to be involved or what, what's the stance here on this sort of thing

Don't rely on the cops

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice

Agnosticnixie posted:

Also Indivisible in NC shut down a BLM-organized rally as divisive and one of the pics of it going down is like the most "white lady with the talking stick" thing possible.

Can you please provide more details and photos?

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

Phi230 posted:

Don't rely on the cops

I'm a big liberal and even I'm not dumb enough to rely on the police, but that doesn't mean they can't be useful sometimes.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


RiotGearEpsilon posted:

I'm a big liberal and even I'm not dumb enough to rely on the police, but that doesn't mean they can't be useful sometimes.

It's gonna vary from city to city, but I would assume that the cops will act the same way they did in VA.

Every man for himself them.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

RiotGearEpsilon posted:

Is this where we want the police to be involved or what, what's the stance here on this sort of thing

running a car into a crowd of leftists, backing up, running into them again, and then fleeing the scene got the perp a sedate escort to the station. hes looking at murder 2 at the worst.

the cops won't do poo poo for you except snap your dead pics.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Willie Tomg posted:

running a car into a crowd of leftists, backing up, running into them again, and then fleeing the scene got the perp a sedate escort to the station. hes looking at murder 2 at the worst.

the cops won't do poo poo for you except snap your dead pics.

as a police abolitionist, i think they should have let him go, and then turned in their badges

Serf
May 5, 2011


bring your own gun and stand your ground harder than the nazis

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Phi230 posted:

I'm going to the PCR event in DC in september. I dunno what to expect but Gloria la Riva will be there and that's cool

gloria owns. i won't be able to make it but keep folks updated on how it goes

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

unbutthurtable posted:

Can you please provide more details and photos?

https://twitter.com/imastringbean/status/896868804692725760

It was in Durham last night. I forgot to post it here but put it in a dem thread. I don't have much more than this twitter thread but given all I heard about Indivisible trying to do their best to ignore any left wing and BLM presence on the ground I can entirely believe this is legit.

Also Cornel West pointed out that the cops basically pulled out and ignored a lot of the things that went down until someone died. And it's not even sure the guy won't either walk or get the lightest possible sentence for this.

Agnosticnixie has issued a correction as of 23:16 on Aug 14, 2017

Huragok
Sep 14, 2011

Serf posted:

bring your own gun and stand your ground harder than the nazis

in a deadpan voice I feared for my life aahh

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


For what it's worth:

https://twitter.com/IndivisibleTeam/status/896911058258075648

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Huragok posted:

in a deadpan voice I feared for my life aahh

I like my Nazis like i like my Christmas ornaments. Hanging from trees :clint:

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

https://twitter.com/austin_DSA/status/897217954068258816

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Slanderer posted:

as a police abolitionist, i think they should have let him go, and then turned in their badges

gently caress off

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
:yeah:

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Oz Fox posted:

its because it's taken from the lyrics to a MDC song and that's the way its sung in that.

Ah, that makes sense.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Willie Tomg posted:

gently caress off

sorry, but the borders separating threads are the creation of capitalist states. this forum was meant to be united by international socialism, and this forum belongs to you and me

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Slanderer posted:

sorry, but the borders separating threads are the creation of capitalist states. this forum was meant to be united by international socialism, and this forum belongs to you and me

I didn't read this

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Slanderer posted:

as a police abolitionist, i think they should have let him go, and then turned in their badges

i agree, they should have turned him over to the community to decide his fate

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

if nothing else that pig-fucker should step down for causing the DSA to eat away at itself, so gently caress him for letting this shitshow go on any longer than the convention. I don't give a gently caress if he was anoited in a collective vision by the ghosts of Lenin and MLK, and jarofpiss vouches that he personally pushed him out of the way of a fascist bullet, this whole debacle is a loving embarrassment and needs to be swept quickly under the rug of the org's history. The org comes first, and that neither he nor Austin DSA sees that is shameful.

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS
rofl if you think a police presence will be beneficial after this weekend, they literally released a statement that they won't bother nazis if they're armed enough then made every effort to assault/arrest peaceful protesters in NYC. the best result you can hope for is that they'll crash another helicopter in the forest

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


What I'm hearing is that organized groups of open-carriers should be part of the security strategy for peaceful/nonviolent public actions.

Eta: But I don't really trust myself to be a source of strategic opinions. We'll see how different locals and organizations handle community/comradely self-defense from now on.

Doc Hawkins has issued a correction as of 00:22 on Aug 15, 2017

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Doc Hawkins posted:

What I'm hearing is that organized groups of open-carriers should be part of the security strategy for peaceful/nonviolent public actions.

*offer not valid in CA, thx reagan

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Autism Sneaks posted:

causing the DSA to eat away at itself
might as well ban half the dsa itself

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

R. Mute posted:

might as well ban half the dsa itself

it's like the leftist equivalent of dogs licking the fresh scar tissue that was until very recently their nutsack

the answer is to stick a cone on them and have zero tolerance for the behavior

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
i think there are larger issues to worry about atm then fetonte

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

Doc Hawkins posted:

What I'm hearing is that organized groups of open-carriers should be part of the security strategy for peaceful/nonviolent public actions.

Eta: But I don't really trust myself to be a source of strategic opinions. We'll see how different locals and organizations handle community/comradely self-defense from now on.

As much as I worry this might escalate down the line, for now it seems like it's generally a better tactic and a couple people on the anti side in Cville were armed just in case.

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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


direct action

https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825

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