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pumpinglemma posted:So, uh, this just went up on Popehat. Apparently DC prosecutors are trying to get the IP addresses of everyone who even visited disruptj20.org, one of the major hubs for the inauguration protests. Because that's not horrifying at all. There's a hearing on Friday. my hot take: #DJ20 was a peaceful protest, executed on the day of the inauguration, wherein a handful of paid organizers (funded by George Soros) collected protesters as they arrived in the city (having promoted attendance and given guidance for where arriving activists might congregate), segregating them into 7 or 8 impact groups. These groups - each themed with a relevant social justice identity, i.e. 'Water Protectors' or '#BLM' or 'LGBTQA' or 'Labor' or whatever - each held a direct action and a march on the morning of the inauguration. The direct action was to build a human barricade at each of the entrances to the national mall, and hold the barricade until the inauguration begins. There was disinformatika about plots to disrupt subway traffic. There were the 420 activists who handed out joints in McPhereson Square with the intention of lighting them all on the national mall four minutes and twenty seconds into Trump's speech - though few of those activists were able to enter the national mall. The whole purpose of the action was to ensure the turnout at Trump's inauguration was as low as possible - visibly low, in photographs. The troll definitely worked, as Trump's Administration's /first/ official communication was an outright lie about exactly those crowd sizes. While the DJ20 groups were /executing/ their peaceful human barricades, the Black Bloc marched. A number gathered at McPhereson and marched north(?) to Dupont. I marched alongside for that leg, and as they came down a major street toward Franklin Park - the park I'd slept in the night before. I hung back in Franklin to pick up a trash can that someone had carelessly turned over - not realizing /the parks are *OURS*/ - and the po-lice rushed by me to kettle everyone on the march. Many are still facing federal charges. I could easily have been among them. The Bloc distracted Riot Cops from the peaceful Barricades. Attendance was embarassingly low. Images of the low turnout made it to press. Trump's ego took a significant blow, and he got butthurt, became a lulzcow. But as The Bloc and the Riot Cops continued to battle throughout the day - the battle that moved toward Franklin park later, prompting me to tear off my clothes in protest - each of the #DJ20 marches, enjoying the success of their Direct Actions from earlier in the day, was led peacefully and loudly through the streets of DC. And each of those marches passed through the battle zone where the Bloc and the Riot Cops were squared off - where National Guard sat watching, under a watchful helicopter's eye. The peaceful crowds passing through the battle zone allowed people to de-bloc and duck out, or black-up and pop in. I don't know that the kettle really captured any of the people that were swinging hammers or throwing stones. The limo that was set on fire, that was put there by Larry King - who works for RT. Uglycat fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Aug 14, 2017 |
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/897215231243542531 If Bannon does go, will it fuel an alt-right rebellion on Trump? Breitbart's readership has been way down, I wonder if ditching Bannon and slightly distancing himself from open fascism will piss off any pepes.
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evilweasel posted:that junior staffer is going to go broke lawyering up though i think that describes half the people in the administration at this point
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QuoProQuid posted:the wapo article reads like some junior staffer being taken for a ride by russian intelligence Agreed, but counterintelligence folks should probably have a chat with that staffer.
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n3wt posted:It's worth looking into in any case. Shame the counter terrorist group is now anti islamic only thanks to Trump. It should be handled by the FBI. I hope they still have good people in place to do this sort of work.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well to be fair it probaly is, that being said, alt right/nazis and wahabis/salfist assholes are 2 sides of the same coin. mostly dumb hosed up angry kids who want to lash out so they join the edgiest group and then kill a bunch of people. and/or who seek a group to belong to and reach the same result
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QuoProQuid posted:the wapo article reads like some junior staffer being taken for a ride by russian intelligence It is, but junior staffers are the guys most likely to flip since they can't afford high priced lawyers
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GreyjoyBastard posted:and/or who seek a group to belong to and reach the same result yep, there was some quote by the book eater that stated that they wouldnt be hated by the wahabies if they just got rid of western "degeneracy".
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evilweasel posted:did you actually think that someone was claiming they were imaginary No, someone was saying "but hospitals use them so they must work", where the thing is is that they securely connect you to something but that "something" can be anything. It can securely connect you to a hospital's internal network and let you use the hospital's internal database or whatever but if it's securely connecting you to just some other ISP just like the one you are already connected to it doesn't get you much. It's not a magic security spell or anything.
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The Glumslinger posted:It is, but junior staffers are the guys most likely to flip since they can't afford high priced lawyers admittedly, i do enjoy the detail that "[h]e graduated from college in 2009, and his LinkedIn profile cited his participation in a Model U.N. program for students among his qualifications." also lol at the idea of ccing my boss on my attempt to conspire with a foreign power
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QuoProQuid posted:admittedly, i do enjoy the detail that "[h]e graduated from college in 2009, and his LinkedIn profile cited his participation in a Model U.N. program for students among his qualifications." model un lmao
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I am not saying that the Alt Right and the Nazi's of America are wholly the invention of Russia. I am saying that it has been reported on that Russia has helped fund Far Right organizations across Europe and that there is likelyhood they are funding some far right groups.
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VPN just means instead of your isp knowing what IP addresses you're connecting to your VPN knows that. However they do prevent the sites you're visiting from knowing where you are. Https is what prevents your isp or your VPN from being able to view the contents of your communications with the remote server. Your DNS server is who knows exactly what sites you're visiting, since more than one site can have the same public IP address, although many times it's a 1:1 match. Either way yes there is no 100 percent anonymous way to browse the web and it isn't impossible that given the right resources any actor couldn't figure out your browsing history.
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The tantrum continues https://twitter.com/realpresssecbot/status/897219036982853632
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Uh oh looks like Trump's got a new beef with Acosta now after his poo poo response to Charlottesville got called out again today. Keep it up you piece of poo poo. Looking real loving good. Please call Charlottesville fake news or some genius move like that too and see how well it goes for you.  So good of him to levy another strongly worded attack at the guy that ditched you in disgust. Now officially spent more time in the last 48 hours moaning about perceived slights against him than addressing a national crisis on record. Again just looking so loving good to the world agan Kale fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Aug 14, 2017 |
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Tayter Swift posted:The tantrum continues Apparently other CEOs on the council are like "dude we're not sticking our head out to get the flak that the Merck guy is getting, are you loving stupid," all on background to reporters.
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Kale posted:Uh oh looks like Trump's got a new beef with Acosta now after his poo poo response to Charlottesville got called out again today. Keep it up you piece of poo poo. Looking real loving good. Please call Charlottesville fake news or some genius move like that too and see how well it goes for you. Jones "I ate chili and forgot the names of my 100% non gmo human offspring" has already gone on to say it's a false flag. There are timelines where Donnie's handling of this is even worse.
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I've mentioned before that I'm familiar with this dude, but I don't recall if I've mentioned this. I know for a fact that he was investigated by either the Victoria PD or the Victoria County sheriff for improper relationship with an underage girl. Wasn't charged, but I think they ran him out of town, which is why he ended up in College Station. Also he was scammed/catfished out of thousands of dollars by teenage Russian girls (or scammers pretending to be). He's in his 50s. Dude is a proper creep in addition to being a shithead.
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Dietrich posted:VPN just means instead of your isp knowing what IP addresses you're connecting to your VPN knows that. However they do prevent the sites you're visiting from knowing where you are. Https is what prevents your isp or your VPN from being able to view the contents of your communications with the remote server. Your DNS server is who knows exactly what sites you're visiting, since more than one site can have the same public IP address, although many times it's a 1:1 match. Any good VPN directs DNS through the VPN, so it still only is the VPN provider. Just need to be sure to get one that doesn't log and you're pretty OK other than all the browser identifying cookies
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Hollismason posted:I am not saying that the Alt Right and the Nazi's of America are wholly the invention of Russia. I am saying that it has been reported on that Russia has helped fund Far Right organizations across Europe and that there is likelyhood they are funding some far right groups. They bankrolled Marine LePen's presidential run in france so there's that.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:No, someone was saying "but hospitals use them so they must work", where the thing is is that they securely connect you to something but that "something" can be anything. It can securely connect you to a hospital's internal network and let you use the hospital's internal database or whatever but if it's securely connecting you to just some other ISP just like the one you are already connected to it doesn't get you much. It's not a magic security spell or anything. That's not what I said. How about an actual quote?
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QuoProQuid posted:i need three more for bingo, tho Every time anyone mentions bingo I can only think of the enthusiastic way Hans Landa talked about it.
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a bloo bloo, why are they so mean to me? a bloo bloo
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Azhais posted:Any good VPN directs DNS through the VPN, so it still only is the VPN provider. Just need to be sure to get one that doesn't log and you're pretty OK other than all the browser identifying cookies Do not expect a VPN to protect you from state actors. Just fyi.
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The "Woah" is for "Why the gently caress did they have a scheduled white nationalist event scheduled for 9/11?", right?
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BUT WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEE
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I think the thing no one is focusing on is that now the language has changed from alt-right to white nationalist, which ties them much closer to their nazi heritage.
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ugh you made such a big deal about me condemning Nazis and when I finally do it, you don't love me for it???
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Media: How come Trump seems to be able to get angry and indignant about everyone from Mitch McConnel to CNN to Muslims to Democrats to Mika Brezinski to the Twilight films but can't work up some emotion about Nazis, white supremicists, and a terrorist act on American soil? Trump: Gets angry about the media pointing out that he's not angry about the Nazis.
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Keep digging. Keep showing your true colors. I wanna see how low that approval rating can go.
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Get hosed you orange clown anus, not everything is about you. You should not be applauded for taking days to go on record to denounce Nazis.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:I think the thing no one is focusing on is that now the language has changed from alt-right to white nationalist, which ties them much closer to their nazi heritage. Yeah, I agree with this People have stopped pretending its different movements or just at the fringes
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When Obama was president every time something like this happened my racist coworkers would blame Obama for setting race relations back 50 years, but now that Trump is in charge they're placing the blame squarely on him. Just kidding, they're saying that the statues are part of history and should stay up and who even knows who attacked who anyways?
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