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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I have a hard time believing more than like 3 people in that entire thread are actually competition-level lifters

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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Aphrodite posted:

*spins around really fast so my dead dick knocks all the doctors and nurses surrounding me to the ground*

*gets dizzy, falls over, dies from heart being too weak to pump blood to brain*

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Kelp Me! posted:

I have a hard time believing more than like 3 people in that entire thread are actually competition-level lifters

Like, unaffiliated competitions at your gym don't count either. Unless you're making your living doing it it's real dumb (no one makes their living doing it, only like the top 10 bodybuilders in the world do)

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


it's sending one of the most critical and basic parts of your body loving haywire, it's pretty dumb even if you are making a living doing it

TheDarkFlame
May 4, 2013

You tell me I didn't build that?

I'll have you know I worked my fingers to the bone to get where I am today.

Syd Midnight posted:

I wanted to post direct quotes I found alarming but after a few pages I just had too many and quit trying. Like, the one about dealing with steroid-hosed-up blood and blood pressure by donating blood or just, like, bleeding it out.

poo poo. And I thought the low-carb thread linked earlier, with its OP's screed of "It's all a lie! Scientists are wrong! Trust the Internet!" and first page made entirely of anecdotes desperate to make you join the cause, that was horrible and insane. Then you've got a steroid dude telling people about the time he decided to be his own phlebotomist, and welp

putrid aidsman
Apr 13, 2017

by Lowtax

Aphrodite posted:

*spins around really fast so my dead dick knocks all the doctors and nurses surrounding me to the ground*

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

I always wondered why hospitals still kept leeches around :v:

Disgusting Coward
Feb 17, 2014
reality: a man falls through the earth and into parisian catacombs. taking a torch from the wall he spies row upon row of skeletons. grasping the nearest by the shoulders, he shakes it madly, and he's so strong it instantly fragments in his strong and beefy hands

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Disgusting Coward posted:

reality: a man falls through the earth and into parisian catacombs. taking a torch from the wall he spies row upon row of skeletons. grasping the nearest by the shoulders, he shakes it madly, and he's so strong it instantly fragments in his strong and beefy hands breasts

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Kelp Me! posted:

Can someone explain what the ultimate goal of this poo poo is? Like I highly doubt anybody in that thread is plateauing at 300lb bench press and needs that extra boost. Are there really people delusional enough to believe that steroids can replace actual exercise, or barring that, to believe that they're at the highest tier of bodybuilding where the only possible way forward is by literally making your body freak the gently caress out and not be able to understand what hormones it should be producing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kbSfFFEvxw

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Is there a synthol thread in tcc yet because really yall might as well just go for it at this point

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
TCC is the best anti-drugs site on the internet.

TheDarkFlame
May 4, 2013

You tell me I didn't build that?

I'll have you know I worked my fingers to the bone to get where I am today.
Synthol is the thing where they inject a gel where the muscle should be to make it look like they got mutilated by some kind of comic book accident/experiment?

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

TheDarkFlame posted:

Synthol is the thing where they inject a gel where the muscle should be to make it look like they got mutilated by some kind of comic book accident/experiment?

Yeah it's basically the opposite of krokodil, which would make it "harm reduction" to use both of them at the same time

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


purple death ray posted:

Yeah it's basically the opposite of krokodil, which would make it "harm reduction" to use both of them at the same time

i want to post this unironically in there and see how many serious responses I get

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

purple death ray posted:

Yeah it's basically the opposite of krokodil, which would make it "harm reduction" to use both of them at the same time

I'm not sure if replacing meat with play doh is harm reduction, but I guess it is a valid cosmetic treatment.

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?

Inescapable Duck posted:

TCC is the best anti-drugs site on the internet.

Not for actual addicts, please move the recovery thread out of tcc

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I mean, it's kind of amazing to see people being complete and total idiot nerds over drugs. Show that to kids. 'Don't do drugs, you'll end up arguing with people on internet forums over whose pill selection is best and insisting there's no problem with you losing limbs and blacking out for days on end and waking up having spent all your money on pianos'.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Inescapable Duck posted:

I mean, it's kind of amazing to see people being complete and total idiot nerds over drugs. Show that to kids. 'Don't do drugs, you'll end up arguing with people on internet forums over whose pill selection is best and insisting there's no problem with you losing limbs and blacking out for days on end and waking up having spent all your money on pianos'.

"It's about Harm Reduction" the folorn dead armed man says sitting in his loft filled to the brim with Grand pianos.

spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

The funny thing is that there is a very small portion of the population who is going to gently caress you simply based on if you're jacked to all hell, steroid guys. Almost no women give a poo poo if you're all steroid muscley past the age of 19. Like, if your shoulders can fill out a shirt, you can make them laugh, have a reasonable job, and don't have a completely filthy apartment/home you will get laid. By a fair amount of women you are surprised by.

Something like 14% of American adults do any physical exercise so you're already blowing most of the population out of the water just by going to the gym.

FYI if you have time to clean one room clean the bathroom, if you have time to clean one thing clean the toilet.

Gospel

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

C2C - 2.0 posted:

Eh, I tried. I knew it would be a pile-on which I expected & is somewhat deserved. As ever, everyone's welcome to come by the thread with questions/concerns/etc

I appreciate you posting here too, C2C! I have to study about steroids/hormones and drug interaction for work this week so I've been interspersing peer reviewed articles with the TCC thread. I may take you up on that offer to post questions to the thread later this week.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Kelp Me! posted:

the more I read of the steroids thread the more I'm convinced that neither the benzos thread nor the RC thread comes close to matching the absurd poo poo people are putting into their bodies right now

grasping the nearest by the shoulders, he shakes it madly, yelling "bro have u tried dianabol"

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Glenn Quebec posted:

...why the 25mg of cialis for a roid supplement?

Scientific reason - it increases blood flow to the muscles, resulting in a better pump.

quote:

"The class of Phosphodiesterase inhibitors found in Viagra prolong the messenger signal that causes blood vessels to dilate after being stimulated by nitric oxide (NO). NO stimulates receptors on the smooth muscle that regulate the degree of constriction and dilation of arteries and arterioles which cause the blood vessel to relax. This results in a more open blood vessel, increasing blood flow and delivery of oxygen and nutrients"

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:
Steroids thread owns:

Tommy 2.0 posted:

Other option is a harem. Like I said, committed monogamous relationships on tren SUCKKKKKKK, but if you are single, or do the open/poly thing, game the gently caress on.

Tommy 2.0 posted:

Man, it's not even about getting off or being horny on tren it seems. More like establishing dominance or something stupid. I've been willing to gently caress people (gender regardless) I have zero sexual interest in just to gently caress them. Been down for getting pegged while off tren. On? gently caress no. Not unless you are going to ride me like a petite stabby backpack while I slam your girlfriend.

willie_dee posted:

My gay friends insist that power bottoming is the most dominant form of sex, just something to think about next time you are trenning it up.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Vladimir Poutine posted:

Steroids thread owns:

Knock knock. It's me, the Petite Stabby Backpack. You know what time it is

Odddzy
Oct 10, 2007
Once shot a man in Reno.
I'm pretty sure guys doing steroids illegally for bodybuilding have a mental illness, that thread only confirms that.

A HUNGRY MOUTH
Nov 3, 2006

date of birth: 02/05/88
manufacturer: mazda
model/year: 2008 mazda6
sexuality: straight, bi-curious
peircings: pusspuss



Nap Ghost

Vladimir Poutine posted:

Steroids thread owns:

I took the strength ooze and now my blood has been replaced with Freddy Krueger gently caress slime. Tried giving it to a hospital for use on the near-dead but still got a bunch left over, any advice??

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

funmanguy posted:

Not for actual addicts, please move the recovery thread out of tcc

I'm pretty sure they had a thread for that Russian flesh melting drug Krokodil stating how you could "safely" take it.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

IShallRiseAgain posted:

I'm pretty sure they had a thread for that Russian flesh melting drug Krokodil stating how you could "safely" take it.

Krokodil was just desomorphine made in lovely equipment or something like that. The leprosy or w/e was just contamination from the caustic chemicals used to make it in lovely labs.

Jesus christ I don't even smoke weed, how is that knowledge stored away?

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Krokodil was just desomorphine made in lovely equipment or something like that.

Jesus christ I don't even smoke weed, how is that knowledge stored away?

yes but the important thing was that it was a krokodil thread not a deso thread

like, you are posting in the thread under the full assumption that you are using a chemical which will rot away your flesh in a matter of weeks

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Kelp Me! posted:

you might not go bald/grow breasts!

A Spider Covets posted:

His nipples are very enthused

Vladimir Poutine posted:

willie_dee posted:

power bottoming is the most dominant form of sex

I've left this thread subtitle-less since it's never really needed one in the past but drat if one of these three isn't tempting.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Kelp Me! posted:

yes but the important thing was that it was a krokodil thread not a deso thread

like, you are posting in the thread under the full assumption that you are using a chemical which will rot away your flesh in a matter of weeks

Yeah I really missed the forest for the trees on that one. I think that's my fault for reading through the entire opiates thread at one point.

Goddamn, the people posting about how they were going to responsibly use heroin injections spiralling out of control while everyone who was trying to get off heroin told them to never, ever start please stop now was super depressing.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003



I've left this thread subtitle-less since it's never really needed one in the past but drat if one of these three isn't tempting.
[/quote]

I really really wish we had longer thread titles because "My gay friends insist that power bottoming is the most dominant form of sex, just something to think about next time you are trenning it up" is possibly the greatest sentence I have ever seen in my 14 years on these dead gay forums

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

C2C - 2.0 posted:

Eh, I tried. I knew it would be a pile-on which I expected & is somewhat deserved. As ever, everyone's welcome to come by the thread with questions/concerns/etc

You know, you say it's a safe and healthy thread but the only other guy defending it here smears mental illness all over the steroid thread like kratom on a sandwich

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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
This thread is delivering on steroids right now. :five:

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Turns out the only thing steroids can effectively pump are dead gay forums.

Syd Midnight
Sep 23, 2005

I'm a bit slow following up, but I had to go back and read the thread again to be sure of what I was seeing, and to try and understand more of the slang (like "pin" = "inject"). I meant it when I said that I wasn't posting quotes because there were so many I got tired of quoting. Here's what I mean:

From the OP: "Tren - Trenbolone (Acetate/Enanthate). God jerked off into a vial. Lucky you!".

Moist von Lipwig posted:

Trenbolone is the most powerful steroid ever created and it doesn't aromatise so it doesn't cause that huge bloat that testosterone does. It's never been approved for human use, only cattle.

Equipoise is a horse steroid and causes a big increase in appetite.

C2C - 2.0 posted:

Yep, I've run Tren at 700mg/week before, though I haven't run it with Mast. I don't know if it's because I've run test low-ish on Tren (125-200mg/week), but sides were manageable; sleep & body heat (while laying down) were the worst of it.

(edit: If I'm reading that abstract correctly, 400mg is a lifetime supply for a 640 pound bull.)

C2C - 2.0 posted:

Yeah, that's bandied about in the community. I dunno'; I don't really have an opinion. I didn't decide to run Tren until I'd read everything I could about it. I also didn't do my first run with it at 700mg/week. I started at a lower dosage & just ramped up from there over time while I assessed its effects on me. I've run 50mg/day before; the effects were nice & linear. 100mg/day is where you start to think, "This stuff...is magic". Cardio is definitely impacted at that dosage, but eating at maintenance I didn't need cardio at all. The actual worst part of Tren Ace is the daily pinning for a few months. It gets to be annoying, the prep portion of the little ritual. I wish I could just wake up with a loaded syringe already sitting there on my bedside table. I pin larger muscles (pecs, lats, quads) so I never really run into scar tissue problems.

C2C - 2.0 posted:

I'm on my third cycle with Tren.

I don't get the acne & it doesn't necessarily exacerbate my hair loss, even though I've been thinning for a few years now.

I do get night sweats, but they're milder than DNP. Some insomnia, but it's inconsistent. If I get home from work & I'm wiped out, I usually sleep okay. I do find I have less tolerance for bullshit, but I don't flip out or anything. I just curse the person out mentally. My dreams are BEYOND loving crazy though. Very vivid and either sexual or violent in nature, sometimes both. Bonkers.

50mg/day is a good start to assess your tolerance to Tren Ace. I'd run that dosage, at a minimum, for at least 4 weeks. Assuming good diet/training, you should be able to see visible recomp results while also determining how you're handling the sides.

Tren is potent as gently caress & just plain works.

Tommy 2.0 posted:

Single and NOT having sex? You aren't doing tren right. You will need MULTIPLE partners (and don't be sneaky player player bullshit, they all should know about each other). If in a serious relationship? I look at it like this. You don't have to remember the truth, but you have to remember a lie. Be transparent. It can be damned frustrating in a monogamous relationship on tren because there is going to be NO WAY they are going to be able to keep up with your drive. A sexually frustrated tren user is not a happy tren user. The reduced cardio ability is no hyperbole. Ways to counter this? EQ. No joke. Sadly, I don't know anyone who has particularly enjoyed the combination of tren and EQ together due to the mental combination they hit you with. Ephedrine is actually a decent one. Oh, and actually force yourself to do more cardio to get better at cardio. Crazy solution, right? I am not a fan, at all, of treating symptoms with more supplements.

Tommy 2.0 posted:

Please get graphic. Please get graphic with descriptions about libido on tren also.

Tren, masteron, and caber make for sleep-jerk sessions. Your SO will elbow you for waking them up for how loud you are sleep jerking, not your snoring.

Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

have you ever felt like getting a whole village pregnant and then burning it down, but feel real mellow about it?

that's how test makes me feel.

C2C - 2.0 posted:

I've run 700mg of Tren weekly a few times.

At that high of a dosage, it's like being in a perpetual fever dream which becomes even more pronounced when you come off of it.

I'm not likely going to be running it over 400mg ever again, even when paired with Mast.

Tommy 2.0 posted:

If this thread is actually deterring people from supplementing hormones than good I say. Most people would inject margarine intravenously if the media told them. Then again, margarine is far more hell on your heart than any combination/amount of hormones.

In other news, my penis has gone completely numb after a four hour session with the hitachi.

Being able to go forever, like on tren, due to insensitivity has reached a whole new level.

Moist von Lipwig posted:

Yeah exactly this. The few studies on higher-than-TRT doses of androgenic steroids almost all yielded some form of hypomania. This isn't necessarily bad but it can be dangerous because your thinking can become more disordered than you realize. I'm not trying to scare anyone away from compounds like tren but know the risk and try and be mindful of your actions. There's a reason so many people end up cheating and getting STDs and poo poo on high levels of tren and it isn't just higher sex drive. Stay safe, brothers!

Tommy 2.0 posted:

EQ + Tren is the single most mind gently caress or a hormone combo I know of. At least bad mind gently caress. Also makes you the prettiest.

"God why do I even train ugh my life gently caress YEAH I AM A loving ANIMAL I AM GOING TO gently caress THIS DUMBBELL IN TO A KETTLEBELL"

Moist von Lipwig posted:

Its essentially hypomania. Excessive confidence, EXTREME libido increase, risk seeking behaviour and a general sense of not giving a poo poo about much but not in an apathetic way, stuff just rolls off you... unless you explode in a fireball of rage.

Its actually a lot like other psychoactive drugs. Acid the first time is a real mindfuck. By the tenth time you've done it you know all it's tricks and can see them coming and head them off. Cultivating good headspace is important.

Moist von Lipwig posted:


As a return to theme, I think taking a ton of hallucinogens over the years and learning to cope with the emotional roller coasters they can be helps manage that a lot.

new friend from school posted:

My experience was very similar to the above, and there's another post of mine a little further up the page with more detail.
People exaggerate a lot on the internet. The only sides which lived up to the hype, in my experience, were the night sweats, "rusty" looking morning pee, and the devastating (but temporary) effect on lipids.
Start low to gauge sensitivity, adjust accordingly, and have fun. There's a reason it's so many people's favorite compound. poo poo works like nothing else.

Tommy 2.0 posted:

This is me. What seems to help with my night sweats is avoiding carbs a few hours before bed. Rusty pee? The obvious. More water. It's still a bit disconcerting. As for lipids? I have tried citrus bergamont, but even if it was helping, it sure wasn't helping enough. Tren is for real about making your doctor mad it seems.

Tommy 2.0 posted:

I very much so remember mine being 11 for HDL after a long tren run. Fine now. It's when the "tren is bad for cholesterol" thing really REALLY sunk in. That isn't hyperbole. I lost my life insurance. No joke.

Tommy 2.0 posted:

You can get "tren cough" injecting anything though. It's just a billion times more likely with tren.

Also, the pheremone thing is real. Tren definitely DEFINITELY puts off pheremones. Even if you hadn't had noticeable physique changes yet, you will absolutely be more attractive to whatever is attracted to your gender. Well, they will either want to fight you or gently caress you. Also, a lot of people will have a hard time staring you in the eye. No poo poo, I get done pinning and take the lassstttttt little drop and dap it on the back of my wrists. Better than any drat cologne you can imagine. My SO's libido goes up just as much as mine if I am on tren.


This is a thing. There comes a point where there isn't enough spit and lube in the world to account for these levels of friction.

Tren, when single, is the most amazing poo poo for your sex life. But if with only one partner? Oh dear gently caress. You will masturbate at the rate of a collapsing star.

There is much, much more, but I'll take a break at Pheromone Sex Secrets Doctors Don't Want You To Know! (Discovered By a Goon!).

I'm not going to quote the most depressing posts.

edit: this belongs in there too

new friend from school posted:

I don't get all the hype regarding 700mg tren. That's my go-to dose. I might be a bad responder though, the only "negative" sides I ever get are really intense night sweats (which I actually enjoy) and a *really* hosed up lipid profile, which I've bounced back from quickly.
I'm a high responder to test though, which sometimes really sucks. On one hand, I get every side except acne and hair loss (no genetic predisposition is why), and I aromatize immediately upon thinking of test, but on the other hand I can cruise on just 100mg/week without losing blast gains at all. Can't go over 500mg/week on blasts because my BP skyrockets (to the point of hypertensive crisis a couple of times) and it fucks with my head real bad.

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Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
It pains me to see Moist von Lipwig fall so low. Was the bank and post office and railway not enough?!

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Screaming Idiot posted:

It pains me to see Moist von Lipwig fall so low. Was the bank and post office and railway not enough?!

I lol'd

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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003



Moist von Lipwig posted:

Trenbolone is the most powerful steroid ever created and it doesn't aromatise so it doesn't cause that huge bloat that testosterone does. It's never been approved for human use, only cattle.

Equipoise is a horse steroid and causes a big increase in appetite.

cmon man you gotta bury the lede a bit

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