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Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

all u need to know about something awful forums poster "Killroy" - he really really hates his coworker Roy

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Says the company that hired Jeffery Lord. Weak, CNN, weak.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

The Glumslinger posted:

So whats your answer?

Don't vote?
Vote Green?
Overthrow the entire government?
Move to another country?


Like, you seem to be here to bitch and be a nuisance about how you know more than the rest of us, but you don't seem to actually have any direction for what you think people should do.
I wish I had answers for problems that big :) I'd settle for getting people to agree with the statement "It's rather disgusting and pathetic for the Democrats if their putative leader makes a weaker statement against Nazism than goddamned Mitt loving Romney".

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Lightning Knight posted:

Says the company that hired Jeffery Lord. Weak, CNN, weak.

God dam it. This poo poo is so counterproductive and stupid. Stop it.

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

boner confessor posted:

since miami connection

Good holy fuxcksxxX I always assumed that was a negative tribute piece dedicated to 80's movies.

IT IS REAL.

Okay this day ended a tiny bit better than I expected. :stare:

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Kilroy posted:

their putative leader

Lol, bitch I'm the leader of the #Resistance, not the specter of elections past you tell ghost stories to your body pillow about.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Even I, who loves to pick on the centrists here, will admit that now is not the time to be debating leftists vs centrists. When (hell, if) we have primaries for 2018, we can have the argument then.

Until then, we need to all present a united front against fascism.

There's a very good part of that Dan Harmon rant, which is don't even bother engaging with them. I made the mistake of trying to argue in GBS with a few of the MAGA chuds and it's just not even worth the minimal effort. They're not speaking in good faith, don't even bother engaging.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

eyebeem posted:

God dam it. This poo poo is so counterproductive and stupid. Stop it.

Oh gently caress you, if Trump strung three coherent sentences together and sent a Tomahawk or two through some Syrian windows CNN would be calling him the new Ronald Reagan by the end of the day. gently caress CNN.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Historically it has been the job of centrists and leftists to kill Nazis in droves. Nothing has changed.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

JBP posted:

Historically it has been the job of centrists and leftists to kill Nazis in droves. Nothing has changed.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

Prester Jane posted:

At some point Lowtax needs to bite the loving bullet and admit that GBS 2.0 was a horrible mistake and for all the flaws of GBS 1.0 it was way better than the poo poo we have now. Seriouslyt the #1 reason the SA forums are dying right now is because of the steaming pile of poo poo that GBS was allowed to turn into. All of this websites outwards facing pages/forums like GBS or the account registration page are some of the most embarrassing poo poo on the internet.

The end user experience for someone not already familiar with SA is loving miserable and that is why we attract very few new quality posters and are mostly coasting on the momentum created by the communities heyday.

Fake Edit: I mean seriously log out of your account and take a look at what the forum looks like to a potential new user. loving embarassing.

Why would we want new users? Have you read Reddit lately?

berserker
Aug 17, 2003

My love for you
is ticking clock

JBP posted:

Historically it has been the job of centrists and leftists to kill Nazis in droves. Nothing has changed.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Covok posted:

So, is there any sign the backlash is continuing? My main question for asking is that we live in a news cycle that only last so long before being replaced. I'm worried that we might be reaching the end of this particular cycle. My issue with that is this is so hosed up this shouldn't be a cycle. A woman loving died to Nazis and I'm afraid we're reaching that point where centrist and liberals try to pretend that everything's fine and they can not care anymore. That they did their part and they liked that thing on Facebook and racism is over and they can move on to their favorite TV show again.

Any sign that this is different?

I'm quoting myself because I worry that today is a potential for the Nazis to turn this around in their favor. Trump has gone back to condemning the left and venerating the right and the Nazis over the massacre in Virginia.

Those people earlier that I mentioned personally being able to recognize the terror and holder of the event and telling them they need to denounce it if they don't want to be blamed for, have completely flip-flopped and now feel that they are being persecuted and that the left is to blame for the violence.

I think that the president personally flip-flopping mixed with a right-wing media getting a few days to use its narrative has turned a lot of the moderate right to supporting the Nazi violence. They are not taking ownership like they were before and, while politicians are still condemning it, people I unfortunately used to associated with seem to be falling for it.

It also seems to be the case and more and more Facebook memes blaming the left are propagating. As well as Imgur and Twitter.

I think the president's inability to condemn white supremacist and turned back to supporting them today and go so far as to blame the left the violence has led to the right accepting that as the new message and most of them seem on board.

I'm quoting because I said that the backlash might die down soon which is horrifying to think that someone dying only managed to keep it for a few days. Now, while there still seems to be media and political backsplash, looks like the public is no longer going for it and it's which direction when it comes to the right wing.

Add this on top of the doj trying to get information on protesters and the fact that those who heroically destroyed that statue got arrested today while the ones who savagely beat that man are still walking free and it just sinks in how much we're losing.

BlueBlazer
Apr 1, 2010

QuoProQuid posted:

there is no reality where i read the deranged screed of some rando on 4chan

15 min a day. Sorry internet dads.

Burt Buckle
Sep 1, 2011

Lightning Knight posted:

Says the company that hired Jeffery Lord. Weak, CNN, weak.

Is there any perfect left candidate or source that is immune to posts like this? I feel like the loving New York Times could post screen caps of the piss tape and somebody would say 'yeah well they had that lovely opinion article from a conservative.' Bernie himself could take a katana and run through a field of nazis and somebody would say, 'yeah but he's got regressive views on Israel'

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

WampaLord posted:

Even I, who loves to pick on the centrists here, will admit that now is not the time to be debating leftists vs centrists. When (hell, if) we have primaries for 2018, we can have the argument then.

Until then, we need to all present a united front against fascism.
Yes, we do. And part of that is acknowledging that, whatever your beef with antifascists on matters of ideology or methods, they are not as bad as literal fascists. And that includes, when they are being attacked by idiots in the media and the loving POTUS for being "just as bad", saying "uh, no, they aren't". Which Mitt Romney of all people managed to do, and which Hillary Clinton has not.

If you can't even clear that bar then I think talking about a united front is pointless. There is no point in allying with people who will alternate between pretending you don't exist, claiming credit for your accomplishments, and insisting you're as bad as the actual opposition. That is counterproductive to the goal of defeating fascists.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Kilroy posted:

Yes, we do. And part of that is acknowledging that, whatever your beef with antifascists on matters of ideology or methods, they are not as bad as literal fascists. And that includes, when they are being attacked by idiots in the media and the loving POTUS for being "just as bad", saying "uh, no, they aren't". Which Mitt Romney of all people managed to do, and which Hillary Clinton has not.

If you can't even clear that bar then I think talking about a united front is pointless. There is no point in allying with people who will alternate between pretending you don't exist, claiming credit for your accomplishments, and insisting you're as bad as the actual opposition. That is counterproductive to the goal of defeating fascists.

You're being ridiculous.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
https://twitter.com/jaredowens/status/897590129832771584

Trump got knocked back from a casino proposal in the 80s in Australia due to mafia ties :toot:

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

maskenfreiheit posted:

Why would we want new users? Have you read Reddit lately?

I wouldn't mind the "tumblr crew" back, their tenure running GBS was probably my favorite

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Lightning Knight posted:

Let's be real here.

If anybody is HIllary Clinton, it's Jefferson Clay. :colbert:

In a surprise twist, it's evilweasel.

She even has legal training! :tinfoil:

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Burt Buckle posted:

Bernie himself could take a katana and run through a field of nazis and somebody would say, 'yeah but he's got regressive views on Israel'

Lol the most accurate post.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Fulchrum posted:

No, his way was twirling.

Monica Lewinsky went on Leno or Letterman once and told the nation Clinton was definitely a centrist.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Fulchrum posted:

That was a really stupid episode of DBZ.

Well, stupider than usual.


Actually...it was a movie.


:goonsay:


Though, agreed it was incredibly stupid.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

JBP posted:

Lol the most accurate post.

It wasn't authentic hanzo steel

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe
HuffPo is a lovely rag halfway about hollywood, but man, when they knock a headline out of the park they swing hard.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
To anyone who isn't that dumbfuck Kilroy, I think you can pretty easily figure out the legal reasons why a public official cannot send out a message saying "Go out and punch Nazis in the face" if they are in a position where that could be legally proven to be be directing people to do it.

Do any Antifa actually feel that way? Like, they see people like Sanders or Hillary or Tom Perez praising all people standing up to Nazis, and feel insulted they specifically didn't get praised? Or do they understand they are a part of those who oppose white supremacists and take the praise as its intended? Its a big group, I know, but have there been any people speaking out saying "where's our praise?"

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Burt Buckle posted:

Is there any perfect left candidate or source that is immune to posts like this? I feel like the loving New York Times could post screen caps of the piss tape and somebody would say 'yeah well they had that lovely opinion article from a conservative.' Bernie himself could take a katana and run through a field of nazis and somebody would say, 'yeah but he's got regressive views on Israel'

CNN was pretty loving craven w/r/t Trump during the campaign. They've dug themselves partway out of their hole over the past few months, but they still deserve to eat a lot of poo poo for the "Let's broadcast an empty Trump podium and hope something happens!:downs:" idiocy.

Also he's right, Jeffrey Lord should have been fired for being a white supremacist a long-rear end time ago.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Kilroy posted:

That is pretty much my central thesis (the "dems suck" part certainly not the "voting GOP" part), and I wish I could say I was shocked at the pushback I'm getting from it in this trainwreck of the thread. Alas.

Hahaha you're literally asking me to sacrifice my right to have an abortion to give the Right a chance to enforce "unity"

Mods, I need a 24-48 hour ban because I am earnestly telling this Kilroy character to loving kill himself.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Burt Buckle posted:

Is there any perfect left candidate or source that is immune to posts like this? I feel like the loving New York Times could post screen caps of the piss tape and somebody would say 'yeah well they had that lovely opinion article from a conservative.' Bernie himself could take a katana and run through a field of nazis and somebody would say, 'yeah but he's got regressive views on Israel'

CNN isn't "a left source," they're a multi-million dollar multinational corporation that happily poo poo on Hillary last year and downplayed the threat represented by candidate Trump. Likewise, New York Times isn't just "a paper that publishes conservative stuff sometimes," even their liberal contributors write remarkably awful stories and headlines and they were the leading light of the "liberal papers establishing their credentials as nonpartisan media by making GBS threads on Hillary Clinton" movement last year.

We're not talking about elected representatives, we're talking about corporate media that would love nothing more than to crush anyone to the left of Mitt Romney.

vaginite
Feb 8, 2006

I'm comin' for you, colonel.



Kilroy posted:

Yes, we do. And part of that is acknowledging that, whatever your beef with antifascists on matters of ideology or methods, they are not as bad as literal fascists. And that includes, when they are being attacked by idiots in the media and the loving POTUS for being "just as bad", saying "uh, no, they aren't". Which Mitt Romney of all people managed to do, and which Hillary Clinton has not.

If you can't even clear that bar then I think talking about a united front is pointless. There is no point in allying with people who will alternate between pretending you don't exist, claiming credit for your accomplishments, and insisting you're as bad as the actual opposition. That is counterproductive to the goal of defeating fascists.

You must be very lonely

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

palm beach county comptroller here, and i say go out and punch nazi i nthe face

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

The Glumslinger posted:

Russians suck and Hillary sucked at campaigning

There, we all suck now

Lets suck our way towards a better future :buddy:



Edit; I could have phrased that better

No, I do not think you could.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Three days after a Blood and Soil march and with a president who has three times nodded support to men carrying full-sized NSDAP banners, you want to make this about Hillary, Kilroy.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


You've done hosed up.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

Potato Salad posted:

Hahaha you're literally asking me to sacrifice my right to have an abortion to give the Right a chance to enforce "unity"

Mods, I need a 24-48 hour ban because I am earnestly telling this Kilroy character to loving kill himself.
Uh, what? Seriously what are you talking about.

I am not asking you to give up any rights. Nor am I asking you to give the Right a chance to do anything at all.

Fulchrum posted:

To anyone who isn't that dumbfuck Kilroy, I think you can pretty easily figure out the legal reasons why a public official cannot send out a message saying "Go out and punch Nazis in the face" if they are in a position where that could be legally proven to be be directing people to do it.

Do any Antifa actually feel that way? Like, they see people like Sanders or Hillary or Tom Perez praising all people standing up to Nazis, and feel insulted they specifically didn't get praised? Or do they understand they are a part of those who oppose white supremacists and take the praise as its intended? Its a big group, I know, but have there been any people speaking out saying "where's our praise?"
https://twitter.com/IndivisibleTeam/status/896756106554470401

now gently caress off forever

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Mr Interweb posted:

Actually...it was a movie.


:goonsay:


Though, agreed it was incredibly stupid.

False!

Fusion Reborn is one of the better DBZ movies, along with The World's Strongest and The Dead Zone.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

WampaLord posted:

Even I, who loves to pick on the centrists here, will admit that now is not the time to be debating leftists vs centrists. When (hell, if) we have primaries for 2018, we can have the argument then.

While I broadly agree, when you see tweets like this...

https://twitter.com/armandodkos/status/896799930861465600

...in response to a leftist getting mowed down by a fascist, it's kind of tough not be a little outraged.

Mystic Mongol
Jan 5, 2007

Your life's been thrown in disarray already--I wouldn't want you to feel pressured.


College Slice

Covok posted:

Those people earlier that I mentioned personally being able to recognize the terror and holder of the event and telling them they need to denounce it if they don't want to be blamed for, have completely flip-flopped and now feel that they are being persecuted and that the left is to blame for the violence.

It breaks my heart that my next door neighbor, a naturalized WW2 Royal Air Force pilot who battled his way across the skies of Europe, thinks the violence was Black Lives Matter's fault for going to Virginia looking for a fight. I got a pretty good spiel out contrasting a group that wants to not get shot by the police is not equivalent to a group that wants to kill every non-white on the planet, but he just asked me if I was making things up, and then shrugged and said we'd have to have differing opinions.

I'm a thirty four year old man, I shouldn't have thought I was living next to a super hero, but I guess I always did. Listening to him blame those "young blacks" for killing Heather Hayer was really painful.

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Majorian posted:

CNN was pretty loving craven w/r/t Trump during the campaign. They've dug themselves partway out of their hole over the past few months, but they still deserve to eat a lot of poo poo for the "Let's broadcast an empty Trump podium and hope something happens!:downs:" idiocy.

Also he's right, Jeffrey Lord should have been fired for being a white supremacist a long-rear end time ago.

If a relative went from trump voter to trump detractor, would you feel the need to point out "gently caress you, you voted for him. Too little too late!" Every time they mentioned how lovely he is?

Do you think that helps?

Whydemslose.txt

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Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Covok posted:

False!

Fusion Reborn is one of the better DBZ movies, along with The World's Strongest and The Dead Zone.

I meant that specific portion of it.


edit: I wanted to post all day after hearing Trump's newest lovely comments, but couldn't muster exactly what to say. Yet here I am, finally getting the opportunity to do so, and it has to be about loving Dragonball Z. Must be some kind of defense mechanism to make me cope with the reality of a country led by Trump. :smith:

Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Aug 16, 2017

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