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CommieGIR posted:When its "Nazis versus Anti-Fascists" you really do have to pick one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7mRG88KPbA
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cakesmith handyman posted:I wouldn't say "against fascism" is an extreme position Its not, but apparently some people think there's centrism to be found there.
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Aug 18, 2017 13:12
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CommieGIR posted:The global economy hasn't failed at all. That's bullshit, right off. The Internet is living proof of that. you make some very good points and tbh i think we're talking about the same thing only you say "right" and the things you attribute to it makes me think "neoliberalism". but it's not just the right, but centrists and parts of the left are in on it to. while neoliberalism has caused our economy to crash, id argue that the internet itself and other information technologies is what is actually destroying capitalism. i agree that radical reform needs to happen to address these issues
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Aug 18, 2017 13:16
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And down under we're STILL arguing about same sex marriage, and are holding a $120M POSTAL, non binding opinion poll on it and trying to work out how many of our current politicians have dual nationalities and aren't eligible to be In parliament. You guys are REALLY putting our problems into perspective
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Aug 18, 2017 13:17
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fridge corn posted:you make some very good points and tbh i think we're talking about the same thing only you say "right" and the things you attribute to it makes me think "neoliberalism". but it's not just the right, but centrists and parts of the left are in on it to. Clinton was a Neoliberal, but even she recognized that we were not saving Coal Jobs, but needed to provide job training for coal employees so they could move onto new jobs. That's kind of the difference between Neoliberals and the Right: Neoliberals are war hawks like the Right, but tend to actually provide solutions for issues like job market shifts, whereas the Right just says "Its all those Illegals and Globalism taking your jobs, get mad!" without providing an out for their constituents AND cutting the social programs that are helping them All coal country people heard was "OMG She hates coal!" rather than "Oh, yeah, coal is dying and we need to find a way out before our communities disappear". There's no saving the horse and buggy industry. The GOP loves appealing to Tradition and Community while ignoring that there is no reality in saving doomed industries that are being outmoded and replaced by gas and green energy.
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Aug 18, 2017 13:23
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CommieGIR posted:Its not, but apparently some people think there's centrism to be found there. TT specifically said "conservatives." If you equate "conservative" with "Nazi," then you're really off the deep end. Like Ferremit said, there's a whole lot of other issues than a micro-percentage of actual Nazi/White Supremecists rearing their ugly heads.
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Aug 18, 2017 13:24
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Seminal Flu posted:TT specifically said "conservatives." If you equate "conservative" with "Nazi," then you're really off the deep end. Maybe they should denounce them a little louder then? In the end, at least in the US, it doesn't matter: The GOP spent 8+ years cultivating white supremacist groups and mixing them in with groups like the Tea Party and others, they helped create the god damned mess and did NOTHING to stop it from perpetuating at their own National Convention, while giving voices to people like Bannon, Miller, Spencer, and Gorka. So, yes, there is a problem with Conservatives as well. Its not like the KKK is voting Democrat these days, and there's good reason why. As long as the GOP continues to support Trump and his advisers with their oh so obvious white supremacist ties, it remains a Conservative problem. Now, that's not to say all conservatives are white supremacists. I have no doubt, most are not. But much like the people who claimed ignorance of Trumps associations and voted for him, you don't get to split hairs. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Aug 18, 2017 |
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Aug 18, 2017 13:28
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Seminal Flu posted:TT specifically said "conservatives." If you equate "conservative" with "Nazi," then you're really off the deep end. Most conservatives care more about taxes than they do about other people's well being a lot of conservatives are currently very quiet about the whole nazi thing when they were real vocal about a black football player not standing for the national anthem or whatever i'm not accusing all of them of being white supremacists but i am saying the silence is deafening
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Aug 18, 2017 13:28
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:i'm not accusing all of them of being white supremacists but i am saying the silence is deafening Basically my stance.
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Aug 18, 2017 13:35
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CommieGIR posted:Clinton was a Neoliberal, but even she recognized that we were not saving Coal Jobs, but needed to provide job training for coal employees so they could move onto new jobs. That's kind of the difference between Neoliberals and the Right: Neoliberals are war hawks like the Right, but tend to actually provide solutions for issues like job market shifts, whereas the Right just says "Its all those Illegals and Globalism taking your jobs, get mad!" without providing an out for their constituents AND cutting the social programs that are helping them Neoliberalism doesn't incentivise green energy because neoliberalism is only concerned with short term goals. gas is only coming to the forefront because it is now cheaper to extract than coal and oil, it's only by coincidence that gas is slightly cleaner to burn. all the major energy companys values are calculated with the amount of energy reserves they possess, but something like 70% of those energy reserves are unburnable if we are to stay below the 2*c temp rise, so what is the true value of these corporations? that's how out of step our economy is with the crises facing humanity. the alt right and nazism and jihadism needs to be fought tooth and nail every step of the way but neoliberalism is a greater existential threat to our civilisation
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Aug 18, 2017 13:39
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luckily for us there is a huge overlap of right wingers and neolibs so i think we're on the same side 
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Aug 18, 2017 13:40
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Olympic mathlete stop picking on Nissan's pr team!
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Aug 18, 2017 14:31
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Yo it's STR's birthday so let's talk about that because politics suck. Happy birthday STR!
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:if you say "the white race and the male gender are in danger" enough times for long enough you're eventually going to get a lot of people to agree with you When the left lumps everyone that isn't a hammer and sickle commie into the same pot, eventually people are gonna say "ok. gently caress you too then." Thus, Trump. ilkhan fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Aug 18, 2017 |
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Aug 18, 2017 16:01
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ilkhan posted:I have no sympathy at all for the actual Nazis, but the last 10 years of being a straight white male and having *everything* be my fault, despite treating everyone equally, being from an area of the country which *never* condoned slaves as far as I know), and not knowing anyone who knew anyone who owned slaves, is really loving tiring. Imagine that but 200 years and being anything but a straight white male. That should get you on the right path. Edit: oh and instead of "is really loving tiring" it's "and people are trying to kill me or run me out of town." Source: I'm a straight white male. edit again: happy birthday STR 
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Aug 18, 2017 16:07
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ilkhan posted:I have no sympathy at all for the actual Nazis, but the last 10 years of being a straight white male and having *everything* be my fault, despite treating everyone equally, being from an area of the country which *never* condoned slaves as far as I know), and not knowing anyone who knew anyone who owned slaves, is really loving tiring. Boo-hoo. As a straight white male, get over it Edit; +1 to what scuz said. Also, HAPPY BIRTHDAY STR! stone soup fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Aug 18, 2017 |
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Aug 18, 2017 16:15
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scuz posted:Imagine that but 200 years and being anything but a straight white male. That should get you on the right path. Edit: oh and instead of "is really loving tiring" it's "and people are trying to kill me or run me out of town." Unless you want to go back to tribalism you're still wrong. Wally Joyner posted:Boo-hoo. As a straight white male, get over it And yes, happy birthday STR. ilkhan fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Aug 18, 2017 |
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Aug 18, 2017 16:19
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Oh, FFS guys, it was just a pathetic whine from me about everything is poo poo At least save a multi-page derail for when I actually say anything profound (don't hold your breath).
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Aug 18, 2017 16:22
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ilkhan posted:Have you lunches anyone today? Have you run anyone out of town? We stopped punishing people for the sins of their fathers a long time ago. nobody's blaming you personally all they're asking of you is to be cognizant of the issues faced by those marginalised by society and be self aware of how your thoughts and actions relate to that
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ilkhan posted:Have you lunches anyone today? Have you run anyone out of town? We stopped punishing people for the sins of their fathers a long time ago. So if you've been getting tired out by all this persecution over the last ten years, you don't have one bit of empathy for those who've gone through way worse for way longer? Not even an itty bitty bit? fridge corn posted:nobody's blaming you personally all they're asking of you is to be cognizant of the issues faced by those marginalised by society and be self aware of how your thoughts and actions relate to that
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Aug 18, 2017 16:23
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ilkhan posted:Have you lunches anyone today? Have you run anyone out of town? We stopped punishing people for the sins of their fathers a long time ago. Hahahahahahahaha How The gently caress Is White Male Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha *I am the straightest whitest cis-gendered male so unfortunately I am of your people
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Now that's a title. Happy birthday STR. I hope you are off doing more classy things than internet posting.
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Aug 18, 2017 16:29
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ilkhan posted:Cool. So you want 8 years of trump. Got it.
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ilkhan posted:Have you lynched anyone today? Have you run anyone out of town? We stopped punishing people for the sins of their fathers a long time ago.  Love, another white guy. There is zero reason to allow the poo poo we saw in C'Ville from the Nazis and KKK to continue, until it stops and we stop allowing it to perpetuate, it will remain a problem that must be countered ilkhan posted:When the left lumps everyone that isn't a hammer and sickle commie into the same pot, eventually people are gonna say "ok. gently caress you too then." Thus, Trump. C'mon now. Are you really serious here? This is a really pathetic response. Nobody I know does this. Ironically, the Right lumps every Socialist (i.e like me, a Social Democrat) into Communism like you just did, so it goes both ways now doesn't it. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Aug 18, 2017 |
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Aug 18, 2017 17:16
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ilkhan posted:Cool. So you want 8 years of trump. Got it. S'ok. I leave for Ukraine sept 18 for a while. Happy fuckin birthday STR. PM me for your big hot load that needs to be mailed off 
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Aug 18, 2017 17:19
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cursedshitbox posted:You know this shits going to happen. Now that palpatines followers are out... Airdrop your truck and tools out the back of your flight when you're over the UK please.
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Aug 18, 2017 17:30
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 With the vitriol on both sides, I'm banning political chat in AI. This is an automotive subforum of a comedy forum. If you want to talk politics, go to D&D. Yes, especially in the chat thread.
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Aug 18, 2017 17:32
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What's ya'll favorite fried chicken recipe or restaurant?
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Aug 18, 2017 17:33
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cakesmith handyman posted:Airdrop your truck and tools out the back of your flight when you're over the UK please. gently caress that i'll just weld 35 drums to the side and boat it over.
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Aug 18, 2017 17:37
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Adiabatic posted:
Thank you. Now let's get back to STR's birthday
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Adiabatic posted:
d&d is really bad tho
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Aug 18, 2017 17:47
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Adiabatic posted:
fridge corn posted:d&d is really bad tho
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Adiabatic posted:
Oh my god thank you so much. fridge corn posted:d&d is really bad tho But when it leaks into AI it makes AI bad as well, hth.
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Aug 18, 2017 17:56
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Happy birthday STR!
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Aug 18, 2017 17:58
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Applebees Appetizer posted:But when it leaks into AI it makes AI bad as well, hth. actually its the only time this thread is interesting in the slightest
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Anyone play guitar? I've been using a Yamaha FG800 for the past few months to try and learn some Flamenco and other Spanish riffs. Also been working on Nancy Wilson's intro to Crazy On You. It's rough with the narrow neck of a steel-string acoustic, and the steel strings sure buzz a bunch it's actually because I'm really bad Anywho, I've been hitting up guitar shops in the area trying out some legit classical guitars recently. This morning I bought me a used Cordoba C7-CE on eBay. I'm so loving stoked 
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fridge corn posted:actually its the only time this thread is interesting in the slightest Hi please quit talking about politics in AI.
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Adiabatic posted:Anyone play guitar? It used to be 58 but somehow I completely lost a bass guitar. Im guessing my brother pawned it and I just never noticed because seriously how do you lose a guitar.
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Adiabatic posted:Anyone play guitar? if your strings are buzzing it may be your action is set too low
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