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Covok posted:The thing that weakens this is that I seriously have never heard of half these councils and agencies before they all mass resign. I mean, sure, it's great that Trump will soon live in an empty white house, but, also, who? Like, how is this weakening him? Part of his appeal is, ostensibly, his ties to business and how much business people love him. If tons of business people jump ship it hurts his brand there. Beyond that, eh. Like to be fair I don't think the arts committee means much. edit: computer google accelerationist dog 
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Covok posted:The thing that weakens this is that I seriously have never heard of half these councils and agencies before they all mass resign. I mean, sure, it's great that Trump will soon live in an empty white house, but, also, who? Like, how is this weakening him? Symbolism is powerful. Remember that Trump doesn't do a lot in the first place. So being seen as abandoning him in a show of disgust and solidarity is almost as powerful as actually being a real council that is advising him and abandoning him anyway. A good portion of Americans think these councils do things after all instead of just being symbolic. Also, and this is important, while these councils don't do anything, the individuals who make up these councils consult and are consulted by the government. So it's not just for show.
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Ague Proof posted:The book/movie of this administration ends with Trump in the White House, utterly alone, sitting at the Resolute Desk tweeting. Then, he slowly pulls a gun out from the top drawer of the desk. Puts it to his head and a white flag with "Fake News" on it pops up and goes through his ears. The looney tunes music plays while Porky Pig goes "t-t-t-that's all folks!" I always preferred the absurdist take on political satire.
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Who could have predicted Trump being a big dumb orange rear end in a top hat? Where were the signs?!
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Invalid Validation posted:Who could have predicted Trump being a big dumb orange rear end in a top hat? Where were the signs?! That was all Bannon. Now that he's gone Kelly will finally be able to discipline him.
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Ice Phisherman posted:Symbolism is powerful. Remember that Trump doesn't do a lot in the first place. So being seen as abandoning him in a show of disgust and solidarity is almost as powerful as actually being a real council that is advising him and abandoning him anyway. A good portion of Americans think these councils do things after all instead of just being symbolic. Also, and this is important, while these councils don't do anything, the individuals who make up these councils consult and are consulted by the government. So it's not just for show. I can see that. I do remember some guy on MSNBC with glasses mocking Trump as "the businessman president that business can't run away from fast enough." Is there a single promise Trump has managed to keep in office?
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quote:2nd edit: Also there's really no guarantee that out of the ruins of apocalyptic capitalism you're going to get a glorious socialist revolution, instead of the normal hardcore reactionary bullshit like Hitler. Better instead to have the revolution first. suppose you just make sure Antifa's ready to play their role day 1
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TGLT posted:Part of his appeal is, ostensibly, his ties to business and how much business people love him. If tons of business people jump ship it hurts his brand there. Beyond that, eh. Like to be fair I don't think the arts committee means much. They're still blows to his ego, though. Trump hates to be upstaged and hates any sign people don't like him or want to work for him. That's why he's been trying to jump in front of this stuff with his "They can't quit, I already fired them!" routine.
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Covok posted:Is there a single promise Trump has managed to keep in office? He did promise we'd be tired of all the winning. "You'll be saying, no Mr. Trump, it's too much winning!" He's not wrong.
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Covok posted:I can see that. I do remember some guy on MSNBC with glasses mocking Trump as "the businessman president that business can't run away from fast enough." Is there a single promise Trump has managed to keep in office? Deported a shitload of people Pulled out of Paris accords TPP i guess but all of the candidates were against that Gorsuch (lol)
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Uglycat posted:suppose you just make sure Antifa's ready to play their role day 1 The collapse of a system doesn't mean the eradication of everyone's wealth and power. When poo poo goes south people who were powerful prior to that collapse will still be powerful, and accelerationism just means they're even more powerful. Plus a glorious socialist revolution post-collapse is a promise for a better future going up against Up And Coming Feudal Lord's promise of bread and safety. Easy to figure out where people are most likely to fall en masse. I can't think of a situation in history where the total collapse of a government led to things getting better instead of just worse. Plus if you've got a revolution ready to bring war to the capitalist system, why don't you just do that instead of loving up a ton of people's lives first? Cythereal posted:They're still blows to his ego, though. Trump hates to be upstaged and hates any sign people don't like him or want to work for him. That's why he's been trying to jump in front of this stuff with his "They can't quit, I already fired them!" routine. Oh for sure, which at least makes it all very fun.
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Pellisworth posted:what does this mean It's a stupid game of linking to each other's tweets with clickbait headlines so you'll dig down to a person saying she finds it funny to do that. A bunch of journalists decided to join in.
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I went down this rabbit hole. I do not regret it. So, uh, why was Alex Jones yelling at randos on the streets of Seattle today?
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I went down this rabbit hole. I do not regret it. To do a false flag to show how wimpy and evil the alt-left is.
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Uglycat posted:So if someone came up to you in, say, October, let's say someone that hoped Bernie would win the DNC, and they say to you 'I'd actually rather see Trump as president than Hillary; I actually think Trump will gently caress everything up in just the right way as to allow the Glorious Revolution to take place!'; Accelerationist or nay? I'd call them an idiot both times, as someone who loves Bernie too. But, I guess the Trump presidency has turned out, in some ways, less bad than I would have predicted last November. He's just not a leader and one of the most incompetent people to hold office, and little of the rightwing agenda is being accomplished. We might actually have a better chance at flipping a bunch of nationwide offices that we would not have under Clinton, as well as possibly moving the DNC left (yea right).
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I went down this rabbit hole. I do not regret it.
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"Globalist" Gary Cohn and Mnuchin are lending their jewishness to help a Nazi sympathizer gain credibility.
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Mantis42 posted:I'd call them an idiot both times, as someone who loves Bernie too. But, I guess the Trump presidency has turned out, in some ways, less bad than I would have predicted last November. He's just not a leader and one of the most incompetent people to hold office, and little of the rightwing agenda is being accomplished. We might actually have a better chance at flipping a bunch of nationwide offices that we would not have under Clinton, as well as possibly moving the DNC left (yea right). so, they're an idiot who through dumb luck might have been right?
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Covok posted:Then, he slowly pulls a gun out from the top drawer of the desk. Puts it to his head and a white flag with "Fake News" on it pops up and goes through his ears. The looney tunes music plays while Porky Pig goes "t-t-t-that's all folks!" When you make a good joke you can really hit it out of the park. The covoking has to stop though. It's a menace to my default easygoing ways. Pictured here: 
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Uglycat posted:so, they're an idiot who through dumb luck might have been right? Eh, kind of playing counterfactuals at that point. The movement to remove confederate monuments has been going on since before Trump's presidency. As has the conservative meme of running over protestors. Trump has certainly emboldened neo-nazis, but it's hard to say if that was necessary for them to act this way or not. Also hard to say if the only way to convince people poo poo's bad is a nazi running over innocent people.
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Eli strikes again, #drawingthenews Trump fires Steven Bannon. Art by Eli Neugeboren Not quite as good as the Goblin Kellyanne Conway though.
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TGLT posted:Eh, kind of playing counterfactuals at that point. The movement to remove confederate monuments has been going on since before Trump's presidency. As has the conservative meme of running over protestors. Trump has certainly emboldened neo-nazis, but it's hard to say if that was necessary for them to act this way or not. Also hard to say if the only way to convince people poo poo's bad is a nazi running over innocent people. but you definitely would /not/ entertain, for example, the thought 'holy poo poo, they called it and I called them an idiot but maybe they were /right/!'? Or am I misunderstanding you.
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Covok posted:The thing that weakens this is that I seriously have never heard of half these councils and agencies before they all mass resign. I mean, sure, it's great that Trump will soon live in an empty white house, but, also, who? Like, how is this weakening him? A lot of this stuff is just plain mundane stuff that concerns dry material in the day to day operations of the United States federal government. In a way it's nice to have these things, which are usually abstracted from a typical person, come to light because it at least partially dispels the garbage narrative that we're some 'small town Main Street' type joint with the old-timey lunch counter and general store. We're a country of 320 some odd million people that spans 2.6 million square miles of land, is industrially advanced and contains like 4 thousand some-odd distinct municipalities and equivalent stitched into a federal republic with 50 distinct State entities. That takes a lot of heavy loving lifting by a huge number of people and constructs to support.
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actionjackson posted:lol Bannon was involved in that Biosphere thing from the 90s? Hilarious. https://www.wired.com/2016/09/trumps-campaign-ceos-little-known-world-warcraft-career/
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Covok posted:You know, I was wondering why you was wearing a WWE shirt. I didn't think the guy runs a wrestling show. But that's great. He is the Ringmaster for the "World Extreme Pencil Fighting League". Its a very very Seattle thing that somehow manages to be substantially faker than normal wrestling. Wikipedia posted:Pencil fighting typically involves two players attempting to break one-another's pencils.[1] Players take turns in which one player holds their pencil horizontally with both hands while the other player flicks their pencil at it in attempts to break it.[1] The first player to break the other's pencil is the winner.[2] Foul plays have been suggested, such as intentionally hitting a player on the fingers, dropping the pencil, and missing the pencil when striking.[2] When a foul has occurred, the offender may be required to allow a free extra strike against their pencil.[2] Edit: Beaten badly Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Aug 19, 2017 |
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Uglycat posted:but you definitely would /not/ entertain, for example, the thought 'holy poo poo, they called it and I called them an idiot but maybe they were /right/!'? Broken clocks and all that. The idea that things getting horrendously worse leading to a better future is ill-supported historically, as is the idea that it's the only way to get people to agitate for their rights. For an accelerationist to actually call it, they need to prove their claim that poo poo getting worse is both necessary and sufficient, as well as their claim that it would then lead to things getting better instead of worse as is normal. And also that this would all be better than just actively working to improve the world and tear down lovely systems, despite how it will lead to innocent people suffering and dying. Like that last bit can't be ignored here, the accelerationist argument is that it's okay to force a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die because you're gambling it'll lead to a better result in the end. edit: Also to be extra clear, the point of that post is just because a thing happened doesn't mean it couldn't happen any other way. Especially not in this instance, when things have been heading towards this moment anyhow. Accelerationism is by its own admission a worsening of people's lives, so if it's not the only way then there's not really a good reason to go down that route.
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Tzen posted:Eli strikes again, Now that's art
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TGLT posted:Part of his appeal is, ostensibly, his ties to business and how much business people love him. If tons of business people jump ship it hurts his brand there. Beyond that, eh. Like to be fair I don't think the arts committee means much. I like the prose attributes, they remind me of Dwarf Fortress. This is the sort of dog that could menace.
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Guy Farting posted:Lmao I got blocked by pixelated boat for saying that Jill Stein is a trash lady The correct term is sanitation engineer.
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