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Murderist posted:Windswept is incredible and I've had multiple workdays spent listening to it on repeat.. If I'm not wrong that was the music playing in that end-of-episode scene where Coop is sadly admiring the lawman statue's shoes? Yes, that's the one. "Windswept" is pretty much Dougie's leitmotif.
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I'm sure I've mentioned this before but the one Missing Pieces scene I think shoulda made it into the movie for sure is the one where Leland teaches Sarah and Laura some Norwegian or the song in Norwegian or whatever it is.
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Escobarbarian posted:I'm sure I've mentioned this before but the one Missing Pieces scene I think shoulda made it into the movie for sure is the one where Leland teaches Sarah and Laura some Norwegian or the song in Norwegian or whatever it is. Is that the cut dinner scene? Because I would definitely want that back in, too. It works so well to see two very different family meals in the Palmer household.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:This show has made me into a huge fan of the Chromatics and Johnny Jewel. I loved "Shadow" and "Windswept," and that led me deeper into their back catalogue (since Jewel is a member of the Chromatics too). His label, Italians Do It Better, has tons of great music, mostly involving him, and the vast majority is REALLY cheap. I'm talking $1 album downloads and $3 CDs. I suspect it would appeal to most of you.
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esperterra posted:Is that the cut dinner scene? Because I would definitely want that back in, too. It works so well to see two very different family meals in the Palmer household. Yep, that's the one. And yeah the contrast between the other one is great, and kind of this one moment of calm showing that they were able to be a family, even for just a brief moment, is very powerful to me.
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The most impactful scene in Missing Pieces to me is the scene between Sarah and Laura where it implies that Sarah knows about the abuse and that it's "happening again" and breaks down. That changes so much about the show for me.
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RBX posted:I love this man. He also has the perfect weird voice that matches the type of poo poo he makes. I've put together a series of videos on twitter about the references to Pascal in the new series. Kind of goes hand in hand with the account posting similarities between his art and The Return.https://twitter.com/Rappin4Safety/status/893636822592389121
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zelah posted:The most impactful scene in Missing Pieces to me is the scene between Sarah and Laura where it implies that Sarah knows about the abuse and that it's "happening again" and breaks down. That changes so much about the show for me. This comes directly after the "Fan scene", to the extent that it's the same scene. Also, what seems to precipitate the "it's happening again" and Sarah breaking down is her looking for her blue sweater while she was already wearing it. I never understood why that would set Sarah Palmer off, exactly.
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kaworu posted:
Yeah, this is basically the only major thing I have found "missing" this season, but like you I have confidence it/they will be featured.
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Maybe Sarah acted the way she did in those scenes because she has a literal monster inside of her?
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kaworu posted:This comes directly after the "Fan scene", to the extent that it's the same scene. Also, what seems to precipitate the "it's happening again" and Sarah breaking down is her looking for her blue sweater while she was already wearing it. I never understood why that would set Sarah Palmer off, exactly. I think it was that she realized she was mentally foggy and maybe that knew it came from being drugged by Leland, and that he did that when he was abusing Laura.
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cis autodrag posted:A lot of my friends have experienced sexual assault and having listened to and supported them through their own stories, FWWM is an intensely powerful movie. Maybe it's not Lynch's best work, but it's about the most emotional true depiction of domestic abuse ever put on screen and some of my friends have said they watching it was like a year of therapy. I agree pretty much. Not that I think the film is perfect, but that it's weakest parts are kind of the extraneous parts separate from Laura's story which were either hampered by production issues (like Kyle MacLachlan barely wanting anything to do with it at the time) or because it never ended up being made into the trilogy Lynch wanted it to be to fill in additional details (one can only guess but I imagine a lot of what we're seeing in season 3 is an evolution of those ideas), but everything as related to Laura is really well done and gives her character a lot of humanity that quite possibly wasn't an option on television at that time, let alone done in the way FWWM did. Also FWWM doesnt really let Leland off the hook, it definitely introduces enough ambiguity just how much agency he really had which furthers into the original show asking how much is BOB just a evil macguffin making people doing bad things or some kind of thing we sum up as the kind of evil we metaphorically sum up what people do to make it more palatable.
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Berke Negri posted:Also FWWM doesnt really let Leland off the hook, it definitely introduces enough ambiguity just how much agency he really had which furthers into the original show asking how much is BOB just a evil macguffin making people doing bad things or some kind of thing we sum up as the kind of evil we metaphorically sum up what people do to make it more palatable. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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Well plenty of posters think Richard just has to be the by-product of Booper cause he's a real bad dude because no one is ever a bad dude when they're a born rich poo poo on super coke in a one Norma's Diner Town, especially from a upstanding line like the Horne family that were only involved with sex trafficking and murder and drugs in the original series. But maybe that'll prove true, we'll all know in three weeks at the most.
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This season opens up the possibility that Mr. C raped Audrey when he supposedly "visited" her shortly after season 2's ending according to Doc Hayward (Which carries plenty of weird implications on its own), but I agree with your general point that it could end up being another example of how the supernatural aspect of the show might be softening the blow too much.
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zelah posted:I think it was that she realized she was mentally foggy and maybe that knew it came from being drugged by Leland, and that he did that when he was abusing Laura. I never understood why in FWWM Sarah so willingly drinks the milk with the drug in it
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Like Ben and Jerry Horne set up a system to funnel girls barely out of high school into a literal borderline illegal brothel for at least how many years? And also claimed "first dibs" on new girls many of which were their employees in a town where working the department store or receptionist desk at great northern is your solid gig if you're a woman. Also hired contract killers to kill people, arsonist to burn down the lumber yard that employed half the town, etc Richard ran over a kid while on drugs though so yeah that's probably booper
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eleven extra elephants posted:I never understood why in FWWM Sarah so willingly drinks the milk with the drug in it I'm gonna say it's probably because she would rather be unconscious than having to actually confront what Leland is doing.
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Berke Negri posted:Like Ben and Jerry Horne set up a system to funnel girls barely out of high school into a literal borderline illegal brothel for at least how many years? And also claimed "first dibs" on new girls many of which were their employees in a town where working the department store or receptionist desk at great northern is your solid gig if you're a woman. Also hired contract killers to kill people, arsonist to burn down the lumber yard that employed half the town, etc Regardless I think Booper really is his dad. Maybe we'll find out.
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Berke Negri posted:Like Ben and Jerry Horne set up a system to funnel girls barely out of high school into a literal borderline illegal brothel for at least how many years? And also claimed "first dibs" on new girls many of which were their employees in a town where working the department store or receptionist desk at great northern is your solid gig if you're a woman. Also hired contract killers to kill people, arsonist to burn down the lumber yard that employed half the town, etc You definitely haven't been paying attention if you think "does bad things too" is the only reason people think Richard is Booper's kid edit: And yes, you're right that people can be evil on their own without having an evil spirit possessing them in Twin Peaks, but being born from a literal walking representation of evil probably would instill some evil in you CJacobs fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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Bummer to see people who haven't even seen FWWM proper talk about how it's improved with a bunch of stuff edited into it by internet randos. I just don't get it, it's like people advocating for the Alan Smithee cut of Dune. The Missing Pieces are cool, they are amazing to have, and it took decades of fans begging and Lynch fighting with rights owners to get them out there. The fact that he got them all color corrected and edited them together into a nice 90-minute package is awesome. He's done that with Blue Velvet and Inland Empire as well, and these featurettes are great compliments to the films themselves. I would advocate that people just let them be what they are, instead of pretending that there are two versions of FWWM.
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Aug 20, 2017 16:10
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The Blue Velvet one is really good. There's an excellent scene where they're sitting around in Sandy's basement watching a tv show about prom queens dragging armchairs on a racetrack.eleven extra elephants posted:I never understood why in FWWM Sarah so willingly drinks the milk with the drug in it the scary finger was thirsty
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chime_on posted:Bummer to see people who haven't even seen FWWM proper talk about how it's improved with a bunch of stuff edited into it by internet randos. I just don't get it, it's like people advocating for the Alan Smithee cut of Dune. Yeah, bummer how I like the version that has some of my favourite scenes in it 
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Is the 2x4 scene available online anywhere? It sounds amazing.
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Hakkesshu posted:Yeah, bummer how I like the version that has some of my favourite scenes in it It's a bummer to me, yes. FWWM is one of the best films of the 90s, and there are people in this thread thinking that they're talking about it, but they're talking about things that are not actually a part of the film. It confuses and obscures the actual art that Lynch created, both with FWWM and TMP.
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eSporks posted:Is the 2x4 scene available online anywhere? It sounds amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txPcLOtbG3s
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I like Twin Peaks but let's not pretend FWWM is anywheres close to top films of the 90s
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Empress Brosephine posted:I like Twin Peaks but let's not pretend FWWM is anywheres close to top films of the 90s Yeah that's hyperbolic. It's not even the top Lynch film of the 90s.
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This should be used as evidence in that lawsuit against Home Depot because their 2x4s aren't actually 2"x4".
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hanales posted:Yeah that's hyperbolic. It's not even the top Lynch film of the 90s. I love all of Lynch's films with the exception of The Elephant Man, which still has plenty to like about it. FWWM to me is neck and neck with Eraserhead for his best film, full stop.
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Hot take: FWWM fan edit with the Missing Pieces is the superior version and is the only one you should watch (has the convenience store scene, the Philip scene, the normal family dinner scene, Big Ed)
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CJacobs posted:You definitely haven't been paying attention if you think "does bad things too" is the only reason people think Richard is Booper's kid Laura wasn't evil just because BOB was in Leland when she was conceived. I think the show wants you to believe that this is what's going on, and I hope that it's actually something else. Richard Horne being evil because his father is evil (and not because of upbringing, just biology) sounds really Eugenics-y to me. Alan_Shore posted:Hot take: FWWM fan edit with the Missing Pieces is the superior version and is the only one you should watch (has the convenience store scene, the Philip scene, the normal family dinner scene, Big Ed) Watching all of season two might bore you, but watching all of FWWM actively angers some folks. Roger Ebert called it "simpleminded and scornful of its audience", and that's certainly how it can feel because it strips Twin Peaks of most things people enjoy. I think it's an interesting film, but it's still a tough sit, no matter how you slice it. Adding the missing pieces can make it more bearable, at least.
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The only part of FWWM that I can remember not caring about is the Donna party stuff.
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I watched FWWM before I started S3 (I had just watched the original series as well) but skipped TMP. Sounds like it has some good stuff though, guess I’ll check it out!
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Breadallelogram posted:The only part of FWWM that I can remember not caring about is the Donna party stuff. The Pink Room? That's got one of Lynch's best tracks (both musically and visually).
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If you take anything in twin peaks as an argument on eugenics I would probably read less into things
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Tolkien minority posted:If you take anything in twin peaks as an argument on eugenics I would probably read less into things One of the "traits" that the use of eugenics was intended to remove from the gene pool was a lack of moral fiber.
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oneforthevine posted:The Pink Room? That's got one of Lynch's best tracks (both musically and visually). Yeah this is probably the most creative scene in the entire film even if it's not my favourite.
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