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Teemu Pokemon posted:I'm submitting my application for full RAS status right now post-dated for the day it's official You can get in ground floor with the Vegas Goldaknights right now! I'm moving from Detroit in a couple weeks so it's an ideal time to start exploring a second team, really.
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JawKnee posted:no I meant why sign with the canucks he's from Vancouver and also it's probably easier to make the NHL on a lovely team
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Jamwad Hilder posted:he's from Vancouver and also it's probably easier to make the NHL on a lovely team His family is also very rich (his Dad was big in software in the 90s and now owns the Vancouver Whitecaps of the MLS), so he's not the type of player who'll ever need to prioritize earnings. His number one goal is probably making it to the NHL as soon as possible, and that's most likely to happen with a crappy team like the Canucks. Given that he's also from the area and had season tickets growing up, it's not impossible for him to consider fulfilling that childhood dream. With that said, I'm from the same town as him, also had season tickets growing up and there's no way I'd sign with the Canucks in his position. He'll likely be into his 30s by the time there's even the slightest chance they'll be good again.
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Aug 22, 2017 14:13
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I'd imagine it's tough to be a hometown player in a Canadian market too.
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Also, it would be great if the Bruins could just give Pastrnak whatever he wants already. Get it done. Come on.
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DJExile posted:Justin Bourne has a neat free article on The Athletic about the difficulty in making tactical adjustments mid-game, or even mid-season Want to rescue this from the bottom of a page because it's really good.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Also, it would be great if the Bruins could just give Pastrnak whatever he wants already. Get it done. Come on. what if what he wants is to play for the new york rangers
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Aug 22, 2017 15:41
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a false posted:what if what he wants is to play for the new york rangers then i am going to kill myself
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Aug 22, 2017 15:55
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Hand Knit posted:Want to rescue this from the bottom of a page because it's really good. Yeah I'm glad Bourne is back to writing because his stuff is always interesting. Also: Crosby is good https://twitter.com/FromTheFaceoff/status/899771668880654336
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Hand Knit posted:Want to rescue this from the bottom of a page because it's really good. I dunno, I agree that in an 82 game schedule it's really hard to get in an adequate amount of time to effectively implement a system mid-season. No one questions that players will have difficulty adapting to a whole new style of play at a game level having barely done it in a controlled setting before. Beyond that, his reasons are "players make mistakes and coaches are afraid to try something new" which are hardly compelling arguments. That's just a roundabout way of reinforcing the risk averse status quo that has permeated all corners of the NHL right now. I don't think anyone thinks that a team should be able to play a variety of wholly different styles to adapt to any given opponent, that's silly. However, what fans take umbrage with is teams that keep doggedly sticking to a style that is objectively not working in very apparent ways. Coaches sometimes resort to just shuffling the lines hoping to get a hit, when it's apparent their whole structure just doesn't work. For a team in the playoff hunt that's fine, but for one languishing at the bottom of the standings what's the harm? I'm a Canucks fan so obviously that's my strongest frame of reference, but I watched my team go through two miserable years where they never won and never changed their strategy or style even slightly. They stuck to the same tired breakout, the same lazy powerplay drop pass, the same high forecheck and rapid regroup into the neutral zone with absolutely no change in results. Perhaps trying a more attacking system just once to try and entertain folks would be good? Maybe don't train the youngsters (those that they bothered to use) to play the same unsuccessful, insipid play style knowing full well it doesn't work? It might not be easy to change styles, but for a handful of teams it's probably necessary to at least try something new occasionally. There's really nothing to lose.
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Thufir posted:Yeah I'm glad Bourne is back to writing because his stuff is always interesting. There's a lot of things about pro players that impress me but the edge work might be thing #1. It is so hard to skate like that and be in complete control of the puck and your body. The body control pro athletes have is just insane, and obviously Crosby is on another level even compared to the average pro with that.
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it's crazy how he makes Marchand, one of the better two-way guys in the league, look stupid multiple times in the video. Maybe Brad's been partying too much this summer.
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That's unrealistic though because in a real game Marchand would be stabbing him way more.
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also for reference the cardiovascular fitness of those two fellows is obscene
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Aphrodite posted:That's unrealistic though because in a real game Marchand would be nut-shotting him way more. Ftfy
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N: https://twitter.com/BlueJacketsNHL/status/899716133569396741 V: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvjwQ8QqUdk&t=253s The first second of that video applies.
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Aphrodite posted:That's unrealistic though because in a real game Marchand would be stabbing him way more. yeah after about the second or third spin Sid would either be getting speared in the nuts or low bridged.
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Aug 22, 2017 16:46
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zetterberg told swedish media he's only playing two more seasons in detroit then loving off to sweden https://www.clickondetroit.com/sports/report-henrik-zetterberg-will-leave-detroit-before-contract-ends-then-go-home-to-sweden
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exact quote: "in a coupl'a years imma prolly gently caress off to sweden"
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If the NHL wasn't run by a bunch of dweebs someone should have offersheeted the gently caress out of Athanasiou by now. Detroit is hosed in cap space
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Levitate posted:If the NHL wasn't run by a bunch of dweebs someone should have offersheeted the gently caress out of Athanasiou by now. Detroit is hosed in cap space They'd match and Kronwall would suffer one of those mysterious injuries that require immediate LTIR out of the blue.
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gently caress Ken Holland
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Which will be worse in 2019-20? 5m+ in cap recapture for Zetterberg, or 7m+ in age 35+ Ericsson/Daley?
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Aug 22, 2017 19:08
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The Zetterburg contract was still really loving good even if they have to pay recapture later on. 68 points last year and 499 over the past 8 years, all for 6m? Steal.
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ThinkTank posted:They'd match and Kronwall would suffer one of those mysterious injuries that require immediate LTIR out of the blue. I think you mean "allergy"
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I don't see how recapture doesn't get negotiated away during the next lockout/circumvented with LTIR
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A Typical Goon posted:The Zetterburg contract was still really loving good even if they have to pay recapture later on. 68 points last year and 499 over the past 8 years, all for 6m? Steal. Seriously. That zetterberg deal was a steal for the wings. They knew drat well he wasn't going to play it out and it was still the right call to sign that deal when they did.
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The cap recapture rule being applied retroactively is stupid. None of the players who signed these contracts expected to play the years they're getting paid $1m for. The league made that rule after rejecting the Kovalchuk contract, and teams made these contracts to abide by that rule.
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Zodijackylite posted:The cap recapture rule being applied retroactively is stupid. None of the players who signed these contracts expected to play the years they're getting paid $1m for. It's not punishing them though, it's punishing the teams that would otherwise have faced no consequences for cheating the cap. edit: If, instead of retiring, recapture makes these guys go on "LTIR" and collect a few extra million bucks, they're actually benefiting from it.
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cant wait for the final couple years of the weber contract to start  holmgren should go in the hhof for that offer sheet alone
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Thufir posted:It's not punishing them though, it's punishing the teams that would otherwise have faced no consequences for cheating the cap. The cap recapture penalties and the contract length limits were put in place to prevent teams from signing absurd, back-diving contracts in the future. I'm pretty sure that the NHL won't care if the players who are currently signed to those contracts just end up getting put on LTIR when they want to retire.
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Zetterberg isn't going on LTIR, though, he's probably going to play in Sweden. I just think that retroactively applying rules like this is really lovely. On the other hand, the Red Wings' cap situation is such a mess that this will probably help force the inevitable for the team, and probably Ken Holland, too.
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There should really be a penalty of some sort for admitting a contract was made in bad faith. A last round pick or something.
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grack posted:The cap recapture penalties and the contract length limits were put in place to prevent teams from signing absurd, back-diving contracts in the future. I'm pretty sure that the NHL won't care if the players who are currently signed to those contracts just end up getting put on LTIR when they want to retire. The contract limits prevent the absurd backdiving contracts but the penalties are theoretically to deter GMs from potential future cap fuckery of other types. If the NHL allows obvious LTIR abuse to avoid that it would be allowing cap fuckery to escape the penalties for cap fuckery. Which, it's the NHL so they probably will but it's not like it's inconsequential.
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I meant for contracts signed prior to the current CBA. I thought that would have been obvious.
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deoju posted:There should really be a penalty of some sort for admitting a contract was made in bad faith. A last round pick or something. they tried to do that with taking away the devils 1st round pick for kovy 1.0 and couldnt even stick to their guns on that
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grack posted:I meant for contracts signed prior to the latest CBA. I thought that would have been obvious. Yeah, me too. They should stick to the recapture penalties for those contracts so that GMs get the idea that if, in the future they come up with new and exciting ways to get around the cap, they might end up getting hosed in new and exciting ways if the rest of the league doesn't like it. Zodijackylite posted:
It's kind of brilliant in a way. They're not explicitly punishing them for something that was allowed at the time, which taking away a draft pick would have been. They're not hurting the players or pissing off the NHLPA by changing the terms of the contract. It wouldn't be an issue if they intended the contract to be active to its full term. Thufir fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Aug 22, 2017 |
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The league always had the power to just reject the backdiving contracts in the first place though, it's not like their hands were tied. They chose to approve contracts everyone knew were in bad faith and then decided to punish those parties later.
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I don't see them getting rid of recapture penalty cause it would end up with the players getting more than their 50% share and the owners would never do that even if the GMs are down
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Yo anyone near Philly, the Flyera/Isles rookie game on 9/13 at 7PM at Wells Fargo Center is free parking/free tickets
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