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B | 77 | 25.50% | |
K | 160 | 52.98% | |
M | 65 | 21.52% | |
Total: | 229 votes |
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Fulchrum posted:It's one of the small comforts of the last election that, because of how far Hillary bent over bacwards to accommodate you petulant shits, you end up saying that the most leftist platform in history is nothing, because you keep forgetting the facts of the election and need it to be that mean old Hillary really was a centrist, because otherwise your narrative is fill of poo poo. The most leftist platform wasn't all that leftist it turns out Weird
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:10 |
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WampaLord posted:So which is it? Was it the most leftist platform ever, or should the Dems not make any promises at all because we're children and can't understand that doing things is hard? Wait, what? If you have proven that you are completely and totally incapable of ever dealing with the truth, of course they should lie to you. The Dems respect for voters and leftists in particular was a huge problem in the election, and they need to treat you like chimps.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:12 |
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Fulchrum posted:It's one of the small comforts of the last election that, because of how far Hillary bent over bacwards to accommodate you petulant shits, you end up saying that the most leftist platform in history is nothing, because you keep forgetting the facts of the election and need it to be that mean old Hillary really was a centrist, because otherwise your narrative is fill of poo poo. "We tried lying to you, what more do you want!?" - DNC
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:12 |
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Fulchrum posted:We could power loving China if we could harness how quickly goalposts move when you argue.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:12 |
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Fulchrum posted:Wait, what? If you have proven that you are completely and totally incapable of ever dealing with the truth, of course they should lie to you. The Dems respect for voters and leftists in particular was a huge problem in the election, and they need to treat you like chimps. ah yes that's a good way to get people to vote for you, treat them like absolute dogshit
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:16 |
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Accretionist posted:"We tried telling you the truth, what more do you want!?" BENGHAZI 2 posted:ah yes that's a good way to get people to vote for you, treat them like absolute dogshit What the gently caress do you do to chimps? Why are you abusing monkeys?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:20 |
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Yay, Fulchrum. If there's a ban on BernieXHillary chat in the Trump thread, shouldn't there be a similar Hillbot ban here? Feels like very easymode trolling for some types to pop in, vomit their screeds that would have included the term "alt-left" until last week when Trump appropriated the culture, then scamper back to where they can't be touched.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:20 |
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Fulchrum posted:Wait, what? If you have proven that you are completely and totally incapable of ever dealing with the truth, of course they should lie to you. The Dems respect for voters and leftists in particular was a huge problem in the election, and they need to treat you like chimps. This, ladies and gentlemen, is someone who understands how to GOTV.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:20 |
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Sephyr posted:would have included the term "alt-left" until last week when Trump appropriated the culture
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:21 |
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Sephyr posted:If there's a ban on BernieXHillary chat in the Trump thread, shouldn't there be a similar Hillbot ban here? Can we get a mod to weigh in on this, please? I get constantly yelled at for this in the Trump thread and have been probated for primary chat, can't we get the same thing going on here?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:21 |
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Sephyr posted:Yay, Fulchrum. Do you propose banning all Hillary talk? Or just all Hillary talk that you disagree with? I'm guessing one will fly, the other will not.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:25 |
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I see no reason to copy from the bad dem thread. "No primary chat" is a way for bad dems to pretend the primary had no part to play in the general election. No reason to give them the same comforts here.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:26 |
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Fulchrum posted:but maybe one of the others can recognise the difference between lying and not lying. Even Wall Street knew Hillary's faux attempt at populism was full of poo poo: Also: Hi, Brainiac 5!
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:30 |
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Sephyr posted:Yay, Fulchrum. This place is the garbage dump. You don't get to set standards for what gets put here. You don't seem to grasp the concept of "having any form of opposition other than masturbatory praise from the like minded", and it explains both your intensely stupid ideas of what Obama should have been able to accomplish, and your insistence you shouldn't be challenged in any way here. Bernie x Hillary is a topic and an argument that has been banned from another thread. By contradt, you want to ban people who point out where you are wrong. You are simply trying to eliminate all sides but yours from a topic.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:31 |
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Kilroy posted:I see no reason to copy from the bad dem thread. "No primary chat" is a way for bad dems to pretend the primary had no part to play in the general election. No reason to give them the same comforts here. ditto. unlike the bad dem thread, you can post your opinions on the dems here, popular or not. just no racism and nazis stay out thanks
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:31 |
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Fulchrum posted:your insistence you shouldn't be challenged in any way here
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:32 |
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Kilroy posted:I see no reason to copy from the bad dem thread. "No primary chat" is a way for bad dems to pretend the primary had no part to play in the general election. No reason to give them the same comforts here. I agree for the most part, but I think we can probably do without Fulchrum gimmick-posting compulsively like he does.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:32 |
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Kilroy posted:I see no reason to copy from the bad dem thread. "No primary chat" is a way for bad dems to pretend the primary had no part to play in the general election. No reason to give them the same comforts here. Well at least the trump thread can't monopolize the USPol label and claim that they are the hegemony of acceptable views.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:32 |
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Fulchrum posted:This place is the garbage dump. You don't get to set standards for what gets put here. You're not a mod, you don't get to make that call. Or maybe you should consult the SA platform
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:34 |
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Mister Facetious posted:Even Wall Street knew Hillary's faux attempt at populism was full of poo poo: Yes, and trans people knew Trump was lying about hating trans people. You loving idiot.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:34 |
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Fulchrum the day you went into the "The democrats are a waste" thread and called for the Democratic party to treat voters like chimps, was the most important day of your life. For us it was Wednesday.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:34 |
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Condiv posted:ditto. unlike the bad dem thread, you can post your opinions on the dems here, popular or not. just no racism and nazis stay out thanks Okay. Bernie deciding to stay in til the convention caused his supporters to become completely delusional and obsessed, with no upsides at all, and is a major reason she lost. Kilroy posted:Fulchrum the day you went into the "The democrats are a waste" thread and called for the Democratic party to treat voters like chimps, was the most important day of your life. For us it was Wednesday. It's thursday.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:39 |
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Fulchrum posted:Bernie deciding to stay in til the convention caused his supporters to become completely delusional and obsessed, with no upsides at all, and is a major reason she lost. Swing and a miss. Still looking for any other excuse than "Hillary was a bad candidate to run" eh, Fulchrum? Have fun voting for Zuck in 2020.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:41 |
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WampaLord posted:Swing and a miss. Wow, Bernie must be really lovely to lose to her, huh. Wait wait Wait, lemme guess. For Hillary, it was only her, there were no other factors. For Bernie, it was the biased media/outside interference/biased dems/ a crooked system/ the fairies/ whatever other weak rear end excuse you can come up with. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Aug 24, 2017 |
# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:48 |
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Fulchrum is no fun, where's Jefferson Clay?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:51 |
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Mister Facetious posted:Even Wall Street knew Hillary's faux attempt at populism was full of poo poo: Fulchrum has been around for a while, he isn't B5. Fulchrum posted:Yes, and trans people knew Trump was lying about hating trans people. You loving idiot. There's a pretty big difference between "a small minority of trans people thought Trump wasn't actually bigoted against trans people" and "prominent bankers, as well as the banks themselves, hold generally favorable views of Hillary." Hillary was never going to do anything that the banks strongly disagreed with. She has a long an positive relationship with the financial industry. Heck, her relationship with finance is even better than Obama's, and Obama certainly wasn't willing to rock the boat much in that regard either. To be honest, I'm surprised you're not taking the "financial industry actually isn't that bad, people are just unfairly judging them" angle, since that's usually the position held by folks like you.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:54 |
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Fulchrum posted:Okay. There is very little evidence, if any, that corroborates this claim.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:55 |
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Lightning Knight posted:Fulchrum is no fun, where's Jefferson Clay? Pretty sure he tagged out.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:56 |
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Majorian posted:There is very little evidence, if any, that corroborates this claim. The continued existence of this thread and the absolute need to continually demonize Hillary corroborates this claim.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:57 |
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Fulchrum posted:Okay. Bernie voters carried over to Hillary in greater proportion than 2008 Hillary voters carried over to Obama.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:58 |
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Majorian posted:I agree for the most part, but I think we can probably do without Fulchrum gimmick-posting compulsively like he does. Definitely. I'm all for talking about policies, candidates and such with anyone who drops by. But people coming in just to relive the worst days of the old US politics thread with blatant shitposting doesn't help anyone. Quite the opposite, in fact.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 05:59 |
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Fulchrum posted:The continued existence of this thread and the absolute need to continually demonize Hillary corroborates this claim.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 06:00 |
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Fulchrum posted:The continued existence of this thread and the absolute need to continually demonize Hillary corroborates this claim. That is actually not evidence that Sanders staying in the race for as long as he did caused her to lose. I feel as if you may not be posting in good faith, noted terrible gimmick Fulchrum.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 06:05 |
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Majorian posted:That is actually not evidence that Sanders staying in the race for as long as he did caused her to lose. especially when you consider hillary stayed in the primary race as long as possible and tried to claim that since she won the popular vote, she should be the candidate instead of obama. p shameful didn't stop obama from winning tho. against a way more electable, centrist republican too! it's almost like hillary is terrible, especially since she had her dream choice of opponent and still couldn't win
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 06:09 |
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reignonyourparade posted:Bernie voters carried over to Hillary in greater proportion than 2008 Hillary voters carried over to Obama. I know you know this is disingenuous since that doesn't track people who didn't vote, and you know I know it, so why even bring this b.s. up?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 06:28 |
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Funny thing is that Hillary's main problem with turnout was among Black voters, the same group that Hillary folks love to tell people would never vote Bernie. But let's pretend that this whole discussion isn't disingenuous as gently caress and continue for 5 pages.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 06:42 |
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joepinetree posted:Funny thing is that Hillary's main problem with turnout was among Black voters, the same group that Hillary folks love to tell people would never vote Bernie. But let's pretend that this whole discussion isn't disingenuous as gently caress and continue for 5 pages. You gonna pretend that voter suppression is targeted at white males?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 06:46 |
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joepinetree posted:Funny thing is that Hillary's main problem with turnout was among Black voters, the same group that Hillary folks love to tell people would never vote Bernie. But let's pretend that this whole discussion isn't disingenuous as gently caress and continue for 5 pages. I'm not sure I agree with framing that as a "turnout problem" in a world of aggressive voter suppression.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 06:47 |
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joepinetree posted:Funny thing is that Hillary's main problem with turnout was among Black voters, the same group that Hillary folks love to tell people would never vote Bernie. But let's pretend that this whole discussion isn't disingenuous as gently caress and continue for 5 pages. remember in 2008 when she cast herself as the candidate of white working class people? yikes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjoMcqMTMfw
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 06:49 |
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also, here's a little statistic for people claiming bernie supporters blew it for hillary by having 10% of them vote for trump instead of her https://twitter.com/jmillerlewis/status/900429108487876609 25% of her supporters in 2008 jumped ship obama still won
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