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in innistrad the best archetypes are GW 2 drops plus travel prep.dec or UX(y) graveyard decks
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:25 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 03:13 |
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For you guys that have been playing a long time how would you rate the current format? I only started playing when Amonkhet came out but I am finding Hour to be a big upgrade over triple Amonkhet and talking with some people in my LGS a bunch of them say it's their favorite of the last few years.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:29 |
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Tainen posted:For you guys that have been playing a long time how would you rate the current format? I only started playing when Amonkhet came out but I am finding Hour to be a big upgrade over triple Amonkhet and talking with some people in my LGS a bunch of them say it's their favorite of the last few years. The last few years is probably right. Its also not a huge milestone to reach considering, but right now standard is fine-ish. If your favorite format is standard you aren't having a bad time per say.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:36 |
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Tainen posted:For you guys that have been playing a long time how would you rate the current format? I only started playing when Amonkhet came out but I am finding Hour to be a big upgrade over triple Amonkhet and talking with some people in my LGS a bunch of them say it's their favorite of the last few years. Ive heard some people saying the same things, but it just seems ok to me? It not awful but I dont think its any where close to top 5.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:37 |
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Probably the best since frf.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:46 |
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Tainen posted:For you guys that have been playing a long time how would you rate the current format? I only started playing when Amonkhet came out but I am finding Hour to be a big upgrade over triple Amonkhet and talking with some people in my LGS a bunch of them say it's their favorite of the last few years. I think the best draft formats of the past 5 years were 3x KTK and Eldritch Moon and there's a big gap after that but this one would be in the running for 3rd place.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 20:04 |
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Judge tosses case brought by Magic: the Gathering judge who wants to be paidquote:A federal judge in California has dismissed a proposed class-action labor lawsuit brought in late 2015 by a man who says that he has now worked for more than 20 years as a "judge" in Magic: the Gathering tournaments and demands to be paid. This isn't the only case of a judge suing WotC, at least I think this isn't the same one as another judge I know has been working on, because I don't see his name anywhere on this. But it's not good for his case if this almost identical one (IANAL) has been thrown out.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 21:45 |
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Shouldn't have filed in Federal Court.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 21:49 |
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The judges should unionize
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 22:15 |
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GeneX posted:The judges should unionize Imagine a GP with poorly trained scab judges.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 22:36 |
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Tainen posted:For you guys that have been playing a long time how would you rate the current format? I only started playing when Amonkhet came out but I am finding Hour to be a big upgrade over triple Amonkhet and talking with some people in my LGS a bunch of them say it's their favorite of the last few years. I'm really liking Hour so far and agree it's an upgrade over Amonkhet. I like when Limited environments have a mechanic that allows you to smooth out your draws and help you be able to still do something if you stumble on mana early. Cycling does that nicely. Hour feels like a slower format than triple AKH, which is nice. You could win with a ramp deck in AKH, but you had a really bad time of it if you got paired against a good version of the fast WR deck. Now there's fewer good aggressive creatures, more ramp spells, and more payoffs. And between Oasis Ritualist and Gift of Paradise at common, it's actually really easy to splash for a double-off-colored-mana card in a ramp deck. If you're UG Ramp and open a Glorybringer or a Cruel Reality in pack 3, you can absolutely splash for it. The "deserts matter" theme is cool, especially since almost all the deserts are good cards you want in your deck anyway. The only thing I don't like about this format is that the 3 gods feel nigh unbeatable to play against, just like Glorybringer did last set (and Glorybringer is still around). gif Probst posted:Probably the best since frf. You're crazy if you think FRF-KTK-KTK was better than Triple KTK. It took an all-time-great format and made it more about what bomb rare you opened in pack 1.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 22:40 |
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Mezzanon posted:Imagine a GP with poorly trained scab judges. So, a GP then?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 22:40 |
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Cactrot posted:So, a GP then? ..... yes.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 22:49 |
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GeneX posted:The judges should unionize I can't tell if that's ironic, but the only thing that would get WotC to change their standard operating procedure for judges is if all the judges banded together and said they wouldn't work unless things changed. I think there's a big gap in attitudes between newer judges and the old guard like me who've been judging for over a decade. The average L1 doesn't care about any of this because they just get store credit from their LGS. The average new L2 is just happy to travel the country/world and judge events, even though they merely break even (or worse) judging a GP. Most of the current L3s who have been judging forever are used to it, but I'm not really in their mindset because I haven't head judged a GP or Pro Tour ever.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 22:50 |
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I'm an L1 because me and my friends run a cool weekly modern thing. But I don't see why someone would go judge at GPs practically for free unless they really like being in large crowds full of magic players and catering to their whims. To me that looks like a thing you should be paid for. Why really do they volunteer for a for-profit organization?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 23:15 |
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Bonus posted:I'm an L1 because me and my friends run a cool weekly modern thing. But I don't see why someone would go judge at GPs practically for free unless they really like being in large crowds full of magic players and catering to their whims. To me that looks like a thing you should be paid for. Why really do they volunteer for a for-profit organization? I stopped judging GPs because I'd always get sick, and between travel expenses, hotels, and meals I'd just break even. Then I'd be sick and useless for at least two days after the event, probably longer. Back when I was breaking even and getting judge foils for GPs it was pretty sweet though, because I'd make $250ish selling the foils after the event. But I was younger then and my immune system and tolerance for walking around for eleven hours a day on six hours of sleep was much greater.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 23:21 |
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Entropic posted:I'm really liking Hour so far and agree it's an upgrade over Amonkhet. I like when Limited environments have a mechanic that allows you to smooth out your draws and help you be able to still do something if you stumble on mana early. Cycling does that nicely.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 23:21 |
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Ah, ok. I actually quite liked Oath of the Gatewatch, it reminds me of Hour in that its small-small-big draft environment was a marked improvement on the triple-big set it came after. And I have a soft spot for Origins, probably because I had a ridiculous win record with it. It was really bare-bones, but it was a drat good intro-to-drafting set and it got a whole bunch of people at my LGS into limited.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 23:27 |
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Chill la Chill posted:Can someone post the Marshal(?) to Efro pro tour coverage pic from best dressed to worst dressed? Thanks. I swore I saved it last time. That image is amazing. Ben Stark all casual in the coverage booth at last weekend's GP was pretty great, also was a master stroke when Marshall let him / made him put on one of Marshall's jackets and it looked like Ben was a kid wearing his dad's suit. Great way to troll the chat twitch chat
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 00:35 |
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Dehtraen posted:That image is amazing. Was Reid Duke also wearing Huey's jacket, too?
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 02:52 |
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Entropic posted:Ah, ok. I liked Kaladesh and AER better than this format. Once you've gotten past the basic archetypes that work, there isn't much to do in HOD, and there are no fun build around me cards, like Drake Haven, which is now almost useless since you never see it until pack 3. I feel like this format is propped up on cycling being such a great mechanic, it masks an otherwise mediocre draft environment. Sadly we don't have data on drafts fired, which is probably the best way to determine how popular a format truly is. I took a hiatus between Dragons of Tarkir and Kaladesh, but so far I haven't found a draft format I didn't want to draft other than Avacyn Restored, and that's going back all the way to Alara.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 03:14 |
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Marketing New Brain posted:Sadly we don't have data on drafts fired, which is probably the best way to determine how popular a format truly is. I took a hiatus between Dragons of Tarkir and Kaladesh, but so far I haven't found a draft format I didn't want to draft other than Avacyn Restored, and that's going back all the way to Alara. Gatecrash is extremely bad.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 03:48 |
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Hellsau posted:Gatecrash is extremely bad. I got like five Syndic of Titheses in a triple GTC draft once, so I remember the format very fondly. Best Boros card I've ever seen.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:09 |
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I remember RTR being pretty good except for Packrat being the original Glorybringer. The limited thread is still named after it.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:11 |
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Is there a definitive list of "Oh, gently caress off" Limited cards? It's got to include Pack Rat, Glorybringer, Bonfire of the Damned and, I don't know.. Jitte?
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:13 |
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Entropic posted:I remember RTR being pretty good except for Packrat being the original Glorybringer. The limited thread is still named after it. Triple RTR wasn't bad. Triple GTC was like triple Amonkhet but loud, and full block RTR was weird and kind of lame (first back full of garbage cluestones at common, weird pressure to cut a gatecrash guild since that was the second pack)
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:14 |
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Entropic posted:Is there a definitive list of "Oh, gently caress off" Limited cards? All 3 gods in HOU.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:15 |
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Hellsau posted:Gatecrash is extremely bad. Definitely one of the lower ranking ones, I only liked triple RTR, and even that had Pack Rat to taint it. I still drafted it a bunch, I think it was altogether more popular than post Theros draft formats, at least from what I remember.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:16 |
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Packing all 10 guilds into a small set in Dragon's Maze was an interesting experiment, but I think didn't quite get there. I think if cluestones had been replaced with something slightly better it would have been a much more interesting format.mcmagic posted:All 3 gods in HOU. Yeah. I think it being 3 different cards somehow lessens the blow because it's different each way, but yeah, they're all nigh unbeatable and miserable to play against. I had a game where someone cast Locust God, then untapped and cast Tragic Lesson, then cast Bloodwater Entity putting Tragic Lesson back on top of their library. . Entropic fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Aug 25, 2017 |
# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:16 |
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How soon we forget Grave Titan.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:18 |
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I actually liked triple gtc a lot even though I ended up simic like every time. Full block rtr was bad though, first pack full of
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:19 |
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PMush Perfect posted:How soon we forget Grave Titan. Were any of the Titans not broken in limited? That was before I really started drafting. I guess, weirdly, the most played Constructed one, Primeval Titan, is the least broken in Limited because you probably don't have any worthwhile nonbasics to fetch and who really needs more than 6 mana in limited anyway?
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:22 |
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Here's how bad Pack Rat was in Limited: Mizzium Mortars was in the same set and nobody remembers.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:23 |
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Entropic posted:Is there a definitive list of "Oh, gently caress off" Limited cards? Whichever Jace had like a +1 or a 0 Option that milled some absurd number of cards. It was 2 or 3 activations to deck them in limited. Glorybringer ain't poo poo, Drana Kalastria was the loving worst. Imagine if Glorybringer killed anything, didn't exert and dealt you 10 damage on top of it. Flame Wave (aka Game Wave) at uncommon was a huge gently caress you in TSE, and they moved it to rare in Tempest Remastered thankfully. Unfortunately they also moved Wasteland to rare like dicks, although I'm not sure if it was adjusted to have the same open rate given you got 3 packs to crack it instead of one.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:24 |
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Marketing New Brain posted:Whichever Jace had like a +1 or a 0 Option that milled some absurd number of cards. It was 2 or 3 activations to deck them in limited. My understand of old packs is that any given uncommon (say, Wasteland) is about as rare as any given rare these days. So moving Wasteland to rare in TPR made it about as common as it was at uncommon in the original Tempest. Also I thought Flame Wave was rare for a LONG time, like until a few years ago, because oh my god how could it not be?
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:29 |
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Marketing New Brain posted:Whichever Jace had like a +1 or a 0 Option that milled some absurd number of cards. It was 2 or 3 activations to deck them in limited. Anime Jace was in three core sets in a row. I can't believe I forgot that one. At least it was mythic in a large set.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:31 |
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suicidesteve posted:My understand of old packs is that any given uncommon (say, Wasteland) is about as rare as any given rare these days. So moving Wasteland to rare in TPR made it about as common as it was at uncommon in the original Tempest. That's true for REALLY old sets but Tempest is too recent for that.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:31 |
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suicidesteve posted:Also I thought Flame Wave was rare for a LONG time, like until a few years ago, because oh my god how could it not be? Reminder that Rolling Thunder was a common in Tempest. I don't think they'd figured out rarity quite yet then
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:31 |
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Similarly to the Titans, Soul of Theros was miserable.
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# ? Aug 25, 2017 04:32 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 03:13 |
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The official Jace names, in order of release, are Baby Jace, Jace, Anime Jace, Michael C. Hall Jace, Unplayable Jace, Flip Jace, and Begrudgingly Playable Jace.
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