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R. Mute posted:im in the good spot, bay-bee:  fellow purgee
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Ruzihm posted:Just be a little careful using "MoP", "capital", and "private property" interchangeably.
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While we're on the topic of the Russian Revolution, does anyone have any recommendations for historical works covering that period? I remember Chapo had on a guy who had written a book on 1917.
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TrilliontonNixon posted:While we're on the topic of the Russian Revolution, does anyone have any recommendations for historical works covering that period? I remember Chapo had on a guy who had written a book on 1917. that was sci-fi author China Miéville's October; haven't picked it up yet, but it sounded like an interesting perspective - Miéville's been a leftist for a long time.
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 I look forward to my exile in Paris and early death from Tb. BrainParasite has issued a correction as of 01:04 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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jarofpiss posted:i still support danny but now only ironically
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R. Mute posted:pro-tip it doesn't matter if the term isn't obvious. if someone's into socialist theory, they can easily make the effort to get it. if they're not into socialist theory, they don't really need to know what it means anyway. socialists love getting lost in theoretical debates that are just wholly irrelevant in the greater scheme of things. Words have meaning, if you run on meanings that only apply to one circle your gonna have trouble expanding. A good elevator pitch is a great way to get people interested in something they didn't know much about before and double meanings can undermine that, especially if it sounds like you want to jack someones home or whatever.
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Aug 25, 2017 01:02
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Crusader posted:that was sci-fi author China Miéville's October; haven't picked it up yet, but it sounded like an interesting perspective - Miéville's been a leftist for a long time. I'm planning on getting that book soon too, because apparently I know way too little about the subject I did that 1917 russia test posted earlier and got anarchist, but I think it's mainly because I didn't know how to answer the questions about the "current government" or whatever and just went neutral on most. I obviously should have gotten black hundreds
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Agean90 posted:Words have meaning, if you run on meanings that only apply to one circle your gonna have trouble expanding. A good elevator pitch is a great way to get people interested in something they didn't know much about before and double meanings can undermine that, especially if it sounds like you want to jack someones home or whatever.
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Left SR checking in
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how are all yall coming up anarchist and ultra-left SR but its a struggle to get support for dismantling the institutions of state violence ITT... 
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Aug 25, 2017 01:14
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the 30000 page apathetic anarchist MEGATHREAD
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https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/prison-abolition-reform-mass-incarceration
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TrilliontonNixon posted:While we're on the topic of the Russian Revolution, does anyone have any recommendations for historical works covering that period? I remember Chapo had on a guy who had written a book on 1917. Miéville's book is a really good intro, a breeze to read. I'd also recommend Figes A People's Tragedy. The name clues you up on his political bias, and Figes has a pretty iffy rep, worth reading his Wikipedia page. It's still a good intro narrative read covering from the start of the reign of Nicholas II until the death of Lenin. But like all these things, just remember the biases of the author
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:how are all yall coming up anarchist and ultra-left SR but its a struggle to get support for dismantling the institutions of state violence ITT... there weren't any questions about how great danny is on the quiz
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forkboy84 posted:Miéville's book is a really good intro, a breeze to read. I'd also recommend Figes A People's Tragedy. The name clues you up on his political bias, and Figes has a pretty iffy rep, worth reading his Wikipedia page. It's still a good intro narrative read covering from the start of the reign of Nicholas II until the death of Lenin. Cool, I'll have to check it out.
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Enjoy going on the PGH Slack and seeing a 300 replied thread appear over the course of 2 hrs discussing the problems with our chapter's bylaws and steering committees having too much power.
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if you're not on your bylaws bullshit 90% of the time you arent doing dsa
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you got me and democratic socialism mixed up
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Crusader posted:that was sci-fi author China Miéville's October; haven't picked it up yet, but it sounded like an interesting perspective - Miéville's been a leftist for a long time. I'm enjoying it, but I have some familiarity of the story outside of his book. Without a little bit of background knowledge of the major players, you will get lost in a loving hurry.
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mievelle is a wanker
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Why do you say that?
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Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:Why do you say that? i read his books
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:i read his books Fair enough, October is the only one I've ever read.
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Left SR here bolsheviks are more democratic than authoritarian? hmmmmmmm i guess the scale is relative to all other ideologies
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i got about 20 or 30 pages into perdido street station before i decided there was too much made-up fantasy words and things for me to handle at the time. someone said it was like phillip k dick but they lied
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Karl Barks posted:bolsheviks are more democratic than authoritarian? hmmmmmmm i guess the scale is relative to all other ideologies Raskolnikov38 posted:fwiw this quiz takes the public position of parties rather than what they actually did and those stated policies changed after 1917 as well
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Karl Barks posted:Left SR here Democratic centralism is actually good and democratic! For a party structure.
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Shear Modulus posted:i got about 20 or 30 pages into perdido street station before i decided there was too much made-up fantasy words and things for me to handle at the time. someone said it was like phillip k dick but they lied I didn't really like it either, the only thing I can remember about it now is bug-person sex.
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Aug 25, 2017 03:14
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China Mieville owns and like 95% of the "made-up" words are actually real English words used to mean more or less the same thing they mean in real life, just in a fantasy context.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:I didn't really like it either, the only thing I can remember about it now is bug-person sex. yeah that was the part that was too weird for me Tuxedo Catfish posted:China Mieville owns and like 95% of the "made-up" words are actually real English words used to mean more or less the same thing they mean in real life, just in a fantasy context. look man i was in the mood for some dick alright?
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Shear Modulus posted:look man i was in the mood for some dick alright? I hear you but man, nobody but Philip K. Dick writes Philip K. Dick. You were setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Aug 25, 2017 03:19
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Anyways the beginning of Perdido Street Station is the best part because it's just this perverted scientist and his bug-headed lover going about their everyday domestic lives under an oppressive early industrial Capitalist regime. Later on it turns into a much more conventional action-adventure story and isn't nearly as unique or interesting.
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Aug 25, 2017 03:21
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I hear you but man, nobody but Philip K. Dick writes Philip K. Dick. You were setting yourself up for disappointment. Damned if that ain't the truth. I heard about these people that all they do is read Clans of the Aphane Moon over and over again and rock gently back and forth to the rhythm of the words.
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TrilliontonNixon posted:While we're on the topic of the Russian Revolution, does anyone have any recommendations for historical works covering that period? I remember Chapo had on a guy who had written a book on 1917. figes' a people's tragedy, ten days that shook the world by jack reed, Trotsky has an account of it that's pretty good that I've forgotten the name of figes' book covers from the turn of the 20th Century to the conclusion of the civil war and reed as a rando American in Petersburg doesn't always understand what's going on around him but provides a good 'street level' view Raskolnikov38 has issued a correction as of 04:53 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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Serious question, what happens if a member of the DSA runs for the office of Constable? Is that even allowed? Edit: Last time the guy who ran in my area, he ran unopposed. Dr. Arbitrary has issued a correction as of 05:34 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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