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rudatron posted:Gamergate represented the intrusion of the super-ego into the pure-id, that is, the intrusion of social sensibilities into a fundamentally anti-social space. The weirdest part was remembering just a few years prior these same individuals wanted games to be considered art. They despised people like Ebert deriding their hobby. Then some people actually tried to make games as art. And successful or not, these games were largely ignored in favor of whatever AAA game came out that month by the same individuals who were mad at Ebert. Finally when people try to critique videogames as something serious, you saw people lose their poo poo. At once demanding ethics in game journalism as they sent death threats to journalists they didn't like. cargo cult posted:plz no more comic book and video game talk It's inherent to the subject of the alt-right, you can't try to understand them without talking about it
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rudatron posted:I'm not post freudian soon you're gonna be turning deleueze books sideways with your tongue hanging out as the centerfold falls out
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Aug 28, 2017 01:23
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Admiral Ray posted:i feel like the first inkling of this poo poo was the Rebecca Watson thing
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Aug 28, 2017 01:24
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you're gonna find yourself pounding your fist on a table at a cafe and saying "of course lacan didnt go far enough"
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Aug 28, 2017 01:26
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school shootings stopped being a thing like a couple of years ago it seems. the same people who threatened to massacre ppl at anita sarkeesian talks are natural recruits for white ISIS
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Aug 28, 2017 01:27
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fanon? more like faoui!!!!!!
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you wake up with the words "as above so below" scratched into one arm and a diagram of the washington monument scratched into the other. slowly you realize you are either in budapest or vienna and you have ten thousand euros and a half empty lube keychain in your pocket
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and yet the only scholar whose name you can remember is jane goodall
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I almost forgot the elevator thing. As a stand alone ethics issue, I have criticisms of both sides, but the fact that it kind of 'blew up' into this big thing itself signifies an undercurrent of insecurity and such.
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Al! posted:you wake up with the words "as above so below" scratched into one arm and a diagram of the washington monument scratched into the other. slowly you realize you are either in budapest or vienna and you have ten thousand euros and a half empty lube keychain in your pocket
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I don't think we're actually disagreeing with each other. I'm just trying to draw a distinction between Neocons who view power as a necessary means for the security of liberal democracy, and Fascists who view power as a means to achieve glorious purpose and enjoyment through inflicting suffering on the nation's enemies. There is a reason why Fascists don't become Neocons. Yeah, I take your point. I think the main difference between them is probably the lens they view the world through. Neocons view the exercise of power as protecting the things they like against the things they don't like, they view it as defense. Fascist view power as a way to destroy all the bad things that are preventing them from getting what thely want, it's an offensive worldview. (Pun intended) Al! posted:soon you're gonna be turning deleueze books sideways with your tongue hanging out as the centerfold falls out
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Dreddout posted:Yeah, I take your point. gently caress you buddy, rudatron and i have been ideologically incompatible when u were still in poo poo posts this argument, of course, is at its base about the competition for sexual resources [post fruedian batman grapnel into the clouds]
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Aug 28, 2017 01:36
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shut up about the social dynamics behind video game nerds and post video of chuds getting owned. https://twitter.com/shane_bauer/status/901910367239938048
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Agean90 posted:shut up about the social dynamics behind video game nerds and post video of chuds getting owned. jesus christ is that kid wearing a shirt of trump in an SS uniform? rip it off his body and burn that poo poo
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Elephant Ambush posted:Protip: People from Spain are white. I am of Iberian heritage - in my home town I was not white but a southern euro mud person, but in a big city I am magically a white man. funny how that works. my point was this guy is running away from being considered Latino/not white.
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Agean90 posted:shut up about the social dynamics behind video game nerds and post video of chuds getting owned. was he wearing a wig?? or did i lose track of people
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cargo cult posted:school shootings stopped being a thing like a couple of years ago it seems. the same people who threatened to massacre ppl at anita sarkeesian talks are natural recruits for white ISIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QWL-FwX4t4 i think vanilla ISIS has provided a sense of purpose and meaning to young men who might've become school shooters. though school shootings were also pretty rare, the online reactionary movement may have channeled some of that rage and given it direction and spin. Wraith of J.O.I. posted:jesus christ is that kid wearing a shirt of trump in an SS uniform? rip it off his body and burn that poo poo
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the gamergate types who got radicalized into alt-right were always going to end up reactionary fascist scum. if it hadn't been games it would have been something else. the same psychological frailty that motivated them to become gaters-- lack of purpose, deep insecurity and resentment about their place in society, feelings of inferiority and revanchist-- is what made them fascists.
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GG was/is a product of the time. Nothing about GG is new, only the technology. These trumpers getting beat up is good.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:jesus christ is that kid wearing a shirt of trump in an SS uniform? rip it off his body and burn that poo poo Pretty sure it's Pinochet, it's probably better to skip the part where we rip it off him and go straight to the burning.
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Tardcore posted:Pretty sure it's Pinochet, it's probably better to skip the part where we rip it off him and go straight to the burning. yep, it's pinochet
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the "gamer" part of gamergate came from an article that said basically "videogames are super popular now, the audience isn't just enthusiasts"
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Aug 28, 2017 01:51
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:jesus christ is that kid wearing a shirt of trump in an SS uniform? rip it off his body and burn that poo poo i think it's a picture of pinochet with the word "HELICOPTER" under it so you know he's super cool and normal guy
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Aug 28, 2017 01:54
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cargo cult posted:i dont wnna be that guy but they should probably just taake the W and not do an actual riot lol, but w/e Actually they should do an actual riot because if you're going to be treated as violent psychopaths by the states army you may as well get to smash a Starbucks too
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Now dat's a bloc https://twitter.com/RRYrevolucion/status/901917504217522176
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Actually they should do an actual riot because if you're going to be treated as violent psychopaths by the states army you may as well get to smash a Starbucks too
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business hammocks posted:Comic books seems to have gone through/is going through a smaller-scale version of gamergate, driven by similar cultural and market forces, so it could happen in any sufficiently niche hobby with a declining die-hard core confronting change brought by new participants. Comics have been doing this for years, it got really bad for a minute when marvel was really pushing diversity but given how many rad creators made their names there or at dc and are now doing it at image where it's blatantly not editorial mandate (because there is none) and enjoying a lot of success most of the shitheads just get made fun of or ignored The actual worst thing that's come from it was a middle aged white dude writing about Ms Marvel, a Muslim teen, stopping her friends from beating up a dude who literally burned down a mosque because violence isn't the answer and just gently caress you mark waid
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it honestly seems like there's a ton of popular good will for antifa right now, which isnt surprising considering how demographically diverse america is. I keep seeing clickbait saying their ranks are "swelling," without too much concern trolling bolted on. The next occupy is gonna be lit
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cargo cult posted:it honestly seems like there's a ton of popular good will for antifa right now, which isnt surprising considering how demographically diverse america is. I keep seeing clickbait saying their ranks are "swelling," without too much concern trolling bolted on. The next occupy is gonna be lit Considering I just helped coordinate the local crew and by extension crews across upstate NY forming a coalition with local leftist groups under an assurance that they wouldn't get all scornful about antifa being willing to do violence and then they did a whole bunch of NONVIOLENCE AT ANY COST at the first meeting No not really
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High energy https://twitter.com/zacconklin/status/901921981653590016 https://twitter.com/PattersonNBC/status/901908786125750272
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Considering I just helped coordinate the local crew and by extension crews across upstate NY forming a coalition with local leftist groups under an assurance that they wouldn't get all scornful about antifa being willing to do violence and then they did a whole bunch of NONVIOLENCE AT ANY COST at the first meeting
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That reminds me I need to check the minutes from that meeting, I couldn't make it because I had to sleep at some point between shifts
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boo thosee fuckers didnt upload minutes yet
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Considering I just helped coordinate the local crew and by extension crews across upstate NY forming a coalition with local leftist groups under an assurance that they wouldn't get all scornful about antifa being willing to do violence and then they did a whole bunch of NONVIOLENCE AT ANY COST at the first meeting Americans have been heavily programmed to only accept nonviolent protect/resistance, but in your experience organizing so far is this attitude seeing change or is it becoming reinforced over time?
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:jesus christ is that kid wearing a shirt of trump in an SS uniform? rip it off his body and burn that poo poo tbf you can probably skip the first step
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FaustianQ posted:Americans have been heavily programmed to only accept nonviolent protect/resistance, but in your experience organizing so far is this attitude seeing change or is it becoming reinforced over time? hand tilt on the individual level im seeing more people who are like yes we are behind your people if poo poo goes down, people who wont necessarily take a punch or throw one themselves but aren't gonna look down on antifa for it (the people i've talked to at ISO fit into this category, like the rank and file college aged kids driving poo poo forward) but then you get into a big meeting and the people with actual power are strongly against it in any way shape or form (ISO leadership)
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i think a lot of it is about demographics and i think as always young folks are the ones most willing to give something new a shot while the elders will hunker down in what they've always known until they're dragged into the future kicking and screaming it just so happens that in this specific scenario the young folks dont even really have to act out, just support on....not the down-low but not as an official Organization level, while the people with no membership rolls and no leaders to answer to dont have to sweat it
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