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I do wonder where they'll go from here. Cville changed the narrative. Before, the mainstream kinda looked on as if antifa and the altright were just dueling street gangs. With a lot of their sites and platforms shut down, and with cities given enough legal reason to shut down their rallies before they begin, is their only option lone wolf terrorism? And how do we prepare for that? It's extremely hard to defend against random, isis-style attacks. I've armed myself, and train with a few friends, and also have some facebook groups where we teach leftists how to shoot and how to prepare for community self defense.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:they can't even get a hundred people to stick around long enough to hold a rally. what makes them think they can muster a crack "counter-riot brigrade"? also unlike the fascists antifa are mostly locals who show up when needed to push out the fascists, many of whom dont even live in the places they're holding their rallies. I wasn't able to watch a lot of the stuff in real time, as I was at a conference processing feelings and poo poo, but I take it that the III% militia 'Mah GUNZ' types didn't appear this time around? Even as security ?
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Al! posted:do muslims ever say infidel outside of cartoons No, but some do say kafir.
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Generally speaking I think this is where a Hitler or Mussolini who could actually coordinate a far-right paramilitary from a position of power would need to take over but they've got Trump instead lol
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Bullfrog posted:I do wonder where they'll go from here. Cville changed the narrative. Before, the mainstream kinda looked on as if antifa and the altright were just dueling street gangs. With a lot of their sites and platforms shut down, and with cities given enough legal reason to shut down their rallies before they begin, is their only option lone wolf terrorism? Get a CCW license and practice often.
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Also Bannon and Gorka just got shitcanned lol
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"And then we split up to occupy 5 different bagel shops."
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LordSaturn posted:That was the impression I got. I paid a buck for one of their broadsheets out of curiosity, after brushing aside their sales pitch about subscriptions and how miners don't have to die, and the hot takes it's got are truly remarkable. They don't seem to have much of a grasp on "political discipline" or "solidarity". I'd write more and post links if I wasn't phone posting but the brief rundown: they're literally that Monty python splitters sketch. Their idea of activism is selling their lovely paper, they hijack protests, groups and movements and neutralize them so effectively they should be government employees and their leadership is surprisingly pro-sexual assault
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rudatron posted:Gamergate represented the intrusion of the super-ego into the pure-id, that is, the intrusion of social sensibilities into a fundamentally anti-social space. What was fundamentally anti-social about it?
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Crane Fist posted:I'd write more and post links if I wasn't phone posting but the brief rundown: they're literally that Monty python splitters sketch. Their idea of activism is selling their lovely paper, they hijack protests, groups and movements and neutralize them so effectively they should be government employees and their leadership is surprisingly pro-sexual assault
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Jeb! Repetition posted:What was fundamentally anti-social about it? the death threats directed almost exclusively at women played a big part imo.
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rudatron posted:I almost forgot the elevator thing. As a stand alone ethics issue, I have criticisms of both sides, but the fact that it kind of 'blew up' into this big thing itself signifies an undercurrent of insecurity and such. Oh god, I almost forgot too, that was like the true beginning right there
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Agean90 posted:the death threats directed almost exclusively at women played a big part imo. That's an example of elements being anti-social but not an explanation of why it's fundamentally anti-social.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:That's an example of elements being anti-social but not an explanation of why it's fundamentally anti-social. because gently caress em thats why
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The New Statesman isn't great but here quote:In 2010, one of its leading members, who has always been referred to as “Comrade Delta”, was accused of sexually assaulting a young female “comrade”, and the party’s attempt to deal with the matter via a “disputes committee” composed largely of his colleagues has provoked anger and derision. Three further allegations of rape prompted claims that sexual abuse was “endemic” within the organisation.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:That's an example of elements being anti-social but not an explanation of why it's fundamentally anti-social. Apart from the death threats what did it actually accomplish
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Crane Fist posted:I'd write more and post links if I wasn't phone posting but the brief rundown: they're literally that Monty python splitters sketch. Their idea of activism is selling their lovely paper, they hijack protests, groups and movements and neutralize them so effectively they should be government employees and their leadership is surprisingly pro-sexual assault Rationalwiki has some solid material on them and Trotskyism in general, including this: " David Thorstad, a former member of SWP who was dissatisfied with SWP's failure to assign gay politics a central role in revolutionary strategy, went on to found the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) in 1978." But yeah, in general they seem like the kind of straw leftist that lovely memes assume all leftists are.
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Crane Fist posted:Apart from the death threats what did it actually accomplish What did what accomplish? Gamergate?
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David Thorstad's twitter handle is @thechildlover69 Holy poo poo
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Jeb! Repetition posted:What did what accomplish? Gamergate? Yeah obviously. What were you talking about?
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Crane Fist posted:David Thorstad's twitter handle is @thechildlover69 don't doxx me
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I can't believe NAMBLA is literally a Trotskyist offshoot lmao
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Crane Fist posted:Yeah obviously. What were you talking about? Oh I meant video gaming in general because I thought that's what rudatron was talking about.
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Crane Fist posted:David Thorstad's twitter handle is @thechildlover69 Pener Kropoopkin posted:I can't believe NAMBLA is literally a Trotskyist offshoot lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn966F69ctA&t=9s
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I can't believe NAMBLA is literally a Trotskyist offshoot lmao
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Crane Fist posted:David Thorstad's twitter handle is @thechildlover69 there was a case in england where some pop singer was convicted of raping a baby and his computer password was found to be "ifuckkids" pedophiles.... dumb?
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Bullfrog posted:I do wonder where they'll go from here. Cville changed the narrative. Before, the mainstream kinda looked on as if antifa and the altright were just dueling street gangs. With a lot of their sites and platforms shut down, and with cities given enough legal reason to shut down their rallies before they begin, is their only option lone wolf terrorism? I think we might be seeing a split, with some moving away from Nazism and back into "normal" right-wing politics, with others at risk of falling into this terroristic thing. At least rhetorically, that appears to be happening. BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 04:35 on Aug 28, 2017 |
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Is there something about Trotskyism that causes these groups to go so crazy?
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That's like, scary but also pathetic. They're so drat dumb and dangerous at the same time.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Yeah this and also what you were posting before. From the same thread I just posted that "well what the gently caress do we do now?" screencrap from: SODOMITES
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Yeah this and also what you were posting before. From the same thread I just posted that "well what the gently caress do we do now?" screencrap from: They're actually not everywhere, what with Discord and Stormfront
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I can't believe NAMBLA is literally a Trotskyist offshoot lmao stalin was right and foresaw this
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They seem to be under the delusion that they have a broad base of popular support.
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Bullfrog posted:That's like, scary but also pathetic. They're so drat dumb and dangerous at the same time. personally i think it's cool they literally do the same poo poo isis does.
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also weird they hate bureaucrats considering it was bureaucrats that allowed the nazi regime to function as well as it did.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Is there something about Trotskyism that causes these groups to go so crazy? with twenty minutes of lived experience knowing what Trotskyism is under my belt, I'd say that they're ideology fetishists with no interest in the practical exercise of power outside of their own organization BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Yeah this and also what you were posting before. From the same thread I just posted that "well what the gently caress do we do now?" screencrap from: I think it's easy to underestimate the kind of planning and life-throwing-away that's required to become a terrorist. But we had self-radicalized attacks before and we'll have them in the future, until we relieve the underlying condition.
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The swastika superimposed over the scales of justice, and the nuclear hazard badge, is the same group which lost two members in Tampa when their roommate because a "Salafi national socialist" or something like that and executed them. One of the guys had a Tim McVeigh photo on his dresser and bomb-making materials. The fourth roommate came home, saw the bodies and freaked out. He then linked up with another presumed member who lived at a separate address, cashed out their bank accounts, bought a rifle and took off for the Florida Keys before getting arrested. So that's actually a six-person cell in a single city which imploded just within the past few months. It seemed like a big blow to their recruiting efforts as Identity Evropa, Vanguard America, et. al. were firing up for Charlottesville. Ideologically the James Mason thing is all about lone wolf stuff and not bothering with rallies (except as a means of recruiting), and that originally developed from the National Socialist Liberation Front, which was a militant offshoot of the American Nazi Party (akin to what Spencer is doing now) which collapsed after Rockwell's assassination. The NSLF also copied from the Weathermen, SLA, IRA, etc. I've seen a propaganda push by them since Charlottesville though. But who knows whether it's meeting any success. It's pretty small relative to the broader white supremacist movement. Bullfrog posted:They seem to be under the delusion that they have a broad base of popular support. Oh you might be talking about Trots. Oops! BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 04:51 on Aug 28, 2017 |
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Darkman Fanpage posted:personally i think it's cool they literally do the same poo poo isis does. esp weird considering many of them were seen saying they actually wanted "white sharia" in their Cville discord. watch them try to declare a caliphate in montana or something EDIT: I was actually talking about the nazis, thanks for the info though, that's interesting. Where does the alt-lite go? The provocateur milo-esque thing didn't really work out. Bullfrog has issued a correction as of 04:49 on Aug 28, 2017 |
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"White sharia" sounds like one of those things that is meant to be an ironic play-on-words until it becomes serious.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:they can't even get a hundred people to stick around long enough to hold a rally. what makes them think they can muster a crack "counter-riot brigrade"? also unlike the fascists antifa are mostly locals who show up when needed to push out the fascists, many of whom dont even live in the places they're holding their rallies. Realtalk the crew here is like four people the rest of it is being able to network and call in comrades from out of town and friends you know who while not part of planning an action will totally help throw down if poo poo gets weird
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