Darkman Fanpage posted:

they can't even get a hundred people to stick around long enough to hold a rally. what makes them think they can muster a crack "counter-riot brigrade"? also unlike the fascists antifa are mostly locals who show up when needed to push out the fascists, many of whom dont even live in the places they're holding their rallies.

Al! posted:

do muslims ever say infidel outside of cartoons

Bullfrog posted:

I do wonder where they'll go from here. Cville changed the narrative. Before, the mainstream kinda looked on as if antifa and the altright were just dueling street gangs. With a lot of their sites and platforms shut down, and with cities given enough legal reason to shut down their rallies before they begin, is their only option lone wolf terrorism?

And how do we prepare for that? It's extremely hard to defend against random, isis-style attacks. I've armed myself, and train with a few friends, and also have some facebook groups where we teach leftists how to shoot and how to prepare for community self defense.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

LordSaturn posted:

That was the impression I got. I paid a buck for one of their broadsheets out of curiosity, after brushing aside their sales pitch about subscriptions and how miners don't have to die, and the hot takes it's got are truly remarkable. They don't seem to have much of a grasp on "political discipline" or "solidarity".

I'll just go google Trotskyism now and save you a lot of typing.

rudatron posted:

Gamergate represented the intrusion of the super-ego into the pure-id, that is, the intrusion of social sensibilities into a fundamentally anti-social space.

Crane Fist posted:

I'd write more and post links if I wasn't phone posting but the brief rundown: they're literally that Monty python splitters sketch. Their idea of activism is selling their lovely paper, they hijack protests, groups and movements and neutralize them so effectively they should be government employees and their leadership is surprisingly pro-sexual assault

Jeb! Repetition posted:

What was fundamentally anti-social about it?

rudatron posted:

I almost forgot the elevator thing. As a stand alone ethics issue, I have criticisms of both sides, but the fact that it kind of 'blew up' into this big thing itself signifies an undercurrent of insecurity and such.

Agean90 posted:

the death threats directed almost exclusively at women played a big part imo.

Jeb! Repetition posted:

That's an example of elements being anti-social but not an explanation of why it's fundamentally anti-social.

FaustianQ posted:

quote:

In 2010, one of its leading members, who has always been referred to as “Comrade Delta”, was accused of sexually assaulting a young female “comrade”, and the party’s attempt to deal with the matter via a “disputes committee” composed largely of his colleagues has provoked anger and derision. Three further allegations of rape prompted claims that sexual abuse was “endemic” within the organisation.

Yet it was the suggestion that the leadership had protected one of its own, and persuaded hundreds of members to collude in a cover-up, that convinced many people it was irredeemably corrupt.

In March, the University of London Union, which used to let rooms to the SWP for its annual conference on Marxism, changed its constitution to allow its officers to ban the party from the premises and accused it of being a “rape-apologist organisation which prides itself in creating an unsafe space for young women”. The attacks are not only verbal: recently, SWP stalls have been overturned at student demonstrations, and its activists harassed and abused.

Jeb! Repetition posted:

That's an example of elements being anti-social but not an explanation of why it's fundamentally anti-social.

Crane Fist posted:

I'd write more and post links if I wasn't phone posting but the brief rundown: they're literally that Monty python splitters sketch. Their idea of activism is selling their lovely paper, they hijack protests, groups and movements and neutralize them so effectively they should be government employees and their leadership is surprisingly pro-sexual assault

FaustianQ posted:

Crane Fist posted:

Apart from the death threats what did it actually accomplish

Jeb! Repetition posted:

What did what accomplish? Gamergate?

Crane Fist posted:

David Thorstad's twitter handle is @thechildlover69

Holy poo poo

Crane Fist posted:

Yeah obviously. What were you talking about?

Crane Fist posted:

David Thorstad's twitter handle is @thechildlover69

Holy poo poo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I can't believe NAMBLA is literally a Trotskyist offshoot lmao

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I can't believe NAMBLA is literally a Trotskyist offshoot lmao

Crane Fist posted:

David Thorstad's twitter handle is @thechildlover69

Holy poo poo

Bullfrog posted:

I do wonder where they'll go from here. Cville changed the narrative. Before, the mainstream kinda looked on as if antifa and the altright were just dueling street gangs. With a lot of their sites and platforms shut down, and with cities given enough legal reason to shut down their rallies before they begin, is their only option lone wolf terrorism?

And how do we prepare for that? It's extremely hard to defend against random, isis-style attacks. I've armed myself, and train with a few friends, and also have some facebook groups where we teach leftists how to shoot and how to prepare for community self defense.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Yeah this and also what you were posting before. From the same thread I just posted that "well what the gently caress do we do now?" screencrap from:



I think we might be seeing a split, with some moving away from Nazism and back into "normal" right-wing politics, with others at risk of falling into this terroristic thing. At least rhetorically, that appears to be happening.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Yeah this and also what you were posting before. From the same thread I just posted that "well what the gently caress do we do now?" screencrap from:



I think we might be seeing a split, with some moving away from Nazism and back into "normal" right-wing politics, with others at risk of falling into this terroristic thing. At least rhetorically, that appears to be happening.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I can't believe NAMBLA is literally a Trotskyist offshoot lmao

Bullfrog posted:

That's like, scary but also pathetic. They're so drat dumb and dangerous at the same time.

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Is there something about Trotskyism that causes these groups to go so crazy?

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Yeah this and also what you were posting before. From the same thread I just posted that "well what the gently caress do we do now?" screencrap from:



I think we might be seeing a split, with some moving away from Nazism and back into "normal" right-wing politics, with others at risk of falling into this terroristic thing. At least rhetorically, that appears to be happening.

Bullfrog posted:

They seem to be under the delusion that they have a broad base of popular support.

Darkman Fanpage posted:

personally i think it's cool they literally do the same poo poo isis does.

Darkman Fanpage posted:

they can't even get a hundred people to stick around long enough to hold a rally. what makes them think they can muster a crack "counter-riot brigrade"? also unlike the fascists antifa are mostly locals who show up when needed to push out the fascists, many of whom dont even live in the places they're holding their rallies.