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IcePhoenix posted:What I'm getting from this is that I should either just watch red zone or ignore the games and play more video games and watch baseball on sundays Twins are probably going to make a wildcard berth this year, so you got that going for you.
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Aug 28, 2017 19:26
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incompetent posted:what good username/post combo Deki posted:Twins are probably going to make a wildcard berth this year, so you got that going for you. it's very cool and with basketball starting like two weeks earlier this year I'm really happy they're almost going to bridge the gap between seasons
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Aug 28, 2017 19:57
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Sweet the Bears drafted a Glennon-level quarterback.
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Aug 28, 2017 20:11
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I love my elite quarterback. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/902348222009573377
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Aug 29, 2017 03:04
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Stafford was reported to be absent from practice today, so they must have just finished hammering out the details. All I can wonder now is how far north it is of $25 million a year, and whether our cap can sustain it (especially with a bunch of contracts coming up next year)
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Aug 29, 2017 03:14
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Stafford was reported to be absent from practice today, so they must have just finished hammering out the details. All I can wonder now is how far north it is of $25 million a year, and whether our cap can sustain it (especially with a bunch of contracts coming up next year) Sources saying $27 mil a year, which honestly isn't as bad as it could've been.
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Aug 29, 2017 04:33
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  I was starting to get a little worried this was going to end up like Washington's situation.
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Aug 29, 2017 08:49
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Man, what the hell happened to Carlos? He used to be so nondescript, but ever since Drew Sharp died he's been aggressively terrible. https://twitter.com/cmonarrez/status/902396017743712257 https://twitter.com/cmonarrez/status/902544137538330624 https://twitter.com/davebirkett/status/902544796451037184
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Aug 29, 2017 16:21
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I love my fat-faced QB.
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Aug 29, 2017 16:25
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I mean, Calvin Johnson was on the 0-16 Lions, so clearly he is a garbage receiver. That was some quality article.
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Aug 29, 2017 16:32
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It's really dumb. Like, yeah, he's not the best QB in the league, but look at who's winning Superbowls. Peyton (2015 version) was a smart but terrible QB. Wilson was showing flashes, but was not the QB he's grown into in '13. Flacco and Eli are both worse quarterbacks then Stafford. Yeah, the worse your starting QB is, the better (and luckier) the rest of your team needs to be to have a solid shot at a superbowl, but when you don't have a QB, you end up dumping poo poo tons of resources to try to find one, so building the rest of that team is harder. Dumping average and above QB's is just a fool's errand.
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Aug 29, 2017 16:48
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Kalli posted:It's really dumb. I love the people saying "why didn't we just dump him and draft a new one?" That's worked out so well for Denver, Houston, and Cleveland recently, right?
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Aug 29, 2017 17:37
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xsf421 posted:I love the people saying "why didn't we just dump him and draft a new one?" That's worked out so well for Denver, Houston, and Cleveland recently, right? 
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Aug 29, 2017 17:57
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Now that Stafford's hit his payday, let's check in with his backup: https://twitter.com/NateAtkins_/status/902575553257119744 
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Aug 29, 2017 17:58
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From https://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2017-detroit-lions-1798382848quote:Fun Fact: Stafford is 5-46 against winning teams. Yeah... have fun with that.
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LabyaMynora posted:From https://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2017-detroit-lions-1798382848 It's a cute stat but ultimately meaningless since it's devoid of context. Stafford's been playing on a team that was bad for a long time, and for most of the stretch of 2009-2013 he and Calvin Johnson were the only two people making them even remotely competitive. Going down the "What about WINS" road just takes you to Mark Sanchez, who was drafted the same year and has four playoff wins, and you don't see anyone bursting down the door to sign him these days. Edit: https://twitter.com/kpatra/status/902516730890735617 https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/status/902511872313786368 https://twitter.com/PaulHembo/status/902509925137567746 Suffice it to say, Staff deserves every goddamn dollar. Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Aug 29, 2017 |
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Aug 29, 2017 21:51
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It all depends on whether you see the Lions as a couple pieces away from contention or a dumpster fire heading into yet another rebuilding phase.
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Aug 29, 2017 23:52
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BGrifter posted:It all depends on whether you see the Lions as a couple pieces away from contention or a dumpster fire heading into yet another rebuilding phase. Stafford's 29. Even if you're going into a rebuilding phase, why would you want to tank? So you can draft another QB?
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Aug 30, 2017 00:05
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The Lions are definitely 2-3 good players away from being a consistent playoff contender. I don't know what you think is a "dumpster fire" about that team, except possibly the management repeatedly driving away their best players.
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Aug 30, 2017 00:13
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being a consistent playoff contender in the NFC isn't really that big a deal considering all like half the conference is full of useless failures.
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Aug 30, 2017 00:52
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mastershakeman posted:being a consistent playoff contender in the NFC isn't really that big a deal considering all like half the conference is full of useless failures. Maybe but when you haven't won a playoff game since 91 you try not to let that get you down.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:01
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Even if you think Stafford is average, I think you have to keep him around if you want any prayer of attracting free agents without paying overinflated amounts for them. Plus, keeping people coming to games.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:34
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Abugadu posted:Even if you think Stafford is average, I think you have to keep him around if you want any prayer of attracting free agents without paying overinflated amounts for them. Plus, keeping people coming to games. Stafford is not Average though, he has produced a lot pretty consistently throughout his career. He hasn't been below 4000 yards passing since 2010 and throws more touchdowns than turnovers. That is worth a lot in this league, if you have him you hold onto him until he becomes a liablity.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:44
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Abugadu posted:Even if you think Stafford is average, I think you have to keep him around if you want any prayer of attracting free agents without paying overinflated amounts for them. Plus, keeping people coming to games. Seems reasonable. I don't really have strong feelings one way or another about Stafford, he's ok. Probably in the top third of starting NFL quarterbacks, probably not top five. I don't think it's a total no brainer that he's worth the biggest QB contract in the league, but I'm open to the idea it's an acceptable price to pay for a stable above-average QB. Maybe I'm buying into the Vikings hype a bit too much, but I see them getting better and the Packers remaining the Packers. I might be overrating Minnesota and underrating Detroit.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:48
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BGrifter posted:Seems reasonable. I don't really have strong feelings one way or another about Stafford, he's ok. Probably in the top third of starting NFL quarterbacks, probably not top five. I don't think it's a total no brainer that he's worth the biggest QB contract in the league, but I'm open to the idea it's an acceptable price to pay for a stable above-average QB. It won't be the biggest for very long. I think a few big names are coming up next off-season that should beat Stafford's contract.
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Aug 30, 2017 02:06
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The Stafford contract was inevitable from the moment we drafted him in that ridiculous rookie contract era. The Lions had no leverage at all.
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Aug 30, 2017 02:19
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quarterback contracts are impossible, there's like 12 decent quarterbacks in the nfl and you need to cling to them like grim death even if they aren't quite good enough because the choice is between them and this.
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My dad's cousin who always has inane sports opinions thinks the Lions should see if they can get three impact players and two firsts for Stafford and roll with Jake Rudock.
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Aug 30, 2017 02:27
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xsf421 posted:It won't be the biggest for very long. I think a few big names are coming up next off-season that should beat Stafford's contract. Cousins is probably the big one. Honestly, the Lions probably got lucky that Washington hosed up their negotiations this offseason-if Cousins had managed to sign a "New Biggest Contract (TM)", that probably would've pushed Stafford's deal even higher.
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Aug 30, 2017 02:28
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Drafting Jake Rudock is the most evil thing that Bob Quinn has ever done.
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i'd gladly pay matt stafford $27m to be fat and good for the vikings.
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Aug 30, 2017 02:57
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Jake Rudock is a proven winner, you can't teach that
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Flikken posted:Stafford is not Average though, he has produced a lot pretty consistently throughout his career. He hasn't been below 4000 yards passing since 2010 and throws more touchdowns than turnovers. That is worth a lot in this league, if you have him you hold onto him until he becomes a liablity. Oh I agree, I'm just saying that the Lions have p much no choice but to pay him a ton because of the situation.
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Aug 30, 2017 05:51
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I wonder how far a team like Houston would go to make a trade for Stafford if the Lions stumble out the gate and decide it's time to rebuild.
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Flikken posted:Stafford is not Average though, he has produced a lot pretty consistently throughout his career. He hasn't been below 4000 yards passing since 2010 and throws more touchdowns than turnovers. That is worth a lot in this league, if you have him you hold onto him until he becomes a liablity. https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/902557860713816064
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Aug 30, 2017 06:04
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Matt Stafford: Has a soul. Andy Dalton: Does not have a soul. Game point, Stafford.
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Aug 30, 2017 09:09
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Gonz posted:Matt Stafford: Has a soul. Stafford also can play in primetime
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Aug 30, 2017 10:38
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Flikken posted:Stafford also can play in primetime Have you seen the Lions on national TV? They do better than Cincinnati, but not by much.
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Flikken posted:Stafford also can play in primetime Lions Playoffs wins with Stafford: 0.
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