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I think we can all agree that Descent 1e had better art than Descent 2e does though(seriously it's amazing how generic the art became in the second edition)
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Aug 27, 2017 20:53
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ProfessorCirno posted:...But is it better then DoomRL??? It's a tough bar to meet, DoomRL is one of the most elegantly designed games I've ever seen in any medium.
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Aug 27, 2017 20:56
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What about Brutal Doom, the greatest contribution to civilization and art by my country
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Aug 27, 2017 20:57
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drrockso20 posted:I think we can all agree that Descent 1e had better art than Descent 2e does though(seriously it's amazing how generic the art became in the second edition) That's because most of the Descent 1e art was cribbed from Runebound.
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Aug 27, 2017 20:59
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Plutonis posted:What about Brutal Doom, the greatest contribution to civilization and art by my country by a literal nazi who indulges in actual gore porn. Seriously, SgtMarkIV is trash. Project Brutality is an okay refinement and that's it.
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Aug 27, 2017 21:25
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Arivia posted:by a literal nazi who indulges in actual gore porn.
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Aug 27, 2017 21:57
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Arivia posted:by a literal nazi who indulges in actual gore porn. Truly, now there are no gatekeepers to the FPS hobby.
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Aug 27, 2017 22:07
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Plutonis posted:What about Brutal Doom, the greatest contribution to civilization and art by my country Hey now, don't hate on Aleijadinho 
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Aug 27, 2017 22:13
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hyphz posted:Original Doom is brutally hard. Original Descent is stupidly easy. I can agree with that. Original Doom was really unbalanced in favor of the demons but Descent put way too many checks on the baddie there and made it a cake walk. If I didn't already have entirely too many board game dungeon crawler I'd pick up the new Doom but there's too many in my place already that never see the table. Also related what's the easiest way to take a game with a loving boatload of cards and make the cards digital? I have no experience with coding but goddamn Shadows of Brimstone has too many decks and that's part of why it doesn't hit the table that often. I found an iOS thing called card vault that sounds promising, you take pictures of the cards and it automatically puts them in decks you can shuffle and deal from anyone use that?
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Aug 27, 2017 23:32
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Yawgmoth posted:But enough about Blood in the Chocolate. There's a huge difference between including something in a fictional text and editing your popular mod to replace the fake gore with actual images of dead bodies, murder, etc.
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Aug 28, 2017 00:29
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Len posted:Also related what's the easiest way to take a game with a loving boatload of cards and make the cards digital? I have no experience with coding but goddamn Shadows of Brimstone has too many decks and that's part of why it doesn't hit the table that often. I found an iOS thing called card vault that sounds promising, you take pictures of the cards and it automatically puts them in decks you can shuffle and deal from anyone use that? I thought Card Vault was for, like, credit cards!?
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Aug 28, 2017 02:02
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hyphz posted:I thought Card Vault was for, like, credit cards!? It might be. Cardwarden was the thing I found. Couldn't pull it up because I was phone posting and that is not iOS and they do not make it easy for us scrubs on Android to look up things about glorious iOS
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Aug 28, 2017 05:49
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Plutonis posted:What about Brutal Doom, the greatest contribution to civilization and art by my country not even better than chroma squad imo
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Aug 28, 2017 14:47
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dwarf74 posted:Yeah, it's a lot more outright regular, disturbing, and/or body horror than the kind of Lovecraftian cosmic horror, mixed with aliens, reptoids, deros/hollow-earth residents, etc. that I was originally going to lean towards.
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Aug 28, 2017 15:50
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Halloween Jack posted:It's super weird to me that horror is now "Lovecraftian" if the monster has tentacles or is a living shadow or whatever, or if it's just considered especially weird for whatever reason. Like, Silent Hill isn't cosmic horror. It's intensely anthropic horror. Or for a particularly ghoulish example, Carcosa, where the unknowable Lovecraftian entities demand sexy naked virgins for some reason.  (Tentacles optional)In Esoterrorists, the horrors seem a lot more personal and directly malevolent.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:47
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dwarf74 posted:No, I was originally going for literal cosmic horror - unknowable alien beings from beyond time and/or space, whose very existence demonstrates the futility of human existence. The horrors in Esoterrorists is definitely humanistic, even though the monsters resemble Lovecraftian ones. If the Gumshoe system works for you, you could always borrow what you need from Trail of Cthulhu (like the monsters themselves) and adjust it to the time period your game is set. Also on the Pelgrane site there are links to converting CoC material to the Gumshoe system (if you have CoC material on hand).
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Aug 28, 2017 20:14
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Getting my kid started on Avalon Hill.
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Aug 28, 2017 20:16
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DocBubonic posted:The horrors in Esoterrorists is definitely humanistic, even though the monsters resemble Lovecraftian ones. If the Gumshoe system works for you, you could always borrow what you need from Trail of Cthulhu (like the monsters themselves) and adjust it to the time period your game is set. Also on the Pelgrane site there are links to converting CoC material to the Gumshoe system (if you have CoC material on hand).
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I got the oddest idea for an Atomic Robo game. I don't think I can run it so I guess I'll just mention it in case anyone likes it and wants to use it in their own game. It's called: Atomic Robo And The Unnecessarily Deadly School For Brainwashed, Anti-Science Youth. Atomic Robo once had a throw away shorts comic about someone who mistook his scientific achievements as magic and viewed himself as a wizard. And how he attempted to take over the world using his invention but would have likely just blown up a city. The idea for this game plays all that and mixes it with the Harry Potter books that I've been re-reading. It's the 1990s, a series of high-profile, political murders are happening across Britain that don't fall into line with how weapons work. No stab wounds, no signs of poisoning, no bullet wounds, excetera. While there is clear signs of struggle and even a witness confirming it was murder, it seemed as if the person's heart just turned off. The witness is claiming that a cloaked figure used a stick and a magic phrase to kill the individual. Tesladyne ends up diving into the investigation both because the Sparrow asks for help due to the strange nature of the incidenents and for the scientific curiosity of what weapon the murderer is using. This leads to a big conspiracy of individuals who have psychic abilities, like the Russians were experimenting with in the 80s according to the roleplaying book, that have lived in secret in separate societies that believe their powers are magic. This ends up tracing them to a school for these crazy people where Tesladyne believes the killer is living and operating in. A school where these people teach their young how to use their psychic powers, their "magic", and basically indoctrinate them into this cult that laughs at science and tries its best to live as if it were still the 1600s. Basically, it's a pastiche on Voldemort, Harry Potter, and Hogwarts. It's not meant to be a crossover as I find those boring and dumb. More like a homage with a hint of parody. I think it can be pretty fun and would likely not be out of the line for the Atomic Robo universe.
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He didn't mistake science for magic, Jack Parsons was a legitimate rocket scientist who was also rear end deep in Thelemite occultism. He also blew himself the gently caress up at the ripe old age of 37.
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Aug 29, 2017 04:04
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I'd really like to not see anything Harry Potter related for the next 10 years myself
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Mr. Maltose posted:He didn't mistake science for magic, Jack Parsons was a legitimate rocket scientist who was also rear end deep in Thelemite occultism. He also blew himself the gently caress up at the ripe old age of 37. Wait, he's based on a real person? That's a shock!
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This is going to freak you out but literally everybody that's not an action scientist or named HELSINGARD are real people.
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Mr. Maltose posted:This is going to freak you out but literally everybody that's not an action scientist or named HELSINGARD are real people. I mean, I know they like using real people in the comic but I might have missed interpreted how far reaching that was.
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Aug 29, 2017 04:58
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Mr. Maltose posted:He didn't mistake science for magic, Jack Parsons was a legitimate rocket scientist who was also rear end deep in Thelemite occultism. He also blew himself the gently caress up at the ripe old age of 37. Also, possibly L. Ron Hubbard.  Jack Parsons reads like a crazy modern day fantasy character in that he was connected to so many people and tried to summon the Antichrist through a sex ritual.
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Aug 29, 2017 05:33
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Several times! And he may not have blown himself up because several people insist he was murdered for one of a dozen less than probable reasons.
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Mr. Maltose posted:He didn't mistake science for magic, Jack Parsons was a legitimate rocket scientist who was also rear end deep in Thelemite occultism. He also blew himself the gently caress up at the ripe old age of 37. Holy poo poo, this guy's Wikipedia page is solid gold and I'm not even done reading the introduction yet: quote:In 1945 Parsons separated from Helen after having an affair with her sister Sara; when Sara left him for L. Ron Hubbard, he conducted the Babalon Working, a series of rituals designed to invoke the Thelemic goddess Babalon to Earth. He and Hubbard continued the procedure with Marjorie Cameron, whom Parsons married in 1946. After Hubbard and Sara defrauded him of his life savings, Parsons resigned from the O.T.O. and went through various jobs while acting as a consultant for the Israeli rocket program. Amid the climate of McCarthyism, he was accused of espionage and left unable to work in rocketry. In 1952, Parsons died at the age of 37 in a home laboratory explosion that attracted national media attention; the police ruled it an accident, but many associates suspected suicide or assassination. Please tell me he's been a major character in weird-rear end historical fiction novels I can go read.
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Harrow posted:Holy poo poo, this guy's Wikipedia page is solid gold and I'm not even done reading the introduction yet: Ken and Robin Talk About Stuff have more than one segment about him. Apparently he's a character in this: https://www.amazon.com/House-Rumour...4b23965fc5c3e93 but I don't know how major of a character he is, or how historical, or weird-rear end this book is.
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Aug 29, 2017 15:47
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There's a Trail of Cthulhu module ("The Big Hoodoo") that is set squarely in the Parsons/Hubbard situation.quote:The Big Hoodoo is Lovecraftian noir in 1950s California with a ripped-from-history plot centered on the explosive death of real-world rocket scientist, science fiction fan, and occultist Jack Parsons in a garage laboratory in 1952. The investigators are iconic figures active in the science fiction scene at the time of Parsons’ death, and their inquiries lead them from the mean streets of Pasadena to the edge of the Mojave Desert and the mountains of southern California as well as the beaches of Los Angeles.
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Carteret posted:... I saw waaaaay more important poo poo that didn't get a trophy made, like Frank Mentzer getting $3,000 meteorite dice given to him. Hah! Believe it or not, my butler did that. [Edit] The way he tells the story, though, they were only $2000 dice. Maybe he's being humble? Blasphemeral fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Aug 29, 2017 |
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Covok posted:This leads to a big conspiracy of individuals who have psychic abilities, like the Russians were experimenting with in the 80s according to the roleplaying book, that have lived in secret in separate societies that believe their powers are magic. This joke kinda hinges on it being completely absurd to call psychic powers magic. That's splitting a real fine hair.
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:This joke kinda hinges on it being completely absurd to call psychic powers magic. That's splitting a real fine hair. It isn't, but the reason why is kind of subtle. It's not the distinction between magic powers and psychic powers that matters, it's the distinction between mysticism and reason -- the word "magic" is just a stand-in.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:It isn't, but the reason why is kind of subtle. It's not the distinction between magic powers and psychic powers that matters, it's the distinction between mysticism and reason -- the word "magic" is just a stand-in. Also, according to the AR Core Roleplaying book, experiments into psychic abilities by the Soviets were successful so that falls into the "plausible by their science" as well as "explainable, quantifiable, testable, and etc." When you just go "it's magic", you basically accept the premise its unexplainable and apply mysticism to something that could eventually be reduced to a science if rational thought was applied. I mean, Undead Edison is a supervillain in the series and is a "ghost" created by Edison leaving an imprint of his consciousness on an inter-dimensional energy field. So, having one character experience an extremely crazy event that stretches our understanding of science be met with skepticism and reason by another character who explains it is not outside the series norm. It's a pretty big part of the "Shadow From Outside Time" story arc when Kid Robo is conversing with the Author over the nature of Not-Cthulhu. "Listen, you got a model that was able to predict it's movements. That's good and it means we can figure this thing out. Now, we just need to make it predict faster."
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Harrow posted:Holy poo poo, this guy's Wikipedia page is solid gold and I'm not even done reading the introduction yet: Yeah I had a setting concept once revolving around the Babalon Working, I should see if I can find my notes for it
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Aug 29, 2017 20:28
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Blasphemeral posted:Hah! Believe it or not, my butler did that. Hey, yeah, here's the video of the auction. It was $3000. He's chuckling to himself in the other room about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIvWWNYVHJo
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Aug 29, 2017 21:55
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Blasphemeral posted:Hey, yeah, here's the video of the auction. It was $3000. You have a butler?
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Aug 29, 2017 21:57
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*imagines a jeeves looking motherfucker and the monopoly man at gen con * That's a funny mental image.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:08
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The butler is obviously Wadsworth from Clue/do.
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Harrow posted:
In the Last Days of New Paris by China Mieville he goes to France during WW2, hangs out with the surrealist community and is inspired to create a surrealist bomb.
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