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LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


Judge Schnoopy posted:

Another benefit of reading the SA forums. This triggered something in my mind: my password database is stored on the file server. If the file server goes down and I need to start getting in to network equipment, websites, and hardware to restore a new environment, where am i going to get the passwords from?

Queue me getting a physical copy of these passwords and storing them in a locked cabinet in the locked server room, thank you.

Glad to be of help. Put some monthly/quarterly reminder in your agenda to update the physical copies if necessary.

Also, store them in multiple locations if you work at more than 1 office.

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Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy
I guess I'm just surprised at the sheer volume of people that seem to do it, and not one of them ever recalls doing it themselves. Had me wondering if some program out there does it during its installation or something, which would be bizarre.

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
Question for those of you who fly business class for work. Can you call ahead and get a cheaper than advertised rate? I checked yesterday and the upgrade was $950 but the offer amount started at $420. If i had called like 6 hours ahead would it still have been on the high end?

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

What is the benefit for a random person hard-coding their laptop's DNS settings to query Google (8.8.8.8) as opposed to letting it configure itself automatically? I keep having to help students that can't acccess our internal resources while on the campus wifi because they're not using our DNS. I ask them if they put that there for a reason and they never remember doing it, and tell me it's okay to clear it out, which of course resolves the problem.

Given the demographic your talking about, it's the easiest way to get around a lot of ISP level torrent site filtering.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

Rudager posted:

Given the demographic your talking about, it's the easiest way to get around a lot of ISP level torrent site filtering.

I was just coming to post this.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Japanese Dating Sim posted:

What is the benefit for a random person hard-coding their laptop's DNS settings to query Google (8.8.8.8) as opposed to letting it configure itself automatically? I keep having to help students that can't acccess our internal resources while on the campus wifi because they're not using our DNS. I ask them if they put that there for a reason and they never remember doing it, and tell me it's okay to clear it out, which of course resolves the problem.

Why can’t they use public dns? Are you using internal only dns? Did you make up a tld

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari



Yeah but the guy who was put on leave can't access this stuff anymore either. Ticket closed, request fulfilled.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

jaegerx posted:

Why can’t they use public dns? Are you using internal only dns? Did you make up a tld

I'm so far removed from our DNS that I have no idea, unfortunately. Something for me to look at.

siggy2021
Mar 8, 2010
I talked to a recruiter for the first time today. The job sounded pretty good, but it was a contract position with the possibility of being permanent and that was scary as I've never done that before.. I decided I'd check it out anyway, as it was a significant pay bump (about 42%). Then he sent me over a couple of emails, including benefits information. For a comparable but slightly worse plan to what I have now the premiums would be enough that I would only be making about 13% more, so I passed.

Is this the norm in the contract/recruiter world?

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

jaegerx posted:

Why can’t they use public dns? Are you using internal only dns? Did you make up a tld

Why would you publish internal-only, privately addressed sites/services on a public DNS server?

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

siggy2021 posted:

I talked to a recruiter for the first time today. The job sounded pretty good, but it was a contract position with the possibility of being permanent and that was scary as I've never done that before.. I decided I'd check it out anyway, as it was a significant pay bump (about 42%). Then he sent me over a couple of emails, including benefits information. For a comparable but slightly worse plan to what I have now the premiums would be enough that I would only be making about 13% more, so I passed.

Is this the norm in the contract/recruiter world?

It is normal for them to offer you the benefits plan. Make sure you know when you are eligible, do you get it while on contract? If not you need a bump to adjust for that. Also be honest that looking at your total compensation the offer is simply not compelling.

Also contract to hire is bullshit.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

H110Hawk posted:

It is normal for them to offer you the benefits plan. Make sure you know when you are eligible, do you get it while on contract? If not you need a bump to adjust for that. Also be honest that looking at your total compensation the offer is simply not compelling.

Also contract to hire is bullshit.

Contract to hire is for suckers. Its basically your employer trying to recoup the recruiter costs out of your salary in a lot of cases.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





n0tqu1tesane posted:

Why would you publish internal-only, privately addressed sites/services on a public DNS server?

In a situation like this, where you don't always have control over DNS it makes sense to have public DNS entries. Also, with THE CLOUD and hybrid infrastructures, at this point I lean towards making public DNS entries for services rather than not.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

n0tqu1tesane posted:

Why would you publish internal-only, privately addressed sites/services on a public DNS server?

In the context of a college campus network, the student-accessible wifi is effectively a public network. There's no good reason for much of anything they should care to access from there to not also be accessible from the internet as a whole.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


n0tqu1tesane posted:

Why would you publish internal-only, privately addressed sites/services on a public DNS server?

Security through obscurity isn’t security

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Hell get rid of dns. Use consul for everything

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Sickening posted:

Contract to hire is for suckers. Its basically your employer trying to recoup the recruiter costs out of your salary in a lot of cases.

It may be but there's a lot of potentially good IT Jobs that begin CtH.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

Internet Explorer posted:

In a situation like this, where you don't always have control over DNS it makes sense to have public DNS entries. Also, with THE CLOUD and hybrid infrastructures, at this point I lean towards making public DNS entries for services rather than not.

I'm assuming you can selectively choose which hosts to publish to public DNS and leave others (e.g., random client machines) internal-only?

It's a nice thought. I'm not even in the department, much less the team, that does our DNS though. I'm constantly having problems because they disabled DNS aging and scavenging because it "caused problems with UNIX" so instead they manually delete entries that the various teams report as having incorrect host/IP entries. So I doubt something that exposes anything to the public is waaaay too forward-thinking for us.

There are many things in IT that I have no experience with and thus don't feel that great saying when something sounds wrong, but this is one of those where I feel pretty safe in thinking that it's dumb.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



90% of jobs around here are contract or C2H. Some lovely, some good.

What does "your pod" mean? I see "get back in your pod" sometimes, but I'm not sure what it means.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Tab8715 posted:

It may be but there's a lot of potentially good IT Jobs that begin CtH.
Maybe my impressions are wrong, but to me, contract-to-hire is an organizational smell that suggests the company is unable to terminate underperformers once they hire them.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

22 Eargesplitten posted:

90% of jobs around here are contract or C2H. Some lovely, some good.

What does "your pod" mean? I see "get back in your pod" sometimes, but I'm not sure what it means.

A pod is a really kushy, well-paying job with a lower than average level of stress. Generally also accompanies semi current tech, etc. That's how I interpret it anyway.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Japanese Dating Sim posted:

A pod is a really kushy, well-paying job with a lower than average level of stress. Generally also accompanies semi current tech, etc. That's how I interpret it anyway.

Well, I'm in CO so I have that covered at least.

I guess I have my pod now.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Well, I'm in CO so I have that covered at least.

I guess I have my pod now.

Haha, whoops. Well, either way..

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

The saga continues and it is loving beautiful...

Since this individual was placed on "some type of leave" our CIO realized that we don't have a proper protocol in place for resetting passwords on devices once an IT staff member leaves or is terminated.
So... he gave the responsibility to our poor network engineer who is already overloaded with several concurrent projects (that are all gonna get ripped out in a few weeks when we begin building renovations).

Our Network Engineer went dutifully about creating new passwords for everything.
He typed them all up in notepad, didn't save it, changed the passwords and went home for the weekend. His computer rebooted because patches were set to install over the weekend.
We have a password manager (like last pass) but apparently that didn't save his changes either somehow.
So... now we don't have a way to get into almost anything and it's loving hilarious.

This is getting so ridiculous my troll sense is tingling. Who was the dude that had us all convinced his boss had changed his title to "counter cyber terrorist specialist" or something in response him finding guys browsing porn at work, then started asking "hey so is there some technology that will let me centrally authenticate and manage Windows PC's? Never heard of anything like that but maybe it exists?"

Not actually accusing you of trolling, just wanted to remind everyone of that hilarious week or so in this thread.

Super Slash posted:

I am way too reliant on Notepad++ just remembering stuff and continuing where you left off when it was last closed, even if you've not saved the file.

TextMate on OS X loving owns for this reason, too. I think it's actually an OS feature at this point so maybe other text editors get it for free, but I just know it works in TM and it rules.

Sickening posted:

r/systadmin is a silly place. Heckle people like this at all cost. Your goal is the be the person who this post is hating on.

/r/sysadmin's only value is absolutely as a repository of What Not To Do. Such a cesspool of negativity and bad advice. Stark contrast to SH/SC which is 100% legitimately one of the best public IT communities I've ever come across :glomp: An earlier version of this thread was instrumental in getting me out of a rut and on the path to making more than 3x what I was earning at that time (not all in one job jump, but over the course of several years). So thanks, goons. Keep being cool and good.

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo

Docjowles posted:

Stark contrast to SH/SC which is 100% legitimately one of the best public very exclusive $10 membership IT communities I've ever come across :glomp: An earlier version of this thread was instrumental in getting me out of a rut and on the path to making more than 3x what I was earning at that time (not all in one job jump, but over the course of several years). So thanks, goons. Keep being cool and good.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Docjowles posted:

This is getting so ridiculous my troll sense is tingling. Who was the dude that had us all convinced his boss had changed his title to "counter cyber terrorist specialist" or something in response him finding guys browsing porn at work, then started asking "hey so is there some technology that will let me centrally authenticate and manage Windows PC's? Never heard of anything like that but maybe it exists?"

Not actually accusing you of trolling, just wanted to remind everyone of that hilarious week or so in this thread.

I just posted about Turtlicious in the poo poo that Pisses You Off thread. That was pretty wild but the guy tipped his hand talking claiming he worked in San Francisco on farmland wages

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

LMAO I forgot about the presentation done in a tuxedo with white gloves. Yeah that was when it finally became 900% obvious he was trolling the poo poo out of us all.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Docjowles posted:

This is getting so ridiculous my troll sense is tingling. Who was the dude that had us all convinced his boss had changed his title to "counter cyber terrorist specialist" or something in response him finding guys browsing porn at work, then started asking "hey so is there some technology that will let me centrally authenticate and manage Windows PC's? Never heard of anything like that but maybe it exists?"

Not actually accusing you of trolling, just wanted to remind everyone of that hilarious week or so in this thread.


TextMate on OS X loving owns for this reason, too. I think it's actually an OS feature at this point so maybe other text editors get it for free, but I just know it works in TM and it rules.


/r/sysadmin's only value is absolutely as a repository of What Not To Do. Such a cesspool of negativity and bad advice. Stark contrast to SH/SC which is 100% legitimately one of the best public IT communities I've ever come across :glomp: An earlier version of this thread was instrumental in getting me out of a rut and on the path to making more than 3x what I was earning at that time (not all in one job jump, but over the course of several years). So thanks, goons. Keep being cool and good.

There was a time in 07 where I also didn't have a spine. I had supervisors that made me feel like they were doing me a favor by letting me have a job and I had my high hopes were making level2 at a call center.

I don't even remember the names of the posters back then who were posting poo poo we just echo today. There was a lot of solid advice though. Whoever that rude fucker that told me to stop being a doormat back then was, thanks. I needed it.

Dark Helmut
Jul 24, 2004

All growns up

Vulture Culture posted:

Maybe my impressions are wrong, but to me, contract-to-hire is an organizational smell that suggests the company is unable to terminate underperformers once they hire them.

It's been a while since I've done anything but lurk in this thread, but CtH is a pretty common practice. In agency recruiting I did at least as many CtH as direct hires. Sometimes the agency pushes it, as recurring monthly revenue (contract) beats a one time lump sum in most cases. Sometimes the hiring manager can't get the direct hire fee approved but can get a consulting budget approved, allowing the conversion to take place after the fee is worked off (usually 6 months but I've seen as short as 3).

For what it's worth, I've put my money where my mouth is. My current job as a corporate recruiter started as a 6 month contract to hire. I did my part and they did theirs. Sure, it doesn't always work out and there are horror stories out there but in 7 years I've only seen one company not hire a CtH person due to budget issues. Underperformance is another issue...

I'm not saying it's a fit for everyone but it isn't necessarily bad. That said, I now only recruit direct hire IT candidates for this company...

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

I guess I'm just surprised at the sheer volume of people that seem to do it, and not one of them ever recalls doing it themselves. Had me wondering if some program out there does it during its installation or something, which would be bizarre.

It's a common troubleshooting step or tip for improved web surfing. It's meant to either figure out if an apparent lack of internet connection is just because of your ISP DNS being flaky that day or not, and if the ISP does have long term flaky DNS it will improve an average user experience.

So this is something they were probably advised to do to fix a transient problem or will commonly be set by things like PC Tune Up software they run to speed things up. There's also the mentioned avoiding some ISP filtering thing too. And since it rarely causes problems itself, no one is going to remember to set things back to "get DNS server automatically".

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Dark Helmut posted:

It's been a while since I've done anything but lurk in this thread, but CtH is a pretty common practice. In agency recruiting I did at least as many CtH as direct hires.

It being common place doesn't make it correct. Did those candidates receive full benefits during their contract period? If not, compensation for the reduced pay?

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

I guess I'm just surprised at the sheer volume of people that seem to do it, and not one of them ever recalls doing it themselves. Had me wondering if some program out there does it during its installation or something, which would be bizarre.

What happened at the university where I used to run into this problem a lot: it was either done by some weird copy of a legit program downloaded through an unofficial site, so the installer was tampered with (people clicking the spam link, basically). people ended up with DNS addresses like 219.298.48.1 (and strangely enough, fallbacks: 8.8.8.8 + 8.8.4.4) or during an ISP DNS issue they followed some online instructions to "solve" it and forgot about it.

Supporting "Digital Natives" was fun.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:
I use Google DNS on my Laptop so none of you fuckers can redirect all my open tabs to your stupid internal website or splash page.

mewse
May 2, 2006

SEKCobra posted:

I use Google DNS on my Laptop so none of you fuckers can redirect all my open tabs to your stupid internal website or splash page.

I'm gonna redirect your DNS queries :henget:

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe
Count me in as someone who has gained alot from just reading these threads for the last few years, I don't read on weekends but I do read it every workday.
Edit: I too was a huge idiot. I was mostly lurking but I finally mustered up the courage to make a post about my situation back in 2012/2013. It was a rude awakening, but I really needed it. even though i didn't go through with suing I really appreciate the people that reached out to help me.

Sefal fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Aug 29, 2017

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Thank you, thread, for making me realize that working 12 days on, two days off wasn't a reasonable situation of just paying my dues. Now I'm making above the median household income by myself as a high school dropout.

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!
Yeah definitely do not read these threads on your own time when you could be getting paid to do it instead.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Thank you, thread, for making me realize that working 12 days on, two days off wasn't a reasonable situation of just paying my dues. Now I'm making above the median household income by myself as a high school dropout.
:yotj:

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
I haven't needed the threads to help pull me out of hell (yet) and I hope I never do, but there's certainly much to be learned from our pool of knowledge here.

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Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
I got my first IT job in 2006 from one of these threads so that was nice.

This Hilton I'm staying at in Vancouver is the worst. Bugs, tv stopped working, and the sheets are dirty. But at least the Wi-Fi is good

Sepist fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Aug 29, 2017

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