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Hey man, all this stat talk is stressing you out. Come (smoke) (The Bole) over here, man.
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So I had put Warrior down when the Expansion launched and only just picked it back up. It feels fun, but I just got Onslaught and I'm not sure how to get the most out of it. Is there a good Warrior guide for me to reference?
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isk posted:Man, an 8 hour maintenance for this seems bonkers. Hail Tanaka I suppose Oh yeah, totally, Hail Tanaka. gently caress Yoshi-P. /s i am tim! posted:So I had put Warrior down when the Expansion launched and only just picked it back up. It feels fun, but I just got Onslaught and I'm not sure how to get the most out of it. Is there a good Warrior guide for me to reference? Often, whenever it comes off cooldown. Part of the problem is that Onslaught can't be used unless you have some Beast Gauge. That means unless you're carrying some from, say, trash mobs, or the previous big pull, you can't use it to start off fights, despite every instinct in your body telling you that it's how you SHOULD be using it in stuff like 8-man content. It's a fun skill that turns you into a bloodseeking missile. You can start to use it a little more tactically later. Think about how a MNK would use Shoulder Tackle, for example. By which I mean, "cheese the poo poo out of knockback effects". SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Aug 29, 2017 |
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Die Sexmonster! posted:Hey man, all this stat talk is stressing you out. Come (smoke) (The Bole) over here, man. Nice
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a kitten posted:Patch notes are out Sure am glad they cut the game off in US prime for poo poo that could have waited till "Who cares"
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Aug 29, 2017 15:05
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there's always prime time somewhere in the world
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Rhymenoserous posted:Sure am glad they cut the game off in US prime for poo poo that could have waited till "Who cares" As a yuro  my sweet summer child
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yeah man let's make sure that country nobody gives a poo poo about has time to play video games naw man they're gonna run maintenance when nobody's playing the game in Japan and you're gonna just DWI. the maintenance runs from 11am to 7pm in Japan time to facilitate them not having to pay insane amount of money to people for doing off hours work
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Aug 29, 2017 16:01
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SpaceDrake posted:So wait, just to be sure: I previously had it drilled into my head that, for this tier of content and gear at least, it was DH > all for RDM. In practice though all it means is you might have a few extra DH melds that could instead be crit for a small bump. Dps really don't have many gear options at the moment.
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the truth is that with there being up to four beneficial substat for every job now, the only way you can properly determine what to do with your gear is to compile sets of gear and melds and food and run those through a simulator and see what DPS comes out I built a DPS simulator that takes N time and plays Samurai for that duration and tells me the result for every gear set I send it, and the results were surprising!
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Aug 29, 2017 16:20
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happy page 420
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Aug 29, 2017 16:38
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we must needs blaze it, warrior of light
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Aug 29, 2017 16:46
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A true water pipe of legend that shines with such brilliance that it is said even Doggs would beg for a whiff of its contents.
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pray, return to the baking sands
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Aug 29, 2017 16:50
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new crafting class: glassblower, starts at level 420
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Get that HQ grass
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Blockhouse posted:happy page 420 {Smoke} {The Bole} and get {Stone}.
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the warrior of weed's power is mimicked by the Resinant
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This year's Rising is great. I'd like to see the Cheap Dungeon back soon.
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SonicRulez posted:This year's Rising is great. I'd like to see the Cheap Dungeon back soon. you can play it again from a toy box in an inn room
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unfortunately once you solve Cheap Dungeon once you forever know the answer and it just becomes an exercise in seeing how quickly you can move through the maze
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Beyond Savage requires you to solve a randomly generated Cheap Dungeon while also fighting Neo ExDeath using the same movement controls for both and with pit traps and teleport mazes thrown in.
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Countblanc posted:unfortunately once you solve Cheap Dungeon once you forever know the answer and it just becomes an exercise in seeing how quickly you can move through the maze I was really hoping there would be a turn based fight in there. Oh well.
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The weed AST
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Also I'm sure most people picked it up but the area you go to in the Rising event is the jail GMs use when lecturing players.
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kind of surprisingly, i've never been sent to GM jail before
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Based on the quality of people I get df'd with I assumed I was already in some kind of gm jail/shitlist.
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Countblanc posted:unfortunately once you solve Cheap Dungeon once you forever know the answer and it just becomes an exercise in seeing how quickly you can move through the maze I want the Cheap Dungeon music as an Orchestrion roll.
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So a friend of mine has convinced me to try this game out and I'm kind of paralyzed by class choice. I played a ton of DPS Warrior in WoW but it looks like all the plate wearing classes are tanks? Dragoon looks interesting but I've heard from a friend of a friend that they're kind of poo poo right now. I just want to hit things with a big rear end weapon but not pigeon hole myself into an undesirable role at the end game
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{Burning Strike} {The Bole} {Smoke} {Up} {I'll deal the first blow} {Puff of Darkness} {You can have this} {Get hit}
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Bolow posted:So a friend of mine has convinced me to try this game out and I'm kind of paralyzed by class choice. I played a ton of DPS Warrior in WoW but it looks like all the plate wearing classes are tanks? Dragoon looks interesting but I've heard from a friend of a friend that they're kind of poo poo right now. It is remarkably easy to change classes if you find you don't like the one you're playing. Any job below your highest level class gives a massive EXP bonus and there are several classes (Dark Knight, Mechanist, Astrologian, Red Mage and Samurai) who begin at an elevated level once they're unlocked. Don't stress yourself out. Pick what looks interesting and if you don't like it then swap. If you want to hit things with a big-rear end weapon your best choice is a tank class or Dragoon or maybe Samurai but the latter takes a while to unlock.
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None of the roles are undesirable outside of cutting edge meta groups. Tanks are basically just DPS classes with more health and less offensive cooldowns. Dragoons good, friend. Encounter design right now just doesn't play well with it's new core ability. It still however provides pretty good DPS and welcome utility to any party, especially with a Bard or Machinist in the mix.
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my dragoon is still 60 but fwiw dragoons I've talked to say the class is fine. they get hosed by big gaps in uptime but there aren't many of those this cycle. Damage-wise they are slightly above ninja, and their aoe crit-boost is still very desirable in a team-comp.
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Bolow posted:So a friend of mine has convinced me to try this game out and I'm kind of paralyzed by class choice. I played a ton of DPS Warrior in WoW but it looks like all the plate wearing classes are tanks? Dragoon looks interesting but I've heard from a friend of a friend that they're kind of poo poo right now. First of all you can (and are incouraged) to play every class on one character, youre not stuck in anything. Other classes get a huge xp boost if you have another class at a higher level. But the roles in FF14 are very strict. Tanks tank and DPS kill stuff. People complain about class imbalance in this game but its not like WoW. Every class is viable even at the cutting edge content. If the best class in the game is an A+ grade, the worst class is still getting an A/A-
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Bolow posted:So a friend of mine has convinced me to try this game out and I'm kind of paralyzed by class choice. I played a ton of DPS Warrior in WoW but it looks like all the plate wearing classes are tanks? Dragoon looks interesting but I've heard from a friend of a friend that they're kind of poo poo right now. Dragoons are fun to play and if you can handle keeping up with all your off GCD abilities and positioning they're in a really good spot right now. A lot of people (myself included) are not able to do that, so most of them think that means the class is bad.
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the two jobs people reddit memers and goon shitposters consider the "worst" are machinist and warrior. both of those classes are, in fact, extremely desirable in the most difficult raiding content in the game right now. besides, class balance in this game teeters constantly, if you level a class you don't like because it's good right now it'll probably be trash by the time you hit level capped content.
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Something else important to note is that the plate/leather/etc distinction doesn't really carry over from WoW, gear is purely by mainstat rather than on armor tiers. Amount of inherent physical defense and max HP on gear goes in order: Tanks>Dragoon>Monk=Samurai>Ninja=Bard=Machinist>Magic DPS=Healers. Magic defense is Tanks>Magic DPS=Healers>Physical DPS. Mister Olympus fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Aug 29, 2017 |
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There's no class you're going to play that is actually detrimental to have unless you're playing them remarkably badly and that is true of pretty much every class. The major difference between classes right now outside of the absolute high-end content is how fast you can clear dungeons and anyone who is being snippy at anew player for not clearing a dungeon fast enough is probably going to be a poo poo regardless of the class you play. Just play what looks fun to you and don't worry about it. 90% of FFXIV's community are insanely nice people and the other 10% are usually safely sequestered in end-game content.
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