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rudatron posted:Do you guys think bylaws and such are just totally irrelevant, to be ignored when it's convenient? It's not the role of the NPC to creatively interpret resolutions and bylaws, until they reach the outcome that the people yelling at them want them to reach: it's their job to follow a procedure, to the best of their ability. That's it. They've done that. That's the most you can expect. witness, another "leftist" cucked in the wild by their own logic
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I can't wait until this issue is resolved and I can go back to not giving a poo poo about Austin.
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Halloween Jack posted:I can't wait until this issue is resolved and I can go back to not giving a poo poo about Austin. bad choice buddy Austin was never worth giving a poo poo about to begin with
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Syndlig posted:bad choice buddy Austin was never worth giving a poo poo about to begin with but can't you move there if you're artsy?
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Over Easy posted:but can't you move there if you're artsy? no you move there if you're a "socially liberal/fiscally conservative" white hipster
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Syndlig posted:In the spirit of forcing y'all motherfuckers to read more google docs here's the minority vote's statement on mediation/the vote. this is real good please read it
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Fentonte enforcing his will upon this org should break the fantasy that socialism will win without authoritarian measures
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lol @ dsa still spending zillions of hours fighting over 1 of the 14 or whatever votes on a powerless national org rather than promoting its agenda just lol
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Phi230 posted:Fentonte enforcing his will upon this org should break the fantasy that socialism will win without authoritarian measures Yeahhhh
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Yeahhhh Imagine thinking leftism will gain and maintain power in a nation where the majority of the electorate are a combination of left hating centrists, Nazis, and bootlicking liberals Like lmao you can't even oust a fat cop Phi230 has issued a correction as of 16:58 on Aug 29, 2017 |
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Concerned Citizen posted:lol @ dsa still spending zillions of hours fighting over 1 of the 14 or whatever votes on a powerless national org rather than promoting its agenda danny's power... it is too great...
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Yeah it's interesting to see leftist orgs hang themselves by their own stupid laws and processes the same way other leftist groups throughout history have always fallen prey to single idiot assholes who know full well how to take advantage of wobbly kneed bearacracy to attain and hold on to power.
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Except he has like virtually no power
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Well in the spirit of solidarity in all the stuff that's been going on lately, I've decided to join the DSA and show my support for others who share my political beliefs, guess I'll start checking the DSA thread to see what's going on oh ok
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Concerned Citizen posted:lol @ dsa still spending zillions of hours fighting over 1 of the 14 or whatever votes on a powerless national org rather than promoting its agenda
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COOL CORN posted:Well in the spirit of solidarity in all the stuff that's been going on lately, I've decided to join the DSA and show my support for others who share my political beliefs, guess I'll start checking the DSA thread to see what's going on username/post combo of the century
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Karl Barks posted:Except he has like virtually no power he has basically unopposed power over his local, which is the actual problem. the NPC is pointless lol
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the bitcoin of weed posted:he has basically unopposed power over his local, which is the actual problem. the NPC is pointless lol he hasn't been through a local election since the membership surge though. and if he is as disliked in austin as people make out they should have no problem removing him in november.
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the bitcoin of weed posted:he has basically unopposed power over his local, which is the actual problem. the NPC is pointless lol Hmm seems like a different argument then what people have been saying
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COOL CORN posted:Well in the spirit of solidarity in all the stuff that's been going on lately, I've decided to join the DSA and show my support for others who share my political beliefs, guess I'll start checking the DSA thread to see what's going on
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"I will only join a leftist movement that suffers from no infighting and moves swiftly from victory to victory on a tide of hilarious memes." - A Serious Leftist
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things'll be fine folks focus on your fight
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drat we're at 60k
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It's a good thing the DSA isn't a centralized organization. It means when poo poo doesn't go your way nationally you just keep trucking locally doing good stuff.
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jarofpiss posted:drat we're at 60k oh for real?
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jarofpiss posted:drat we're at 60k hell yeah
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Al-Saqr posted:oh for real? yeah and our revolution just sent out a national email. we may be dealing with a lot more soon.
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jarofpiss posted:yeah and our revolution just sent out a national email. we may be dealing with a lot more soon. Our revolution is telling people to join DSA?
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Karl Barks posted:Our revolution is telling people to join DSA? that would be bananas if that's the case, the DSA got some really big hitters like Linda Sarsour, an endorsement by Our Revolution would be a huge deal.
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the bitcoin of weed posted:he has basically unopposed power over his local, which is the actual problem. the NPC is pointless lol Earlier someone said that when important votes come up, he's able to get a bunch of members who support him to show up and vote for him.
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why am I not in the OP under Illinois?!
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zegermans posted:why am I not in the OP under Illinois?! Absolutely not
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Karl Barks posted:Our revolution is telling people to join DSA? sharing the houston dsa donation fund
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houston dsa has raised over $60k for relief efforts here, our revolution is sharing our donation link apparently. not 60k dsa members, sorry.
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jarofpiss posted:drat we're at 60k
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Syndlig posted:In the spirit of forcing y'all motherfuckers to read more google docs here's the minority vote's statement on mediation/the vote. a good, if disappointing, read.
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Mind if I ask a question about police abolition? When I hear the term, the first thing i think of is Paul Bremer firing all of the Baathist police and officers in Iraq, and how many of the fired Baathists joined ISIS. Obviously the current police system is terrible and must be changed, but I fear that completely eliminating the police will lead to a large pool of unemployed racists used to abusing authority, and create some sort of Freikorps/Klan hybrid. The stated goals in the DSA platform all involve police/criminal justice reforms (and are great), but is police abolition even possible?
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GoluboiOgon posted:Mind if I ask a question about police abolition? When I hear the term, the first thing i think of is Paul Bremer firing all of the Baathist police and officers in Iraq, and how many of the fired Baathists joined ISIS. Obviously the current police system is terrible and must be changed, but I fear that completely eliminating the police will lead to a large pool of unemployed racists used to abusing authority, and create some sort of Freikorps/Klan hybrid. The stated goals in the DSA platform all involve police/criminal justice reforms (and are great), but is police abolition even possible? wasnt it just prisons that should be abolished and police simply massively reformed?
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GoluboiOgon posted:Mind if I ask a question about police abolition? When I hear the term, the first thing i think of is Paul Bremer firing all of the Baathist police and officers in Iraq, and how many of the fired Baathists joined ISIS. Obviously the current police system is terrible and must be changed, but I fear that completely eliminating the police will lead to a large pool of unemployed racists used to abusing authority, and create some sort of Freikorps/Klan hybrid. The stated goals in the DSA platform all involve police/criminal justice reforms (and are great), but is police abolition even possible? the reason police need to be abolished is that a shitload of them are already in the klan and they can do much more damage from a position of unquestioned authority but no generally the position is "replace the police with something completely incomparable to current police that is actually responsible and accountable"
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To avoid confusion between the police, The police, and The Police here's a useful guide: the police are the current law enforcement personnel The police are tools of the capital oligarchy state The Police is a rock band Reform/replace the police Abolish The police Rock on to The Police.
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