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angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

Garage2Roadtrip posted:

Nice! there's a skill I don't have yet, but hope to work towards soon!

Yesterday I spent about 6 hours fussing with (and completing) one side of the dually back brakes.

As it happens, I was at firestone this morning, so I had them quote me out doing rear brakes just for laughs. (Mine is an 01, pretty sure yours is exactly the same)

Just loving guess what the quote came up to.

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Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



angryrobots posted:

As it happens, I was at firestone this morning, so I had them quote me out doing rear brakes just for laughs. (Mine is an 01, pretty sure yours is exactly the same)

Just loving guess what the quote came up to.

$600

stevobob
Nov 16, 2008

Alchemy - the study of how to turn LS1's into a 20B. :science:


crutt posted:

Installed a cam, new pushrods, oil pump, timing chain, head gaskets, lifters. also a supercharger. I dont want to turn a wrench for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viaqmRxAxDA

(today being the last week)

God drat man are you going to post more videos and information or what???

Garage2Roadtrip
Oct 27, 2016

That doesn't actually sound that bad. I read on Duramax forums that it books for like 6-8 hours of labor + parts.

It took me like 6 hours yesterday to do the passenger side and like 3 today for the driver's. Only $225ish into parts and I took a couple days off work to do it, so not too bad.

Celebrated with a little evening romp in the twisty mountain roads.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

Tomarse posted:

Now yesterday rather than today, but close.

Welded up a rust hole in the footwell:



was a tricky one as it was double layered due to there being a structural bit underneath, so I had to fix that first



In the process gave myself some nice weld-burn on my arms because it was hot outside and i forgot to go get a jumper.

Then I cleaned out the inside of the car, painted bits of the floor and refitted the headlining and the bumpers and loads more bits of trim to make it look more like an actual car and free up loads of space in my house/shed:




Do you have any plans to prevent that piece from rotting out again? My floor pans rusted in the same place since it'll hold dirt. I'm shooting cold galvanizing spray on there, then undercoating. I may also put a strip of caulk on three sides, leaving one free to drain.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

Garage2Roadtrip posted:

That doesn't actually sound that bad. I read on Duramax forums that it books for like 6-8 hours of labor + parts.

It took me like 6 hours yesterday to do the passenger side and like 3 today for the driver's. Only $225ish into parts and I took a couple days off work to do it, so not too bad.

They quoted 3hrs labor just for the rears, about $900 out the door. That's just the rear brakes.

Ya, I take back what I said earlier...I'll do them myself.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

angryrobots posted:

Ya, I take back what I said earlier...I'll do them myself.

This is me every single time and vehicle ive ever owned after getting a quote for brakes

Garage2Roadtrip
Oct 27, 2016

angryrobots posted:

They quoted 3hrs labor just for the rears, about $900 out the door. That's just the rear brakes.

Ya, I take back what I said earlier...I'll do them myself.

I'm impressed with 3 hours. I'm not sure I could get down to that for both sides of the rear even with a couple more times to practice. $900 is closer to what I've heard, luckily the fronts are normal disk brakes (aside from the weird dually hub spacer - but that just comes right off).

sneakyfrog posted:

This is me every single time and vehicle ive ever owned after getting a quote for brakes

Or nearly any other service.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Garage2Roadtrip posted:

I'm impressed with 3 hours. I'm not sure I could get down to that for both sides of the rear even with a couple more times to practice. $900 is closer to what I've heard, luckily the fronts are normal disk brakes (aside from the weird dually hub spacer - but that just comes right off).


Or nearly any other service.

My favorite is the markup on air filters. $60 or more to pop open a plastic housing and R&R a filter that cost you $2.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Garage2Roadtrip posted:

Or nearly any other service.

If it involves removing the dash, I'll pay for that poo poo.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:
I pay for glass service, that poo poo's hard to do yourself without breaking it.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




I pay for glass, tires/alignments, and terrible rusty jobs now. Before I would tackle them but I'm getting to the point of "gently caress that poo poo." No torch and it's too big of a headache I'd rather pay for.

Though it was painful paying almost $1k for near rear shackles and leaf springs on my beater truck.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

I paid for brakes on the wife's car, because $120 is worth basically not screwing up a Saturday. I have a lot of other poo poo to do. If the next set lasts another 90k, I won't mind paying to have them swapped out again, either.

Re: air filters. Yeah, Honda wanted I think $109 to do the cabin and engine filters. LOL yeah ok. Naw y'all just keep doing oil changes for basically free, and give me a list of the other stuff that's due.

Garage2Roadtrip
Oct 27, 2016

big crush on Chad OMG posted:

My favorite is the markup on air filters. $60 or more to pop open a plastic housing and R&R a filter that cost you $2.

That's lunacy. Although, I guess prey on ppl who don't know poo poo about gently caress with cars?

I'll do a dash, I won't do glass (I have before), but mostly because I want the safelite/speedy warranty on it sealing and stuff. I don't have a Coats or other tire machine, so I outsource that and alignments. I think we can agree that there are services that /have/ to be outsourced unless you happen to have some serious equipment. I refuse to buy a tire machine (especially ones I can afford) because they are scary as gently caress to me (and amortized cost of the machine would mean I'd to change like 40 sets of tires to get back what I have in it, and that would take like 10 years).

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

angryrobots posted:

I paid for brakes on the wife's car, because $120 is worth basically not screwing up a Saturday. I have a lot of other poo poo to do. If the next set lasts another 90k, I won't mind paying to have them swapped out again, either.

Re: air filters. Yeah, Honda wanted I think $109 to do the cabin and engine filters. LOL yeah ok. Naw y'all just keep doing oil changes for basically free, and give me a list of the other stuff that's due.

Engine filter is usually easy as pie but as I understand cabin filters in more annoying models can involve removing part of the dash/lower center console. I'd pay for that because I'd probably scratch the trim.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





The cabin air filter in most Hondas is absurdly easy.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Emptying the glovebox in preparation for swinging it open past the normal stops is the most difficult part of changing it in my wife's Kia.

crutt
Sep 13, 2003
Hamhock Captain.
DOUBLE POST

crutt fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Aug 30, 2017

crutt
Sep 13, 2003
Hamhock Captain.

stevobob posted:

God drat man are you going to post more videos and information or what???

5.3, 212/218 VVT cam, new oil pump, timing chain, timing chain dampener, new lifters, pushrods, valley cover, first time pulling the heads off any vehicle. LSA supercharger off either a cts-v or zl1, zl1 lid, bosch intercooler pump, cxracing heat exchanger, ls3 injectors. Should go pretty good. Waiting on a tune currently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iguSlpHdWaA





:)

crutt fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Aug 30, 2017

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Oh, hey, another TX goon! 'Sup.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Are the 5.3 heads square port or cathedral port?

Huge_Midget
Jun 6, 2002

I don't like the look of it...


RS got an upgrade today.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


IOwnCalculus posted:

Are the 5.3 heads square port or cathedral port?

They should be cathedral ports still.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Cop Porn Popper posted:

They should be cathedral ports still.

Yeah I think only the LS3, LS7, L92, and L99 got rectangle heads, and I don't think you would want to use them on small displacement motors anyway.

Did any 6.0L motors come with them? I don't think so, but I'm not as much up to speed on gen4.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I was curious mostly from the fact that the LSA blower uses square ports, so I'm guessing crutt is running adapter plates.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Do ECU flashes really do stuff?

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


IOwnCalculus posted:

The cabin air filter in most Hondas is absurdly easy.

Good, I'm doing my girlfriend's Jazz/Fit at the weekend.

*edit: :aaaaa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqUJbaigyE

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Huge_Midget posted:



RS got an upgrade today.

oooh nice, have any other doodads on the RS?

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde

Wasabi the J posted:

Do ECU flashes really do stuff?

Short answer: yes

Slightly longer answer: yes but it depends heavily on what type of engine (naturally aspirated, turbocharged, turbodiesel) how much you'll actually notice a difference. Generally turbocharged and diesels respond most noticeably to flashes, because they tend to be tuned fairly conservatively from the factory for emissions/economy/durability reasons.

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

Interestingly the guy from ford when mighty car mods was interviewing him said that they've pushed the RS motor about as far as you can from factory while retaining reliability. Wonder really how much more you can get out of them before they start to loose reliability?

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


^ doesn't the intercooler have a weird blanking plate on a portion of it? What's that about? Most turbo cars I've seen don't have one.

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Aug 31, 2017

Huge_Midget
Jun 6, 2002

I don't like the look of it...

Ferremit posted:

Interestingly the guy from ford when mighty car mods was interviewing him said that they've pushed the RS motor about as far as you can from factory while retaining reliability. Wonder really how much more you can get out of them before they start to loose reliability?

Olympic Mathlete posted:

^ isn't the intercooler on those able to take more power hence the weird blanking plate on a portion of it?

Yeah you can squeeze about another 45 hp and 55 lb/ft of torque out of them on stock parts on 93 octane safely. If you are confident in your ability to math and blend fuels, you can get 70 hp and 60 lb/ft on e30 safely. And yes, removing the intercooler blanking plate was literally the first thing I did to my car when I drove it home from the dealership. Unless you live somewhere that regularly sees 90% humidity it's not necessary and is free cooling capacity for literally ripping off a rubber sticker.

Garage2Roadtrip
Oct 27, 2016

Terrible Robot posted:

Short answer: yes

Slightly longer answer: yes but it depends heavily on what type of engine (naturally aspirated, turbocharged, turbodiesel) how much you'll actually notice a difference. Generally turbocharged and diesels respond most noticeably to flashes, because they tend to be tuned fairly conservatively from the factory for emissions/economy/durability reasons.

Yeah good explanation. I tried years ago to do a "tune" on a 4.7l mopar and a 5.3l gm, and there were minimal gains. Fast forward to EFILive on my Duramax, and with only a DPF delete and tune, I gained 40-180hp (selectable) with ~ 80-360+ tq. Basically I had to upgrade my transmission to handle the power a tune brought to the table.

stevobob
Nov 16, 2008

Alchemy - the study of how to turn LS1's into a 20B. :science:


crutt posted:

5.3, 212/218 VVT cam, new oil pump, timing chain, timing chain dampener, new lifters, pushrods, valley cover, first time pulling the heads off any vehicle. LSA supercharger off either a cts-v or zl1, zl1 lid, bosch intercooler pump, cxracing heat exchanger, ls3 injectors. Should go pretty good. Waiting on a tune currently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iguSlpHdWaA





:)

Very cool, I love your truck. Looking forward to hearing more about it once you get a tune and test it out.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself





The environment weeps.

Garage2Roadtrip
Oct 27, 2016

Larrymer posted:

The environment weeps.

loving lol.

In order for the DPF to work correctly, the LMM Duramax uses a post injection to shoot as much as 1.5 extra gallons of diesel into the exhaust to initiate the regen cycle (also washing one or more cylinder's exhaust valves with diesel causing reported under-lubrication problems). Observed mpg averages were in the low 11-12 range when the truck was stock. I made the switch around 70k miles and the DPF was at the point of needing replaced from over-sooting anyways. The tune I ended up going with must have some excellent air/fuel maps because I don't soot out the tail pipe at all, while noticing a significant increase in performance (especially while towing). My average fuel consumption is closer to 18-19mpg now.

I'll take the decreased consumption as a benefit to the environment. This is the last truck I'll need/own, and I'd like it to make it to 300-400k miles without needing a rebuild when the stopgap DPF/regen poo poo fucks up the engine.

violentlycitrus
Aug 3, 2004

Garage2Roadtrip posted:

loving lol.

In order for the DPF to work correctly, the LMM Duramax uses a post injection to shoot as much as 1.5 extra gallons of diesel into the exhaust to initiate the regen cycle (also washing one or more cylinder's exhaust valves with diesel causing reported under-lubrication problems). Observed mpg averages were in the low 11-12 range when the truck was stock. I made the switch around 70k miles and the DPF was at the point of needing replaced from over-sooting anyways. The tune I ended up going with must have some excellent air/fuel maps because I don't soot out the tail pipe at all, while noticing a significant increase in performance (especially while towing). My average fuel consumption is closer to 18-19mpg now.

I'll take the decreased consumption as a benefit to the environment. This is the last truck I'll need/own, and I'd like it to make it to 300-400k miles without needing a rebuild when the stopgap DPF/regen poo poo fucks up the engine.

I think this is like the most sane response to the DPF delete thing i have ever heard. Everyone else I have talked to about it acts like the people in the hey miss do you smoke video on youtube. Are you worried about EPA stuff at all? When i was getting my CDL in texas our instructor used to tell us a story about a CDL guy he knew who got stopped in his modded diesel dodge and that the truck got impounded and the guy had to pay a ton to have EPA guys turn the the truck back to stock. I always thought he was full of poo poo tho.

Garage2Roadtrip
Oct 27, 2016

violentlycitrus posted:

I think this is like the most sane response to the DPF delete thing i have ever heard. Everyone else I have talked to about it acts like the people in the hey miss do you smoke video on youtube. Are you worried about EPA stuff at all? When i was getting my CDL in texas our instructor used to tell us a story about a CDL guy he knew who got stopped in his modded diesel dodge and that the truck got impounded and the guy had to pay a ton to have EPA guys turn the the truck back to stock. I always thought he was full of poo poo tho.

It's been a legend/myth I've heard too. Long story short, where I live/lived I am not worried about it, as NC is emissions sniff/look exempt for diesel. If they really want to go after someone, they can go after the 6bt guys running 8" stacks with smoke tunes. My truck looks stock, sounds stock, and doesn't blow any soot. The only way you'd know there was anything different would be to look underneath and see the disco'ed connectors from the fore/aft pressure sensors and the EGT probe (and the 65 pound can of poo poo missing).

Before moving from AK to NC, we were thinking about taking over my parent's estate in Vermont, and that's the only reason I hadn't done the tune sooner. DMV enforcement patrols are allegedly trained on what trucks do/don't have emissions equip. and supposedly can levy the EPA $10k fine on you for not having the stuff, plus you won't pass inspection. I prefer to live in a free state, though.

violentlycitrus
Aug 3, 2004

Yeah, thanks for the info. Im so torn about rolling coal, because some terrible, primitive part of me thinks it is dope as gently caress, but it is so incredibly obnoxious. I much prefer the youtube diesel with train air horn videos.

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Garage2Roadtrip
Oct 27, 2016

violentlycitrus posted:

Yeah, thanks for the info. Im so torn about rolling coal, because some terrible, primitive part of me thinks it is dope as gently caress, but it is so incredibly obnoxious. I much prefer the youtube diesel with train air horn videos.

I don't like the rolling coal thing -except- in truck/tractor pull situations. I am just in awe at the logistics of a diesel engine's combustion characteristics, and when those things are at full whistle, how much air/fuel is passing through them. I also hate loud noises too (mild military-related issues and hearing impairments), so the train horns really catch me off guard. Last time I went to SEMA was in 2014 and it must have been the year of the lifted bro'd-out dually. Dual 12" stacks and quad Kleinn horns were the cost of entry, apparently. They look cool, but I prefer to tow with my truck and make questionable automotive decisions with my project cars!

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