Propagandist posted:

buns over IP

Quavers posted:

I loved reading John Carmack's .plan updates back in the days of Quake development. They were the poo poo

Gravity_Storm posted:

One of the most telling bits was when Sandi brought Crobber a drink... Christ if she feels sorry for him it must have been going very badly.

TheAgent posted:

I also want to mention that any single company that has worked with CIG for any length of time has ended up bailing and talking mad amounts of poo poo about every single interaction they had while working on star citizen

Propagandist posted:

I doubt she was bringing it because she felt sorry for him. It was probably a pre-planned celebratory drink. Like haha watch me dangle this carrot for these whales, now bring me something fruity and expensive at the very end.

e: Alternatively, she wanted to show off those god awful hideous shoes one more time.

Foo Diddley posted:

I think she wanted to show off that awesome outfit again. That thing ruled

I ordered three of them on Amazon right after the presentation

The Titanic posted:

CIG just needs to do more business with Chinese developers then. Goons in general don't speak Chinese or mandarin so the hilarious leaks will be reduced to bad Google translations.

Scruffpuff posted:

I think the biggest surprise of all is that there isn't actually a 3.0 build. What they have is 2.6.3, and a bunch of technical experiments that have neither been tested with the main branch, nor tested alongside each other. The hypothesis is that once all these completely separately developed and tested pieces have reached a certain level of "polish" (or CIG reaches a certain level of desperation) then they'll all get merged with the main branch and bingo, 3.0.

I have it on good authority that's exactly how game development works.

Gravity_Storm posted:

One of the most telling bits was when Sandi brought Crobber a drink... Christ if she feels sorry for him it must have been going very badly.

The Titanic posted:

CIG just needs to do more business with Chinese developers then. Goons in general don't speak Chinese or mandarin so the hilarious leaks will be reduced to bad Google translations.

Rabelais D posted:

The cake that reads "Robert need more gold" should get some more love, as the Chinese either side is a qiyan (seven syllable per line) rhyming couplet:

人间自有真情在，能骗一快是一块

which goes something like this:

"As true devotion exists in the world of man, [Chris Roberts] will scam every dollar that he can."

Of course, "Robert need more gold" is a more effective and accurate translation in a lot of ways.

XK posted:

The part they kept explicitly avoiding was having a passenger while trying to get one vehicle onto another. Having a passenger while the vehicle did its own thing seemed okay. Why else always exit the Ursa before loading, or take a different elevator while unloading. Nobody in real game play would take a different elevator while unloading, then get picked up outside. Both players would rush into the rover and ride it down. They did that for a reason, because they had to.

And that guy got out before the ramp kill for absolutely zero reason. He literally asked to get out, then ran alongside until the ramp kill. Then he jumped the debris to enter the ship. Why did he exit the rover?

The only explanation is there is something badly broken with vehicle to vehicle interactions when passengers are involved.

milk milk lemonade posted:

The communities are empty husks and there is nothing but smoldering anger in their official forums. Star Citizen is dead and the tracker is a complete lie. There's no one left buying this poo poo.

Gravity_Storm posted:

One of the most telling bits was when Sandi brought Crobber a drink... Christ if she feels sorry for him it must have been going very badly.

Lazrin posted:

there are some nutjobs out there like him for sure.

im past all of the rage stuff i came here with... i've come to accept and potentially even respect your opinion on all this... you do cross some lines imo, but when you keep the personal and the project separated then there's no reason to shout you down

Drunk Theory posted:

Someone offscreen asked him and he ordered that vodka and soda a few minutes before. Which was really memorable for me, because I was drinking on discord while watching and was rather incredulous he would drink during a live presentation.

In the end, I figured he gave as much of a poo poo about that presentation as I did.

Toops posted:

This is good, I bet it feels better to take that balanced approach, and I'm glad we have people with differing opinions around here.

I crank up the vitriol just for fun among people of like mind, but I will always ultimately be of the opinion that whatever makes you happy, do that. There are many SC fans who enjoy being passionate about the potential of this game, and it's not my or anyone's place to disparage that. As an astute goon pointed out, many of these people are the "dungeon master" type, who get the most joy from planning out the D&D session, designing the world, creating encounters, writing the lore, and planning the journey. The game itself is kind of immaterial.

Toops posted:

Pro tip: The player IS the vehicle. Throw a second player in there, and now you actually have to reconcile this whole "physics simulation inside a physics simulation" problem which it appears they haven't done.

xXAdmiralBekHarXx posted:

Have YOU put your required 40 hours into LOD this week? If not, report for deskeletonization

XK posted:

My assumption runs along these lines. 6 years in and they can't have a player in a physics grid while that physics grid moves inside another physics grid. This is a fairly fundamental part of their game.

I was thinking this works in 2.6, but now I've realized, in the current release, I'm not sure there is any vehicle you can have a passenger on and reasonably fit in another vehicle. Is there any vehicle combination in the current release you can do that with?

XK posted:

There are some things all of us missed in the demo.



Two Gamescom demo observations:



1: When they grabbed the box from the wreck, and made their way back to the rover, they very explicitly never showed the box being taken onto the rover. We've seen this problem before with them not being able to put the cargo boxes onto vehicles. So, when the rover got ramp killed, we all thought the demo got jammed because the box got blown with the vehicle. I'd say the game never gave a poo poo about that box, the box was never on the vehicle, and no box was destroyed. I propose that the thing that got blown was the character driving the Ursa was required for the follow on space fight. "noooooooOOOoooooo"



2: Both playthroughs, when they lifted the Ursa into the ship, they explicitly acted out having the passenger stand outside and help to carefully align the Ursa on the elevator platform. Then, the passenger took a separate elevator into the ship. The obvious janky reason, is, somebody had to guide the rover perfectly into place on the barely big enough elevator platform, because the driver couldn't position it himself, and the game couldn't handle a misaligned vehicle on the elevator.

This was a total misdirection.

When they unloaded the Ursa onto the destination, one player got in, and rode it down the elevator. The other player took the separate elevator down to the surface, then got in the rover after it was unloaded. Why didn't they both get into the Ursa before it was lowered? Nothing needed an outside eye for lining up, just drive off after being lowered.

Almost everybody missed this, their demo couldn't raise or lower the Ursa on a ship elevator with a passenger in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCtdyNFwQWo&t=2770s

Ursa loads/unloads:
46:10
1:15:35
1:25:30 (ignore the sync issue with the floating Ursa in the cargo bay )



Bonus: 1:40:50
The passenger gets out of the Ursa, for no apparent reason, whatsoever, before the attempt to drive onto the ship where the ramp kill happens. It's almost like vehicle onto vehicle interactions don't work with passengers.

Super Bonus: 1:41:45
crobbler: "First working capital ship"

Propagandist posted:

buns over IP

ewe2 posted:

MilesK posted:

I hope by citizencon they can add hand-tracking. How the gently caress am I supposed to communicate properly without flailing my hands around?!

teh_Broseph posted:

Now, imagine 4 commandos on the edge of a ramp..