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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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Spoeank posted:And yet he's on the 2k18 Kings all franchise team because this franchise, much like Nik, rocks wait is he really? lol
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chunkles posted:wait is he really? lol 
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Aug 30, 2017 05:58
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Spacebump posted:Noel being on the roster all season instead of just at the end (+no Bogut) should account for the Mavs winning at minimum 2 more wins than last season. Having a point guard other than Devin Harris play more than 40 games will also help. Yogi/DSJ/Barea/Harris will presumably be a much more stable/healthy pg rotation than last year. People that didn't watch the Mavs forget how dire their point guard situation was before they signed Yogi. Roster continuity should also account for a few more wins than last season. DSJ may be starting but Carlisle would bench anyone in crunch time if it means winning a game. It really wouldn't shock me if their crunch time 5 is Yogi/Matthews/Barnes/Dirk/Noel. That's a good point and the west 4-10 or what have you isn't as strong as it used to be. There has to be a year when Dirk stops making their offense work, but it hasn't happened yet. Nerlens Noel might not be good but he's better than zero. Harrison Barnes ISOs are ugly but they produce points. You could talk me into it R.D. Mangles posted:The Bulls have, by my count, like 3 NBA players on the entire roster, and one of them is old, broken, and has literally no incentive to do anything other than save his knees for the Cavs. I think the Sixers won 22 and 23 games with 1 NBA player give or take. It's just hard to drop below that threshold. The league is reducing free games on back to backs and 4 in 5s that help bad teams grind their way up, but it's just hard to be that bad. Not good players but functional players 1. Wade 2. Jrue Holiday's brother 3. Zach Lavine 4. Brook Lopez 5. Christiano Felicio 5.5 Paul Zipser Those are 3.5 NBA starters (not good starters) and a couple role players. I think Markannen will be good, Kris Dunn is guaranteed to be better than last year, then they have some human men who might be rotation players. It's going to be bad, but it's really hard to only win 22 games. It's difficult. They're far better than Brooklyn -Lin who won 20 games last year. I'm sorry to say it but I think it's going to be a tough battle with Atlanta or a bad team with injuries for the number 1 pick. It looks like Atlanta----------Nets--Chicago---Suns-----
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Aug 30, 2017 06:04
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Dejan Bimble posted:That's a good point and the west 4-10 or what have you isn't as strong as it used to be. There has to be a year when Dirk stops making their offense work, but it hasn't happened yet. Nerlens Noel might not be good but he's better than zero. Harrison Barnes ISOs are ugly but they produce points. You could talk me into it I'd bet a dollar that Wade won't be on the Bulls this season.
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Aug 30, 2017 06:14
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I think Walton's dead in the water. The front office got rid of every last shooter the team had, and don't really have a way to use Brook Lopez without radically changing the offense, and are too young to play defense. The team will run a lot, but the narrative about how "they're running but not scoring" is gonna pop up sometime early in December, and the coach that this front office didn't hire seems like a good fall guy. I expect Kurt Rambis to be head coach by January with the team being shadow coached by Byron Scott who will be brought on as a consultant. I don't think the Lakers break 20, much less get to 30.
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Aug 30, 2017 06:20
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Kings don't have many great players in their history but Artest probably should have been on their over Rudy
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Aug 30, 2017 06:27
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I feel like there might be a real chance John Collins is the best player on the Hawks. Yes I know he's a rookie.
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Aug 30, 2017 06:54
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Rick posted:I think Walton's dead in the water. The front office got rid of every last shooter the team had, and don't really have a way to use Brook Lopez without radically changing the offense, and are too young to play defense. The team will run a lot, but the narrative about how "they're running but not scoring" is gonna pop up sometime early in December, and the coach that this front office didn't hire seems like a good fall guy. I think they would have a lot of trouble firing even if the team is worse next year, I think he is probably as popular, if not more than Magic I cant see him not getting to year 3 unless he punches a fan or something crazy
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Aug 30, 2017 07:41
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Holy poo poo I just looked at Atlantas roster 
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Aug 30, 2017 07:49
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Dejan Bimble posted:Cha 42.5 -- This is dificil, I would say hard over if MKG was hurt again, he really fucks up the flow of their offense. But Batum won't be hurt. so they should be an over barring anything catastrophic 42.5 sounds about right to me. I get that about MKG, since they won 48 games basically without him in '15-'16, but pretty much every indication is that his defense is worth it -- they've been significantly better with him on the floor the last four years. I think they have a decent chance at a top-10, maybe top-five, defense with him and Dwight even if the offense has rough patches. I don't think he's irreplaceable by any stretch, but that great '15-'16 without MKG was flukey in a lot of ways. Even with contract-year Batum and Lin off the bench they were hovering around .500 until they traded for Courtney Lee. He was a perfect fit with the starters, and Lin + a still sort-of functional Al Jefferson is the best second unit they've had with this core. This year's starters are probably going to be really good together -- Dwight might muck up some of the offensive flow since he's turnover-prone and not the passer Zeller is, but having a guy teams are afraid to drive on will help a lot. (One of Charlotte's best lineups last year was Kemba/Batum/MKG/Marvin/Hibbert.) Like pretty much every team under Clifford they'll probably go as far as their bench takes them. Zeller will help but they basically need some health luck, Monk to have a good-to-great rookie season + some growth from Kaminsky. Ideally MCW is glued to the bench after the few months, too
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Aug 30, 2017 08:37
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The Glumslinger posted:I think they would have a lot of trouble firing even if the team is worse next year, I think he is probably as popular, if not more than Magic Let's see what happens when talk radio starts doing their poo poo in six weeks.
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Aug 30, 2017 08:58
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Dejan Bimble posted:
I totally missed that one the first time. Yeah, they'll be much better than that.
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Aug 30, 2017 10:01
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That win total is based on their two best players who are injury prone to last 70 games.
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Aug 30, 2017 12:14
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Tae posted:That win total is based on their two best players who are injury prone to last 70 games. Yeah, I would probably take the over if I had to, but I'd stay away from that Clippers team. I dunno if Gallo is better than DJ, but I can see injuries derailing that team pretty hard. If everyone is reasonably healtyh they are probably in that 48-50 range, so I don't think they have a ton of wiggle room. I think people are underestimating the potential of the Clippers to be a big hot mess.
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Aug 30, 2017 13:45
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Rick posted:I think Walton's dead in the water. The front office got rid of every last shooter the team had, and don't really have a way to use Brook Lopez without radically changing the offense, and are too young to play defense. The team will run a lot, but the narrative about how "they're running but not scoring" is gonna pop up sometime early in December, and the coach that this front office didn't hire seems like a good fall guy. Brook can shoot 3s now at a decent volume so maybe that will help make it work
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Aug 30, 2017 13:52
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https://twitter.com/SLAMonline/status/902871025368547333
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Aug 30, 2017 14:00
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Dejan Bimble posted:Not good players but functional players I think LaVine is supposed to be out most of the year?
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Aug 30, 2017 15:31
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I like this quote on advanced metrics from Bill James
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Aug 30, 2017 15:32
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Kibner posted:I think LaVine is supposed to be out most of the year? He was hurt in February, and usually most players are back on the court 12 months after an ACL tear. He'll probably play 40-50 games this year, but most of those will be working back to where he was. Edit: For what it's worth, LaVine is saying he'll be ready for the start of the season, but I expect probably December/January is more likely. Lockback fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 15:48
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https://www.sbnation.com/2017/8/30/16225810/kyrie-irving-trade-bucks-cavs-celtics-malcolm-brogdon-khris-middleton-isaiah-thomas-injury this seems too good to be true but I'd love to see kyrie and giannis make everyone fear the deer again
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Aug 30, 2017 15:58
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morestuff posted:From the Westgate casino: lol Nets are gonna be a better team than the Knicks so incredibly soon and then forever
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Aug 30, 2017 16:05
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The Bucks were so good when Middleton was back last year why would they ever trade him
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Aug 30, 2017 16:12
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I would not have been upset to get middleton/broggy it would be funny to see Kyrie go from Cleveland to the Cleveland of Wisconsin Brolander fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 16:19
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Boston under is probably the most sure ive been about and O/U in a long time
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Aug 30, 2017 16:23
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Mr. Despair posted:https://www.sbnation.com/2017/8/30/16225810/kyrie-irving-trade-bucks-cavs-celtics-malcolm-brogdon-khris-middleton-isaiah-thomas-injury I am 100% cool with the deal falling through if there is fence mending going on behind the scenes such that everyone is cool with the situation come tip off.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:28
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I almost want to figure out how to gamble to put money on Bos under
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Aug 30, 2017 16:28
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Spacebump posted:Mavs are going over, easy money. With how many times you posted this poo poo they drat well better or im finding you
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Aug 30, 2017 16:42
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Basing your optimism on Nerlens Noel boy i don't know .
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Aug 30, 2017 16:46
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GobiasIndustries posted:Holy poo poo I just looked at Atlantas roster This team got hollowed out in such a weird way. Usually when a team loses all its good players there's a bunch of crappy young guys left behind, but Atlanta is like entirely a roster of a team's 6th-10th best players A team with Dennis Schroeder as its best player should be doomed to fail spectacularly, but I could almost see them gritting together a season that places them outside of the bottom five
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Aug 30, 2017 17:13
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Even if Schröder somehow manages to play the entire regular season like he did in the playoffs, it won't be enough. They're a mess.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:23
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The weirdest thing about Atlanta's fall is that we all saw it coming and there really wasn't much they could've done differently. Even if they would've blown it up they wouldn't have got much in return.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:31
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https://twitter.com/DickieV/status/902921356219731969 I wonder if his sources are the same ones as Broussard's.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:31
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Dick Vitale tweets like if Donald Trump had a normal human heart and feelings.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:35
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So Magic Johnson then
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Aug 30, 2017 17:40
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Noel is good I think the Mavs could definitely hit the over if only by virtue of not starting the year 4-17 or whatever the gently caress again. It's really dependent on a bunch of players developing and old Dirk not being too old to remain the key component that keeps the offense that made JJ Barea's career humming. Does Barnes continue to grow into the lead role or does he plateau, what do we get out of DSJ out the gate, can Dorian Finney-Smith beat the odds and hit a 3 pointer once in a while, these are the question that will be answered.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:44
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Rick posted:I think Walton's dead in the water. The front office got rid of every last shooter the team had, and don't really have a way to use Brook Lopez without radically changing the offense, and are too young to play defense. The team will run a lot, but the narrative about how "they're running but not scoring" is gonna pop up sometime early in December, and the coach that this front office didn't hire seems like a good fall guy. I'm gonna have to agree with Rick. Firing Walton during a rebuild only to get probably worse coach will only delay things and gently caress up the timeline. So of course this seems like a definite Magic move.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:57
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Space Camp fuckup posted:So Magic Johnson then True, though he does not have a normal human immune system
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Aug 30, 2017 18:00
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pubic works project posted:https://twitter.com/DickieV/status/902921356219731969 IT has to report today and the Cavs need to make a decision one way or another by tomorrow 10am EDT, so its pretty likely today is the day stuff happens.
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Aug 30, 2017 18:14
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Lockback posted:IT has to report today and the Cavs need to make a decision one way or another by tomorrow 10am EDT, so its pretty likely today is the day stuff happens. Not if they decide to extend the deadline, and it's going to kill me.
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Aug 30, 2017 18:23
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zoux posted:I like this quote on advanced metrics from Bill James Wish I was smart enouf to understand what that says
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