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Well, devil's advocate here: A pro-road racer isn't on the set of Deadpool 2 to do pro-road racing, she's on the set to do stunts. In typical big budget fashion, this is also a film with nine producers, including Stan Lee (94). Whatever the case, the stunt coordinator will likely take the most heat.
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achillesforever6 posted:https://twitter.com/ashleylynch/status/902306249575763970 What the gently caress. 
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Aug 29, 2017 05:05
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Are we sure it has to do with the stunt person death? What about that tweet had to do with it?
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Aug 29, 2017 05:14
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CelticPredator posted:Are we sure it has to do with the stunt person death? What about that tweet had to do with it? According to the thread Joi couldn't do the stunt successfully during the practice runs, and the stunt coordinator didn't want Joi to do it for that reason, which is that person's job and decision to make. But the producers were adamant about going through with it because they didn't want to spend the money to either find/train a stuntwoman that could do it and be a good physical match instead of a professional racer or to use CG to replace a helmet with the person's head and face (which is what they're rolling with for the stunt now for obvious reasons). Literally pulled a Vic Morrow.
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Aug 29, 2017 05:16
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There's a whole thread below it that details what happened. It's pretty messed up stuff.
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Aug 29, 2017 05:16
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Ah. That's horrific. Sounds like something Fox would do back in 2004. I thought they changed but I guess not! Jesus.
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Aug 29, 2017 05:19
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This poo poo is rampant. If you ever hear of someone dying on set the safe bet is to assume they died because someone wanted to save money.
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Aug 29, 2017 05:53
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Neo Rasa posted:According to the thread Joi couldn't do the stunt successfully during the practice runs, and the stunt coordinator didn't want Joi to do it for that reason, which is that person's job and decision to make. But the producers were adamant about going through with it because they didn't want to spend the money to either find/train a stuntwoman that could do it and be a good physical match instead of a professional racer or to use CG to replace a helmet with the person's head and face (which is what they're rolling with for the stunt now for obvious reasons). Literally pulled a Vic Morrow. This is disgusting. Plan B has now become Plan A, but someone had to lose their life to demonstrate why Plan A was a bad plan. This is an excusable shitshow fully on the producers' heads. Glad it sounds like the stunt coordinators did the right thing and it won't get dumped on their lap, cause honestly the producers should be either criminally or at least civilly held responsible.
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Aug 29, 2017 06:25
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This is the best article available on what actually happened: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/deadpool-2-set-death-could-have-been-prevented-1031814
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Aug 29, 2017 07:30
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dont even fink about it posted:This is the best article available on what actually happened: Why did I even bother reading the comments? I'm going to be in a bad mood the whole morning.
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Aug 29, 2017 07:52
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Literally nothing will come of this. None of the producers will face any backlash once it's blown over in a week.
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Aug 29, 2017 08:41
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Is this pretty much all the producers' fault, or is director Leitch implicated as well?
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Aug 29, 2017 09:58
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The film thoroughly criticizes him, if it didn't (and he didn't), he wouldn't be Christ-like. That's always what's missing in that analysis - if that were the case, Chris Kyle would be a Jesus figure. I disagree. Characters criticise him based on misunderstandings, and the film shows that to be misunderstandings, or something he is intensely aware of himself.
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Aug 29, 2017 10:16
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Pirate Jet posted:Is this pretty much all the producers' fault, or is director Leitch implicated as well? I'm not defending anyone, but normally they shoot the stunts with a different crew. So it's possible he not have known all the behind the scenes things going own with the stunt coordinators. Same with Reynolds. He's a producer too, however. It's hard to say right now.
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Aug 29, 2017 11:28
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Is there any means of independent investigation when an incident like this happens? I'm thinking is there something equivalent to what I'm used to in my maritime career, where any incidents of a certain severity (in Australia) get escalated to independent investigation by an established body to assess points of failure in management systems as well as individual decision making.
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Aug 29, 2017 12:32
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Snowman_McK posted:I disagree. Characters criticise him based on misunderstandings, and the film shows that to be misunderstandings, or something he is intensely aware of himself. "Should this creature even exist?" is definitely not a misunderstanding.
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Aug 29, 2017 16:39
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:"Should this creature even exist?" is definitely not a misunderstanding. It kind of is, because the answer is 'It does.' Of course, literally the moment before Superman comes up in front of government officials to open dialogue in front of the world, it is sabotaged brutally by those who have already made up their mind about him.
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Aug 29, 2017 16:48
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Inescapable Duck posted:It kind of is, because the answer is 'It does.' And then, at the end of the movie, it doesn't (at least for now).
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Aug 29, 2017 16:55
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Inescapable Duck posted:It kind of is, because the answer is 'It does.' Sure but misapprehension is not misunderstanding, the former stakes out a position, the latter can be construed as a sad mistake.
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Aug 29, 2017 17:10
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Pirate Jet posted:Is this pretty much all the producers' fault, or is director Leitch implicated as well? If you believe the leakstorm, it is the producers' fault and the stuntpeople had nothing to do with it. It's pretty easy to see the through line of the people most vulnerable to litigation and most closely involved complaining the loudest. I'm not saying don't believe early reports, just to take a critical eye to the whole thing.
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Aug 29, 2017 17:40
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The stuntpeople will always fold because any stuntperson who doesn't work with the money will be blackballed out.
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Aug 29, 2017 17:43
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Brother Entropy posted:the difference there is that stardust the super wizard doesn't have multiple scenes afterwards questioning whether that righteous violence was laudable and if it didn't just make things worse overall (at least i'm assuming it doesn't, given its reputation) Stardust's villains are exceptional in the number of people they kill, and he does little or nothing to stop them before they kill lots of people, or help fix things afterwards.
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Aug 29, 2017 20:42
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Stardust isn't really an indictment of anything, as originally written. Fletcher Hanks genuinely thought that that was what a superhero should look like, because Fletcher Hanks was batshit out of his loving gourd.
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Aug 30, 2017 00:06
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Stardust is outsider art.
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Aug 30, 2017 00:15
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Stardust isn't really an indictment of anything, as originally written. Fletcher Hanks genuinely thought that that was what a superhero should look like, because Fletcher Hanks was batshit out of his loving gourd. Stardust is actually not really that different than say, The Spectre, which was grim and gruesome as all get out in the meting of justice for what some might say are proportionally petty crimes.
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Aug 30, 2017 00:21
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Stardust isn't really an indictment of anything, as originally written. Fletcher Hanks genuinely thought that that was what a superhero should look like, because Fletcher Hanks was batshit out of his loving gourd. BravestOfTheLamps posted:Stardust is outsider art.
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Aug 30, 2017 00:36
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It's still great.
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Aug 30, 2017 00:41
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Loosely related to the thread. Walt Simonson talks about Jack Kirby and a little bit about Thor: Ragnarok from the AV Club: http://io9.gizmodo.com/iconic-thor-creator-walt-simonson-talks-about-jack-kirb-1798514257 Kirby was the loving poo poo. It's a shame as a 12 year old I didn't appreciate what he was doing and was more drawn towards Adams and Perez - the hyper realistic style - than the dynamic that Jack had mastered. Just figured I'd shove this on here is all.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:33
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I feel like figuring out that Kirby kicks rear end when you're like 25 is a very common story with comics fans.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:35
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As a non comic reader, my general impression of Reed Richards from cultural osmosis is that he's at best a narcissistic tosspot, and at worst a flatout Supervillian. And the only reason everyone puts up with him is that when he says he's the smartest man on the planet and they all need him...he's pretty much right. They probably work best in film like the Hulk. Not the stars of the show, but supporting acts. I really think it's only a matter of time though before Marvel get the rights and introduce them in a retroactive 60's period piece (like Captain Marvel in the 90's)
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Aug 30, 2017 18:22
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Gosling should have been Dr. Strange, Cumberbatch should have been Reed Richards.
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Aug 30, 2017 18:24
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Surprised this wasn't posted yet, but first look at Evangeline Lily as The Wasp
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Aug 30, 2017 19:33
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That's a big penis.
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Aug 30, 2017 19:38
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CityMidnightJunky posted:As a non comic reader, my general impression of Reed Richards from cultural osmosis is that he's at best a narcissistic tosspot, and at worst a flatout Supervillian. And the only reason everyone puts up with him is that when he says he's the smartest man on the planet and they all need him...he's pretty much right.
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Aug 30, 2017 19:47
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Yeah the insect compound eye boob plates is an odd look
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Aug 30, 2017 19:47
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Halloween Jack posted:One of the things I most enjoyed about the Top 100 What If Countdown was the running theme that Reed Richards' sanity is hanging by a thread and without Sue, he'll nuke reality. That send like a bit of a problem since he's immortal and she isn't
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Aug 30, 2017 19:56
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Scyantific posted:Surprised this wasn't posted yet, but first look at Evangeline Lily as The Wasp Okay look No matter what, that's lovely Mass Effect looking armor that's boring as hell But what happened to the yellow from the first movie? Like, seriously, what actually happened? It had yellow on it. It did. I remember it. You can find pictures of it. Why did they make it even more boring Also seriously loving stop it with the goddamn boob armor already there is no reason for that. It just looks stupid. Christ
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Aug 30, 2017 19:57
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah the insect compound eye boob plates is an odd look All superhero costumes look loving stupid in a set photo, and all you really need to do is light and frame your subject in an atmospheric way where the suit becomes emblematic of a certain part of a character rather than being the predominate focus of literally every shot they're in. But, then again, you know, Marvel.
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Aug 30, 2017 19:58
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K. Waste posted:All superhero costumes look loving stupid in a set photo, and all you really need to do is light and frame your subject in an atmospheric way where the suit becomes emblematic of a certain part of a character rather than being the predominate focus of literally every shot they're in. That doesn't look like a set photo. It looks like an official production still. Sure, there will still be some after effects done to it, and plenty of it. But that sure looks like a shot from the movie.
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thrawn527 posted:That doesn't look like a set photo. It looks like an official production still. I'll admit it could be shot from the movie, but I would not say it looks specifically like a shot from the movie (which none of us has seen). It looks like a shot, taken on a set, of a performer in costume. It could be either, but I lean on set photo because most promotional images released before a trailer is even out would not be actual raw footage from the production. Nobody promotes a film that way except college students. But, like I admitted, you could be right, but only because it is Marvel, the guys who replaced Edgar Wright with loving Peyton Reed.
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