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BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Duzzy Funlop posted:

Not sure how whining and victim-roling hasn't gotten old yet...wait, no, it's because of his position.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/902885560552960000

I think they'll have to take away his phone at some point.

By force, if necessary.

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shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


They should make a fake Twitter app for him

timma85
Feb 13, 2006
Is MAGA a verb now? I have a feeling dictionaries are going to add MAGA as a new word.

Come on guys! I just want to MAGA a little! Let me show you how cool MAGA can be!

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

timma85 posted:

Is MAGA a verb now? I have a feeling dictionaries are going to add MAGA as a new word.

Come on guys! I just want to MAGA a little! Let me show you how cool MAGA can be!

Stop trying to make Fetch a thing.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
I JUST WANT TO MAGA WHY WON'T YOU LET ME MAGA!?!?!?

Poppyseed Poundcake
Feb 23, 2007

Casimir Radon posted:

CSPAM is starting to turn into LF, geez.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ZSDCvUwN8

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

tastefully arranged labia posted:

Stop trying to make Fetch a thing.

Pierce, stop trying to make "streets ahead" a thing

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:

Pierce, stop trying to make "streets ahead" a thing

Trying?! Coined and minted!

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

The Iron Rose posted:

jesus you really weren't kidding

always found it funny that that lot whines more about their erstwhile allies - liberals - far more than they whine about (or vote against) the people actively opposed to everything they hold dear.

probably because their supposed allies - liberals - are little more than GOP collaborators

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.

KildarX posted:

gently caress there are people I know that think antifa is actually a no poo poo organized gang that started in America really recently.

I saw going around in conservative social media circles a copy of a totally authentic antifa guide found discarded in the Charlottesville aftermath. It talked about how antifa was an lqtqbgxyz organization dedicated to standing up to cis white males and how everything is racist. You could tell it was real because it was crumpled up, had a coffee mug stain, and was written in typewriter font- which is totally a thing snowflake millenials would do.

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

suboptimal posted:

It's pretty crazy that prosecutors can't get a conviction of Bundy supporters pictured pointing rifles at federal agents, yet black bloc protesters in DC are facing like 70 years in prison following mass arrests on Inauguration Day. Doubt they'll actually get sentences that high, but come on. There's no moral equivalence between anarchists engaged in property destruction or low level fistfights with white supremacists and the ascendant alt-right and/or far right Neo-Nazis.

Oh, you mean that cops and the American justice system skew hard right, and will defend and downplay racists/white supremacists? It's almost like a lot of them sympathize or something.


If only there were a convenient chant for how poo poo cops are...

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Professor Bling posted:

Oh, you mean that cops and the American justice system skew hard right, and will defend and downplay racists/white supremacists? It's almost like a lot of them sympathize or something.


If only there were a convenient chant for how poo poo cops are...

"Why does antifa care if law enforcement officers were born out of wedlock?"
-nytimes next Sunday

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Casimir Radon posted:

CSPAM is starting to turn into LF, geez.

LF was never that drunk.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer

FastestGunAlive posted:

I saw going around in conservative social media circles a copy of a totally authentic antifa guide found discarded in the Charlottesville aftermath. It talked about how antifa was an lqtqbgxyz organization dedicated to standing up to cis white males and how everything is racist. You could tell it was real because it was crumpled up, had a coffee mug stain, and was written in typewriter font- which is totally a thing snowflake millenials would do.

HELVETICA OR DEATH

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

hobbesmaster posted:

"Why does antifa care if law enforcement officers were born out of wedlock?"
-nytimes next Sunday

"Antifa - anti-unity? Why do they care who cops hold hands with?" -cnn two hours later

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
........ Optics!

https://twitter.com/joejohnscnn/status/902971888732921856

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/902973245388935168

He also yelled about voting out Claire McCaskill, so another successful speech!

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Me thinks we should increase our taxes so we can fund FEMA.

It started this hurricane in the negative after all.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

The Iron Rose posted:

jesus you really weren't kidding

always found it funny that that lot whines more about their erstwhile allies - liberals - far more than they whine about (or vote against) the people actively opposed to everything they hold dear.



(Not being 100% serious, just like that image)

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Gamera has opinions about immigrants

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
Sooo, someone's got an 8k RED pointed at that building, right?

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Jokers Gamble posted:

Really? Because I fail to remember the gangs of violent leftists terrorizing folks before the Nazis showed up. Certainly there's always been a presence of anarchists who were willing to throw bricks through windows and poo poo but I think most of these people maybe just really don't like Nazis. I mean, they're kind of the worst. That's why we have decades worth of films and games where they are the antagonist, because it's okay to hate Nazis on account of the genocide and all. Just my opinion though.

mlmp08 posted:

And this is based on................what, exactly?
I grew up in coastal California, a state which, I think I can say without fear of contradiction, is not at risk of sliding into far right-wing government any time soon. Every protest above a certain size seemed without fail to attract a contingent of Black Bloc assholes who wanted to break windows and mix it up with the police. This was well before the alt right was even a thing. Back in the 90s, their stated agenda was anti-corporate, anti-WTO, etc. I'm glad that they have turned their attention on people who deserve it, but I have no doubt that, if the alt right didn't exist, they would find a different enemy for themselves.

I also don't trust randos with black balaclavas, or most other people for that matter, to make ethical decisions about which ideologies are worthy of violent repression and which aren't. After the violence surrounding Milo Yiannopoulos' aborted appearance in Berkeley, I had a conversation with a friend whose opinions I normally respect who explained that they were fine with the violence, because violence against Nazis was always justified. I countered that Milo might have a lot of bad opinions, but he wasn't a Nazi. They replied that Milo was normalizing negative speech about minorities, which aided and emboldened actual Nazis and that he was therefore no different. That's what I find most disturbing about full-throated embrace of antifa violence: that people seem to relish the prospect of violence not just against actual Nazis (of which there are maybe a few thousand in the United States) but against Lost Cause sympathizers, Sovereign Citizens, racists, homophobes, and anyone else who has opinions they disagree with, whether or not those people are inciting violence.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

A less panicked tweet of the explosion situation:

https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/902977709067915266

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Slim Pickens posted:

Sooo, someone's got an 8k RED pointed at that building, right?

god i hope so

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Dead Reckoning posted:

I grew up in coastal California, a state which, I think I can say without fear of contradiction, is not at risk of sliding into far right-wing government any time soon. Every protest above a certain size seemed without fail to attract a contingent of Black Bloc assholes who wanted to break windows and mix it up with the police. This was well before the alt right was even a thing. Back in the 90s, their stated agenda was anti-corporate, anti-WTO, etc. I'm glad that they have turned their attention on people who deserve it, but I have no doubt that, if the alt right didn't exist, they would find a different enemy for themselves.

I also don't trust randos with black balaclavas, or most other people for that matter, to make ethical decisions about which ideologies are worthy of violent repression and which aren't. After the violence surrounding Milo Yiannopoulos' aborted appearance in Berkeley, I had a conversation with a friend whose opinions I normally respect who explained that they were fine with the violence, because violence against Nazis was always justified. I countered that Milo might have a lot of bad opinions, but he wasn't a Nazi. They replied that Milo was normalizing negative speech about minorities, which aided and emboldened actual Nazis and that he was therefore no different. That's what I find most disturbing about full-throated embrace of antifa violence: that people seem to relish the prospect of violence not just against actual Nazis (of which there are maybe a few thousand in the United States) but against Lost Cause sympathizers, Sovereign Citizens, racists, homophobes, and anyone else who has opinions they disagree with, whether or not those people are inciting violence.

You mean a state with the population the size of canada has some bad apples who are poo poo stains no matter what they call themselves? Colour me surprised. And milo is a demagogue who deserves to be afraid to leave the house.

Also the bolded part isn't getting any sympathy from me. Most people upset at anti-fascists are so because they are afraid (or know) they will get hit from them for their lovely opinions. There are consequences to being a piece of poo poo.

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

This guy wants to be Naked Snake but he's actually Stupid Snake.

Slim Pickens posted:

HELVETICA OR DEATH

Two good candidates for new thread title right there in my stupid loving opinion

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Dead Reckoning posted:

against Lost Cause sympathizers, Sovereign Citizens, racists, homophobes, and anyone else who has opinions they disagree with, whether or not those people are inciting violence.


Do Klanners fall into Lost Cause sympathizers? Because those guys while not Nazi's probably could do with some repression.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
So that plant has an indefinite 6-day fuse to get power back or it goes kaboom.

I've been reading estimates that places in Texas won't have power for months.

Welp.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Hot Karl Marx posted:

You mean a state with the population the size of canada has some bad apples who are poo poo stains no matter what they call themselves? Colour me surprised. And milo is a demagogue who deserves to be afraid to leave the house.

Also the bolded part isn't getting any sympathy from me. Most people upset at anti-fascists are so because they are afraid (or know) they will get hit from them for their lovely opinions. There are consequences to being a piece of poo poo.

Yeah but those consequences shouldn't include getting physically assaulted for exercising your right to freedom of speech.

kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!

Dead Reckoning posted:

That's what I find most disturbing about full-throated embrace of antifa violence: that people seem to relish the prospect of violence not just against actual Nazis (of which there are maybe a few thousand in the United States)

The SPLC reports there being at least 917 active Neo Nazi groups in the US along with the KKK claiming they have between 5-8,000 members. I think there are likely more than just a few thousand in the US.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

The Iron Rose posted:

Yeah but those consequences shouldn't include getting physically assaulted for exercising your right to freedom of speech.

Sure they should. The homophobes and racists use to (and still do to an extent). Talk poo poo get hit bitch

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 18 days!

CommieGIR posted:

"Both sides are the same!" :rolleyes:

What's extra funny about this is the same people saying it are the same folks that would shriek and flap about any time Pelosi said anything or appeared or otherwise existed are now falling to the ground to kiss her heels because she said Antifa Is Bad™

MA-Horus posted:

Also you guys have kinda made your reputation in the world by killin' Natzees. Why is there so much hand-wringing about it now?

My status quo!!! Police!! Do something!

Proud Christian Mom posted:

probably because their supposed allies - liberals - are little more than GOP collaborators

Ding ding.

Hot Karl Marx posted:

You mean a state with the population the size of canada has some bad apples who are poo poo stains no matter what they call themselves? Colour me surprised. And milo is a demagogue who deserves to be afraid to leave the house.

Also the bolded part isn't getting any sympathy from me. Most people upset at anti-fascists are so because they are afraid (or know) they will get hit from them for their lovely opinions. There are consequences to being a piece of poo poo.

Basically.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Sure they should. The homophobes and racists use to (and still do to an extent). Talk poo poo get hit bitch

Didn't realize that we've gone back to the 1500s in terms of our political development. Speech isn't violence. By all means show up and counter-protests, by all means defend yourself against physical violence, but don't reply to words with fists.

The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Aug 30, 2017

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

The Iron Rose posted:

Didn't realize that we've gone back to the 1500s in terms of our political development.

Talk poo poo get hit has been a part of our republic since forever, less we forget Preston Brooks beating Charles Sumner nearly half to death on the Senate Floor for calling out South Carolinas senator for being a slave holding poo poo

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Aug 30, 2017

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
I'm not saying hit everyone you don't agree with, but boy oh boy the handwringing is rich considering the following

You might maybe just maybe be unlucky enough to get clocked by someone or otherwise physically assaulted if:

-You attend a hate-speech rally
-that rally targets peoples who have historically been enslaved, murdered, sterilized, institutionalized, etc
-you stick around when antifa or similar folk show up
-(in many cases) you get violent with them rather than just holding a sign
-(in many cases) you increase your odds for targeting by being a visible and vocal leader of such a group
-(oh and also your tactic is use speech to get a foothold, then if you get real power, destroy those rights and straight fuckin' wreck your opponents with state-sanctioned violence and lol at how dumb lower case liberals were)

Like me oh my, violence is bad mmkay, but cry me a river that someone meeting that criteria might be unlucky enough to get hit when the oppressed who've had enough were murdered en masse in recent history.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

The Iron Rose posted:

Didn't realize that we've gone back to the 1500s in terms of our political development. Speech isn't violence. By all means show up and counter-protests, by all means defend yourself against physical violence, but don't reply to words with fists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof


MY FREE SPEECH

I'm done talking about this. I made my point.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
to be frank people who advocate slavery and genocide and are met only with fists are getting off very light.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 18 days!

Proud Christian Mom posted:

to be frank people who advocate slavery and genocide and are met only with fists are getting off very light.

But the funny faces on the comedy news said hurting nazis was bad and you can just ignore it! #imwithher2020

666
Jun 27, 2002

Carrion Fairy
Not sure how antifa works in the states, but i've met more than a few european antifa types and i, being a dirty socialist myself, do not have a very high opinion of them. Most of them are just as impressionable and intolerant as the nazi scum they're supposed to be fighting, to the point where their allegiance to the political left feels more like a coincidence than actual conviction, and in the absence of actual nazis, 99% of their misguided anarchist rage is generally aimed at things that are well within the accepted political spectrum.

If you were to make a venn diagram of euro antifa, antiglobalists and political anarchists, it'd practically be a single circle. In europe at least, they certainly do not disappear in the absence of swastika-carrying scum, but rather spend their time loving up legit protests and being general all-purpose assholes. A good portion of my social circle are highly leftist and have punk/activist backgrounds and the vast majority of them will have absolutely nothing to do with flag-flying antifa types.

That said, there is still no moral equivalence and all loving nazis must loving hang.

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
From my very brief and incidental brush with Euro antifa, they are on another level compared to US antifa.

Also lol watching SHARP (Skineheads against racial prejudice) thoroughly humiliate a drunk racist dude and his friend without actually hurting them beyond dumping a beer over his head and chasing them off was some funny-rear end poo poo. Drunk German man, maybe don't walk up to a Döner stand and try to spit on the meat spit. If anything, I think the SHARP gang saved these dumbasses from furhter violence at the hands of drunk, hungry Germans in line for Döner.

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