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I can't tell if Keith is stupid enough to be betraying both the Earth AND Loran, or stupid enough to be trying to sell the militia a bridge. He does realize that his best friend works for possibly the richest man on Earth, right? Have they not invented business loans? Edit Oh, wait, he meant the one they came to Earth in. Still stupid, just less stupid. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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I mean, the Frost Brothers were bad just because they were super boring. I didn't hate them so much as I was just annoyed by them.
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Shinjobi posted:I mean, the Frost Brothers were bad just because they were super boring. Worst characters:
*Gundam Wing - Everyone's pretty much covered it by calling Wufei a big turd, so I'll throw Tubarov into the mix. Even though he's not a major character, he's a major character of consequence. Plus, his dub made him an annoying poo poo which is... actually, I guess he rounds out to being alright for a bit villain. If not Wufei, then Trowa because DULL. *SeeD/SeeD Destiny - I wanna say Cagalli but truthfully she got hosed over by meta-events surrounding the show, so they kind of made her poo poo in Destiny on purpose. To that end I wanna say Athrun but... Yeah, Kira's the gold standard for dumb boring Marty Stu character if ever there was one. *Turn A Gundam. Will Game. Except because Turn A is Good, it knows exactly what to do with him in 1-2 episodes and gives his terribleness some meaning. *00 Gundam: Wang Liu Mei. All she does is show up, act rich girl and smug, and then leave while believing herself to be some sooper-dooper plotter or something. *Zeta Gundam: Reccoa Londo is pretty bad, but Katz somehow manages to be worse AND gets like, half the cast killed by being stupid. *Char's Counterattack: Quess/Hathaway get to share this distinction, with Quess getting a little bit more hate although Hathaway is quite a bit of a shitlord himself. *F91: They're all bad.
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Katz is a good character who dies from a terminal case of hero worship.
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But who is the best Gundam character
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Guy Goodbody posted:But who is the best Gundam character Yoshiyuki Tomino, Gundam Sousei.
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Guy Goodbody posted:But who is the best Gundam character   
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Guy Goodbody posted:But who is the best Gundam character
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Relena Peacecraft is the best gundam character no buts about it
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Amuro makes up for generic action hero by being probably the single most terrifying pilot I've seen in a Gundam, save maybe Mikazuki.
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Guy Goodbody posted:But who is the best Gundam character The one you hate 
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Shinjobi posted:Amuro makes up for generic action hero by being probably the single most terrifying pilot I've seen in a Gundam, save maybe Mikazuki. Io?
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the best Gundam characters are the tiny Zakos from SD Gundam Force who do the variety show at the end of every episode.
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Lazy effortpost and bad opinion zone: The entire point of Gundam Wing is that those who have the will to win will win. Those who attempt to fight pacifists cannot have more will to win, because pacifism is so much will that you don't even have to fight, which is how pacifism will triumph. You 'choose to lose' when the battle has a moral stance, and the victor thus decides what is moral. This is why automated mobile suits are a problem, because they simply don't give a gently caress and will subjugate even the pacifists. This is why the zero system is so freaky, because not only does it pipe poo poo into your brain it also predicts your death and is like "you better be using me for what you believe in, because this is how your poo poo will get wrecked otherwise." Heero's gig with Relena is that he's choosing not to fight her, but warning her ("I will kill you") the whole time that as soon as she strays from pacifism he will loving wreck her poo poo. All of the other Gundam pilots have their reasons to not fight, which is why they lose all the time until they get on the side they want to win for. Except Wufei, because he's a loving idiot who just wants to fite ppl irl. I don't think Wufei does anything of consequence through the whole loving series. He's the guy at the D&D table who just wants to fight the other PCs and can't figure out why his stealth rolls fail when he tries to sneak in broad daylight on a city street. He then gets salty and broody when he loses battles for the reasons that are the very theme of the show. Wing is still in my top 10-15 anime. Zechs carries that poo poo. Ranzear fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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I can't say the best but I can say my top 5 faves are Loran, Relena, Sochie, Domon, and Emma. Heero just barely falls outside the top 5 but is a solid 6.
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Zinnerman and Bright Noa.
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As for best, Mika is top 5 for sure, Julieta might be too. Neither of them bellyache about anything; they know exactly what they're in for and exactly what they do very well, while keeping an eye on the (sometimes lovable) morons around them. Io from Thunderbolt is somewhere between them, just for being nega-Char (Daryl is nega-Amuro) and jamming the gently caress out all the time. Io is exactly what Shino was trying to be. Zechs is definitely in there. Domon rounds it out. Apply no ordering except Io being in the middle. Ranzear fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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Guy Goodbody posted:But who is the best Gundam character It's Yazan 
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Jerid. Ramba Ral's Origin interpretation.
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The best Gundam character is Mr Ral from Build Fighters
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the best gundam character is the very rude haro from gundam 00
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brainwrinkle posted:The best Gundam character is Mr Ral from Build Fighters Phillipine Dub version is the best Mr. Ral.
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Guy Goodbody posted:But who is the best Gundam character Souske Sagara.
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Speaking of Gundam Wing, it looks like they literally just started putting up HD remaster episodes on the gundaminfo youtube channel. Unfortunately, it is not the dub. The captions appear to match the dub though. Dare I hope for a bluray release? Dare I hope further that this means Frozen Teardrop?
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chumbler posted:Speaking of Gundam Wing, it looks like they literally just started putting up HD remaster episodes on the gundaminfo youtube channel. Unfortunately, it is not the dub. The captions appear to match the dub though. https://www.rightstufanime.com/Mobile-Suit-Gundam-Wing-Collectors-Ultra-Edition-Blu-Ray
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Raxivace posted:Uh did you miss that we're already getting Wing blu rays? Apparently I did! Thanks for the information and it is time to put in an order.
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LuiCypher posted:Worst characters: Them's fighting words! Victory Haro is best Haro.
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Droyer posted:The one you hate that's crazy, no one would ever say 
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Raxivace posted:Uh did you miss that we're already getting Wing blu rays? Any info on the quality of the transfer? Wing had pretty grainy look to it (from memory at least) and I wonder how good it'll look on the new format.
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Shinjobi posted:Amuro makes up for generic action hero by being probably the single most terrifying pilot I've seen in a Gundam, save maybe Mikazuki. I'd say Mikazuki's a lot scarier. Amuro usually at least has the cover that he's trying to protect his friends/earth/haro. Mikazuki is more of a stone cold killer both in and out of the Gundam. He spent the first few episodes straight up shooting people in the face because Orga told him to.
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RillAkBea posted:I'd say Mikazuki's a lot scarier. Amuro usually at least has the cover that he's trying to protect his friends/earth/haro. Mikazuki is more of a stone cold killer both in and out of the Gundam. He spent the first few episodes straight up shooting people in the face because Orga told him to. Also Amuro will at least stop if an enemy's disabled. Mikazuki will just keep going to make sure they are dead. By pulping them with Barbatos' mace.
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Amuro's never done anything as violent as Mikazuki's American History X stamp on that one guy's cockpit. All the other Tekkadan pilots like 'loving hell, mate'.
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jackhunter64 posted:Amuro's never done anything as violent as Mikazuki's American History X stamp on that one guy's cockpit. All the other Tekkadan pilots like 'loving hell, mate'. Remember that the Lupus Rex has piledrivers in its heels. Mika don't play.
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I'd still rather fight Mika then cca amuro, he was so competent in that movie that he clowned char without even paying attention to him half the time, he was just on a different level in that movie
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An important thing to note about Mika: Mika is viscous and brutal fighter but he pretty much never faces a single pilot on his level in the entirety of the series. The closes is genuinely and honestly probably either Gali-Gali, Julieta or an unmanned mobile AI. The first fights him alongside other people, the second never really wins a fight except insomuch she doesn't die, and the last required him to cripple himself and trash his robot to defeat. On the other hand while he wins pretty much every fight he's in he's probably not the most genuinely talented pilot in the setting. That is probably Julieta who fights at an absurdly high level of skill without an AV system. Mika is a scary pilot but he's a scary pilot in a setting where 90% of the pilots are soft and inept whereas he's in one of the biggest pieces of gear in the setting and literally hooked into his robot. Direct comparisons to how he stands up to other Gundam pilots are hard because Mika is never thrown up against an equally talented pilot.
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MonsieurChoc posted:
Victory Haro straight up murders people
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ImpAtom posted:An important thing to note about Mika: Nah, has to go to McGillis. Dude waltzed through entire squads of enemies and took out a Gundam in a fair fight with a single-reactor suit and no Alaya-Vijnana System, and after getting a fairly basic set of whiskers and a fairly basic Gundam, he demolished a significant part of a fleet single-handed (even if Rustal was deliberately going easy on him, it's safe to say the people he killed were trying as hard as they could to not die) and fought the insane bullshit that is the Kimaris Vidar and its Alaya-Vijnana Type-E to a draw. Mind you, you do also have to give props to Galan, Crank, and Amida, who all did incredibly well with seriously crappy suits against vastly superior opponents. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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Mika would be a terrifying pilot to fight against since he's got the AV system and he's brutal. The fights in IBO also don't lend themselves to quick deaths since there's no quick death by beam. However, if we're talking about pure skill, it's gotta be CCA Amuro. Amuro pretty much takes on all the ace pilots that Neo zeon can throw at them and doesn't even break a sweat. Hell he's beating newtypes in top of the line mobile suits with a crappy mass production version of the zeta. Even in his big fight wtih Amuro, arguably the best Zeon pilot ever, the worst that happens to the nu is that it loses his weapons and it's crotch get's melted. CCA Amuro is a goddamn monster.
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Darth Walrus posted:Nah, has to go to [=McGillis=]. Dude waltzed through entire squads of enemies and took out a Gundam in a fair fight with a single-reactor suit and no Alaya-Vijnana System, and after getting a fairly basic set of whiskers and a fairly basic Gundam, he demolished a significant part of a fleet single-handed (even if Rustal was deliberately going easy on him, it's safe to say the people he killed were trying as hard as they could to not die) and fought the insane bullshit that is the Kimaris Vidar and its Alaya-Vijnana Type-E to a draw. Mind you, you do also have to give props to Galan, Crank, and Amida, who all did incredibly well with seriously crappy suits against vastly superior opponents. I'm leaning towards Amida, personally. Three year old suit against an ace in the best mobile suit made since the war, and she makes her opponent feel like a joke.
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