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Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Jerry Cotton posted:

I never knew the SIKK GRAFIX on a BBC Micro were that... SIKK? That's pretty nice.

Yup, SIKK GRAFIX and crappy monotonous "gameplay"... Must be a Crobbler production?

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

The BBC didn't have many good games. Lack of memory (32K was impressive in 1982, laughable by 1984. And the way the display worked meant you might only actually have 12K available for your game code) meant it was ignored by all the major publishers. So it didn't get any of the big releases of the time and instead BBC owners were mostly stuck playing slightly shoddy knock-offs of old arcade games, and loads of text adventures.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

I had to connect to a proprietary coffee vending machine. Was pulling my hair out until I realized it was expecting 7N1

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

Scaramouche posted:

I had to connect to a proprietary coffee vending machine. Was pulling my hair out until I realized it was expecting 7N1

Come now, I don't think shooting it qualifies as a fix!

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




shovelbum posted:

Come now, I don't think shooting it qualifies as a fix!

Noice.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Sweevo posted:

The BBC didn't have many good games. Lack of memory (32K was impressive in 1982, laughable by 1984. And the way the display worked meant you might only actually have 12K available for your game code) meant it was ignored by all the major publishers. So it didn't get any of the big releases of the time and instead BBC owners were mostly stuck playing slightly shoddy knock-offs of old arcade games, and loads of text adventures.

Repton, Citadel, Master of Magic, Imogen, Mr. Ee and Exile are outside, they'd like a word.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
So I was at a General Geekery convention (lotsa board games, lotsa video games, plenty of anime tat for sale, they had a pretty sweet pinball room this year... fun times) and one of the stalls was selling mostly japanese import video games and CDs... but there was one thing they successfully talked me into buying.



No video cable, but those woodgrain boxes are full of cartridges and the entire thing was $40. I'll show off more when I'm over con exhaustion.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

Keiya posted:

So I was at a General Geekery convention (lotsa board games, lotsa video games, plenty of anime tat for sale, they had a pretty sweet pinball room this year... fun times) and one of the stalls was selling mostly japanese import video games and CDs... but there was one thing they successfully talked me into buying.



No video cable, but those woodgrain boxes are full of cartridges and the entire thing was $40. I'll show off more when I'm over con exhaustion.

Nice. I have one of those and a CC-40 in a box with a whole bunch of financial program cartridges. My grandfather bought them to do banking work in the 80s.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Jedit posted:

Repton, Citadel, Master of Magic, Imogen, Mr. Ee and Exile are outside, they'd like a word.

And Commander Jameson is going to shoot the poo poo out of you and scoop up your cargo

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Keiya posted:

So I was at a General Geekery convention (lotsa board games, lotsa video games, plenty of anime tat for sale, they had a pretty sweet pinball room this year... fun times) and one of the stalls was selling mostly japanese import video games and CDs... but there was one thing they successfully talked me into buying.



No video cable, but those woodgrain boxes are full of cartridges and the entire thing was $40. I'll show off more when I'm over con exhaustion.

That's pretty awesome. You know anything about a MyArc MPES/50 that goes with the TI-99?

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Keiya posted:

So I was at a General Geekery convention (lotsa board games, lotsa video games, plenty of anime tat for sale, they had a pretty sweet pinball room this year... fun times) and one of the stalls was selling mostly japanese import video games and CDs... but there was one thing they successfully talked me into buying.



No video cable, but those woodgrain boxes are full of cartridges and the entire thing was $40. I'll show off more when I'm over con exhaustion.

Nice!

There's something wrong with mine, when I got it years ago I tried booting it up and I think something's up with the composite video port, it was outputting nothing / garbage.

darkpool
Aug 4, 2014

Jedit posted:

Repton, Citadel, Master of Magic, Imogen, Mr. Ee and Exile are outside, they'd like a word.

I'm a huge Repton fan, don't be telling me about how it's just Boulder Dash, I will bore you to tears about how it certainly is not. I still have my original copy from when I was about 7 I guess.



I'd also like to add Revs to the list, which is the first proper racing simulator I believe. I took a job interview recently with a bunch of former ARM people and had a proper Acorn geek out about the old days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L18wG4p5fQE

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

darkpool posted:

I'd also like to add Revs to the list, which is the first proper racing simulator I believe. I took a job interview recently with a bunch of former ARM people and had a proper Acorn geek out about the old days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L18wG4p5fQE

I'd forgotten about that bastard, Hugh Jengine

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!

Code Jockey posted:

Nice!

There's something wrong with mine, when I got it years ago I tried booting it up and I think something's up with the composite video port, it was outputting nothing / garbage.

I would recommend the F18A, a compatible video board that produces VGA output, but it's out of stock.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
I'll try and get some pictures here. I came up with a TI-99 with several cart games with the box. Has a MyArc MPES/50 with it. Only came up with 2 websites with any information on it, and one called it "an incredibly uncommon item." There have been pretty much ZERO ebay auctions with this thing.
Also have a modem coupler for it, where you put a phone handset on top.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









spog posted:

And Commander Jameson is going to shoot the poo poo out of you and scoop up your cargo



There was also a kickass version of defender.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

sebmojo posted:

There was also a kickass version of defender.
Well it's a dirty, filthy job, but it's gotta be done.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Holy poo poo, I just bought a cheap consumer printer for the first time in ages and even before opening the box I had a USB A to B cable ready. Nope they FINALLY include it! Remember the days when they wouldn't be included?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Humphreys posted:

Holy poo poo, I just bought a cheap consumer printer for the first time in ages and even before opening the box I had a USB A to B cable ready. Nope they FINALLY include it! Remember the days when they wouldn't be included?

Well yeah because USB hadn't been invented yet.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Humphreys posted:

Holy poo poo, I just bought a cheap consumer printer for the first time in ages and even before opening the box I had a USB A to B cable ready. Nope they FINALLY include it! Remember the days when they wouldn't be included?

I I bought a $100 laserjet back in '10 and it had a USB cable in it, I think.

Why'd they pack them separately anyway? Was it just a way for peripheral companies to take a cut?

God, monster cables were/are such bullshit.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Jerry Cotton posted:

Well yeah because USB hadn't been invented yet.

Certainly not according to all the local shops when I needed such a cable because I didn't imagine that they wouldn't include such a vital component.

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
The last time I bought a PC printer was back in the XP days. Are there any brands that actually sell a plug-and-play printer that doesn't want to install a bunch of useless poo poo?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Cindy Shitbird posted:

The last time I bought a PC printer was back in the XP days. Are there any brands that actually sell a plug-and-play printer that doesn't want to install a bunch of useless poo poo?

I remember how disappointed I was with "plug'n'play" printers because they were basically always less plug'n'play than I was used to. (I.e. plugging it into mains, running a parallel cable to the computer, and just ramming text > PRN.)

3D Megadoodoo has a new favorite as of 10:27 on Sep 1, 2017

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
I bought a Dell 830C at goodwill for $25 like five years ago and it's awesome.

It said it had an empty/depleted black toner cartridge so I bought a new one. Five years and like a thousand pages later that "empty" toner cartridge is still going strong.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Printers are such terrible pieces of poo poo. I have a color laser, a b&w laser, and an inkjet and there have been situations where all three have refused to print at the same time. It’s the one technology that hasn’t gotten more reliable over the years.

Although I am still amazed when I can print from my phone or tablet. That feels like magic.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy
I have worked with all kinds of printers from cheap consumer grade poo poo to hilariously expensive Direct to Garment printers and they are all garbage. Its just seems impossible to build a printer that works fast and reliable. The best printers i've used are super simple B/W laser printers. And even with those i just installed one that just would not loving work unless i install the drivers from the weird virtual CD drive it emulates the moment you plug it into the pc.
gently caress printers.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Shai-Hulud posted:

I have worked with all kinds of printers from cheap consumer grade poo poo to hilariously expensive Direct to Garment printers and they are all garbage. Its just seems impossible to build a printer that works fast and reliable.

So how the gently caress have you never come across a mid-90s Canon LASER printer :confused:

mystes
May 31, 2006

Jerry Cotton posted:

I remember how disappointed I was with "plug'n'play" printers because they were basically always less plug'n'play than I was used to. (I.e. plugging it into mains, running a parallel cable to the computer, and just ramming text > PRN.)
This is like when plug and play pci cards started coming out but they were actually a complete nightmare when you tried to combine them with ISA cards that used dip switches to set the irqs.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
So long as you weren't terrified of the enigmatic PC LOAD LETTER, HP Laserjets were always pretty solid. And you could run a little program to make it display whatever you wanted on that screen.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I grew up with an Apple Laser Printer we got at an auction. That thing was solid, then again we were also using Macs at the time, so that probably helped with them always working.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
I swear every printer has hidden code that knows when something is due and without fail finds some way to stop working.

Best I had was one that decided to ignore the local network despite printing fine a moment ago.
Then after failing to get it back up I lug it across the office to hook up directly via USB. Still no dice.

Had to get reception to print the documents off their machine.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Iron Crowned posted:

I grew up with an Apple Laser Printer we got at an auction. That thing was solid, then again we were also using Macs at the time, so that probably helped with them always working.

Where I used to work circa 2003, one of my main duties was cleaning the printers and such. Some of those LaserWriters were absolute beasts that would just go forever, especially the 810, as long as you replaced a plastic gear every so often as it liked to melt.

One time I had to call HP about an issue on a Laserjet 4500 and had the best tech support experience in my life when they kept apologizing profusely for making me wait 5 minutes. That was the moment they won my brand loyalty and I really haven't been let down since, to be honest.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
My favorite printer was a Panasonic KX-6500. I got it used for dirt cheap and it was rock solid until they stopped support for new versions of Windows.

I bring it up because it’s obsolete and it looked awesome.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I should have said it in my last post but the universal call for anyone in IT or required to install printers is:

"gently caress Printers"

EDIT: The big rear end company I work for seems to have a mysterious issue with network printers - the printers seem to lose their IP randomly and it's always when it's 'important'. We are talking from C level down to invoice printers at a sales desk. Solution so far? Put al call over the interanl PA "SAVE YOUR WORK NOW WE ARE PRINTER REBOOTING THE SERVER". Yes all of our software relies on the server.

This message brought to you by a company where a managers email accounts will respond to each other with the 'I am away from the office please direct all email to x addres" - I have a screenshot of the flood somewhere on a phone.

On USB, I remember a time when USB was first being touted as the next best thing. An anecdote I read multiple times was 'no more driver discs, no configuring, the device tells the computer what it is and how it works' - such a simpler time haha.

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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Explosionface posted:

Where I used to work circa 2003, one of my main duties was cleaning the printers and such. Some of those LaserWriters were absolute beasts that would just go forever, especially the 810, as long as you replaced a plastic gear every so often as it liked to melt.

Yeah, the only reason we dropped it was because we switched to PCs, and in 1997 it was easier to just buy an ink jet.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Humphreys posted:

This message brought to you by a company where a managers email accounts will respond to each other with the 'I am away from the office please direct all email to x addres" - I have a screenshot of the flood somewhere on a phone.

Hahaha gently caress. Reminds me of this one dude who accidentally emailed the entire US Army org box in the "to" field.

Cue literally thousands of replies, cries for unsubscription, inflated egos clashing over information assurance, etc. The entire Army had their inboxes destroyed but this dumb idiots email.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

This is why you only let a very select list of people send mail to large distribution lists.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
The Laserjet 4050 was the pinnacle and it's been all downhill since then.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry
Brother B/W laser printers are pretty decent and reasonably cheap.

gently caress inkjets for ever, though.

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Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747
[quote="“Dick Trauma”" post="“475969098”"]
The Laserjet 4050 was the pinnacle and it’s been all downhill since then.
[/quote]

5si was better, laser/scanner assembly was built like a tank.

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