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throw to first drat IT posted:I don't think drug sellers are going to take out their leadership. I don't think they are going to take out anybody, really. Especially not some beat cops who are charged to arrest them.
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Isn't it a bit early to be drinking?
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In happier news, the Bernergate keeps happening  quote:Matkustajaliikenteen kilpailuttamismalli saa kyseenalaistavan vastaanoton arvostetun kansainvälisen Boston Consulting -yhtiön raportissa. Invisible hand can't fail, it can only be failed! #suomi100
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Sep 1, 2017 17:31
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Ligur posted:But the police? I asked, very politely, if without a police force and a justice system, what would stop me from pummeling yout to half-death (guys were like 150lbs pasty geeks from a poo poo university pre-SJW, I'm a scary 230lbs ogre with scars) and just taking their phones and wallets and walking away. Weird party where they have 300 lbs of straw just lying around.
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Sep 1, 2017 17:48
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Herman Merman posted:Isn't it a bit early to be drinking? I understand your sentiment, maybe you don't live in Helsinki and think this cannot be real, but this was... actually, like, a real situation. These guys who look like Skrillex had never thought about "what am I going to do if someone just beats me up and steals my phone and there is nobody to go to. No police. No nothing.". They had never figured out their existence is partly made possible by the police. WTF.
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Sep 1, 2017 17:57
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And then everybody stood up and clapped.
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Sep 1, 2017 18:05
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There are some really dumb people around, so whatever, maybe it did happen. "No police" is not the position of the Greens or any other political party though, so thanks for the anecdote about some dudes you met at a party.
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Sep 1, 2017 18:17
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Herman Merman posted:Has there been a single case of retribution against a Finnish cop or their family by organized crime? In Turku at least: Yes.
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Sep 1, 2017 18:42
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Herman Merman posted:Why is it exactly that cops need to wear balaclavas, ever? So drug lords can't tell if the cops they are bribing aren't still busting their businesses.
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Sep 1, 2017 19:11
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Käytetään kiloja, ei paunoja, kiitos.
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Sep 1, 2017 19:14
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Rappaport posted:In happier news, the Bernergate keeps happening As it turns out Suomi 100 isn't a celebration, it's a time limit.
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Sep 1, 2017 19:22
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Ligur posted:But the police? I asked, very politely, if without a police force and a justice system, what would stop me from pummeling yout to half-death (guys were like 150lbs pasty geeks from a poo poo university pre-SJW, I'm a scary 230lbs ogre with scars) and just taking their phones and wallets and walking away. Acknowledging poo poo this like this is good though. Civilization and democracy are all that stands between ogres taking your poo poo, whether the ogres in question be cops or robbers.
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doverhog posted:Acknowledging poo poo this like this is good though. Civilization and democracy are all that stands between ogres taking your poo poo, whether the ogres in question be cops or robbers. All, literally all, to quote Jerry "no cops" fuckheads think that without cops they could have their way with everyone who disagrees. No, snowflakes, it doesn't go like that. The police are the people who protect all the poo poo nobody likes. If not for the police kemberboyd, rexroom and stefu would not like the reality they live in. There would be nobody to protect these guys.
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Sep 1, 2017 19:58
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Yes, but cops being under democratic oversight is equally important. Look at the US, cops murder people all the time and don't get convicted of anything. There's a lot of whining around but we have it pretty good here compared to most places.
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Cerebral Bore posted:And then everybody stood up and clapped. And the name of that Skrillex? Albert Einstein.
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The belief that without the police radical left-wingers would have their way is hilarious. No, snowflakes, it would not be very fun for you.
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Drunk posting your violent fantasies at 10 am while also self identifying as an ogre is the most ligur thing. If somehow he could include some uhriutuminen it would be the perfect package. Also I don't think stretch marks count as scars.
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Fated To Be Fat posted:Drunk posting your violent fantasies at 10 am while also self identifying as an ogre is the most ligur thing. If somehow he could include some uhriutuminen it would be the perfect package. Valmis Helsingin Sanomien toimittaja havaittu. edit: hoidetaampa se uhrisektori samaan syssyyn kun unohtui: jengi väittää, että olen natzisti Ligur fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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*shits out a stream of rich black permfrost which solidifies mid-flight into an ice spear that pierces the heart of this thread, killing it instantly^
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Don't know if it's more sad that ligur sew the need to share his story of him totally owning some Skrillexes by totally not threatening them, that he then went on to ramble about his totally normal fantasies of what would happen to them lefties if the cops weren't around or that he literally doesn't get how all this makes him look.
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Minusta on surullista, että aikuiset (todennäköisesti, ei voi olla varma) ihmiset kuvittelevat, että olisipa elämä yhtä pullaa jos vaan ei olisi niitä poliseja ja virkavaltaa. Jos niillä on vielä konepistooli niin sitten on kaikki pilalla! Ketjun rexroomit ja kemperit taitavat olla nimittäin mielipiteineen ihan tosissaan. Antifan naamasuojatut pällit saisivat rauhassa heitelle pulloja 612-marssin mummeleiden päähän, sitten olisi yhteiskunnan vikatilat korjattu. Ei vittu taida ihan oikeasti mennä niin. Mitä väkivaltafantasioihin tulee niin en ole toivonut tällä palstalla kenenkään kuolemaa syöpään tai perheeni kuolemaa tulipaloon yms mitä eri vasemmistoilaiset ovat minulle täällä toivoneet suvaitsevaisuuspäissään, ja se on ihan vitun sama mitä joku Cerebral Bore ajattelee miltä vaikutan koska kyseinen likasanko on kuitenkin sitä mieltä, että olen hitlernatsi. Helvetin itkupilli, mene turvalliseen tilaan. edit: doverhog posted:Yes, but cops being under democratic oversight is equally important. Look at the US, cops murder people all the time and don't get convicted of anything. There's a lot of whining around but we have it pretty good here compared to most places. Ai näinkö on, pollarit jenkeissä murhaa vaan vapaasti porukkaa. Onkohan luettu vähän liikaa taas Hesaria vai mistä on kyse? doverhog posted:There are some really dumb people around, so whatever, maybe it did happen. "No police" is not the position of the Greens or any other political party though, so thanks for the anecdote about some dudes you met at a party. It was meant to be an example of how poorly thought the "no police, police is fascist (if they don't agree with me)" position is. Yes it did happen. No, I don't think the Greens want to vaporize the police or whatever. Ligur fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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Sep 2, 2017 12:41
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Arvelen, että tietyissä porukoissa tuota tullaan kauhistelemaan fasismin nousuna (esim. tämä ketju). Marco de Wit vai kuka vittu se on varmaan johtamassa operaatiota Pekka Siitoimen kanssa. Kaikki torille marssimaan pahaa vastaan.
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Ligur posted:
They are trained to shoot to kill, and shoot people to death pretty often, and don't get convicted for doing so even when the suspect was unarmed and running away, or laying down with his hands on his head. Finnish police didn't even kill the knife-man in Turku.
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Sieltähän se uhriutuminen tuli lol
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Guns kill people even if you don't aim for center of mass, as explained to me by a Finnish policeman i knew. If you look at the videos where american cops kill people, you'll notice that one huge difference is that those cops keep pointing their gun at people until they die in a puddle of their own blood, whereas Finnish cops are trained to administer first aid and call for an ambulance right away after shooting someone and confirming they aren't dangerous anymore. I assume that because guns are used so rarely, there's an actual capacity to make sure that protocol is followed when people get shot, and individual fear or laziness doesn't lead to unnecessary gunshot deaths in the same way. EDIT: I left it unclear, but IIRC he said that finnish cops in fact are trained to aim for center of mass, because guns are only used when there's an actively dangerous person there, priority one against those people is to stop them, and what is done after shooting someone tends to be more important for preserving their life than where they were shot. uncop fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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doverhog posted:They are trained to shoot to kill, and shoot people to death pretty often, and don't get convicted for doing so even when the suspect was unarmed and running away, or laying down with his hands on his head. Finnish police didn't even kill the knife-man in Turku. Mutta nyt tuli partioautoon ämpeefemmat, ja ruumispinot kasvavat varmasti koska olen vasemmistolainen superhörhö. Double tap osuu kehoon ja Hitler äänestetään presidentiksi. Jos ei vielä niin ihan kohta.
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Rappaport posted:In happier news, the Bernergate keeps happening Is everything you disagree with a gate now? Anyway, very difficult to take this particular YLE reporter seriously when she can't even get the name of the company (Boston Consulting Group) right (it's not known as Boston Consulting or Boston). It speaks quite a bit to her knowledge of business, or her ability to read the report she linked.
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Is everything you disagree with a gate now? I debated briefly between -gate and -ghazi, but that time the classic felt better. I'll pick -ghazi next time, thanks!
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Is everything you disagree with a gate now? It's very difficult to take your posts seriously when you can't even get the name of the company (Yle) you're criticizing right (it's not known as YLE).
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Ligur posted:Antifan naamasuojatut pällit saisivat rauhassa heitelle pulloja 612-marssin mummeleiden päähän, sitten olisi yhteiskunnan vikatilat korjattu. Ei vittu taida ihan oikeasti mennä niin. Yes, all of the people taking part in the 612-marssi were just lil old grandmas paying their respects to the veterans and not literal loving neo-nazis, are you absolutely sure this is the hill you want to die on since you've been pushing this "innocent elderly folk attacked by antifa scum" myth for quite a while now?
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DanTheFryingPan posted:It's very difficult to take your posts seriously when you can't even get the name of the company (Yle) you're criticizing right (it's not known as YLE). Tbf I'm pretty sure they used to stylize their abbreviation as "YLE" for several years until their most recent rebranding (now it's "yle", all lowercase). I totally thought it's YLE rather than Yle myself until I checked just now.
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TBF I think it's hard to take GP seriously anyway because he thinks privatizing the railroads is a good idea.
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Zat posted:Tbf I'm pretty sure they used to stylize their abbreviation as "YLE" for several years until their most recent rebranding (now it's "yle", all lowercase). I totally thought it's YLE rather than Yle myself until I checked just now. It speaks quite a bit to his ability to read the article he commented on.
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Is everything you disagree with a gate now? Shut up Geriatric Piegate.
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But guys you just don't understand that those consultant reports that say the government's privatization plan is bad are WRONG whereas the ones that say it's really really good are RIGHT because
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ALLAN LASSUS posted:But guys you just don't understand that those consultant reports that say the government's privatization plan is bad are WRONG whereas the ones that say it's really really good are RIGHT because Pretty ironic given that I actually posted a link (from YLE/yle/Yle) which discusses the differences between the reports (BCG and Spring Advisor vs Ramboll) and concludes that the only one that even tried to measure benefits to society instead of just the cost to VR was Ramboll. As well as the fact that the Ramboll one took much longer to make and wasn't just put together in 2 weeks. That was ignored, and then the BCG report was posted so you guys could pat yourselves on the back for being so right again. Meanwhile you keep jizzing your pants over whatever latest report estimates the costs of privatization to the state owned monopoly. What a surprise, opening up railways to competition will hurt the profits of the incumbent, I guess this means privatization is bad! It's similar to you ignoring the mountains of economic evidence on the benefits of privatization and instead repeating "therr is only 1 track!!!!!"
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