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Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Superbowl to you, my friend.

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Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

"The final duty of all good posters is to post in the banme thread."

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



Coolguye posted:

here lies haier

he always scored

He Who Smelt It
Jun 14, 2012

Haier Hitrer?

Gargamel Gibson
Apr 24, 2014
Now that he's gone, what's the point?

kimcicle
Feb 23, 2003

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Either way, your posts are funny and I will miss them.

:same:

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

I now no why you cry.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

mojo1701a posted:

I now no why you cry.

:golfclap:

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

RIP Haier, gone to sploopy poop heaven.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Xerxes17 posted:

"The final duty of all good posters is to post in the banme thread."

- Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, Ethics for Chinar

Vapor Moon
Feb 24, 2010

Neato!
The Human Font

quote:

I have been living in China the past 6 weeks alone for a game development summer camp. I'm from Northern Ireland. Fast forward to yesterday, I'm about to get on the plane home but I am stopped and told I have overstayed my visa. A member from the company came and was informed I was being fined ¥3000, around £300. This wasn't a massive deal for the company so he was going to pay, and let me go home. But we were then informed the company is not allowed to pay the fine since they were not a guardian of mine, and I was not allowed to pay the fine since I was underage. To make matters worse the fine had to be paid in cash, and my parents were in Ireland. I have been travelling around a lot today going to different police offices and stuff, but there hasn't been much progress, and also it is the weekend tomorrow, so there is not much we can do then. School started yesterday and I'm not sure how much I'm gonna miss. I'm not gonna lie I'm pretty terrified, and I really am not educated in all this legal stuff. Can anybody explain the situation to me, and maybe give some advice on what I can do to get home quicker?

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6xdmdy/im_14_and_stuck_in_china_with_no_way_of_getting/

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Why do people staying in authoritarian dictatorships stepped in both pedantic legalism and corruption get shocked when doing something as serious as violating their visa gets them into trouble? Don't loving overstay your visa anywhere. You should have a plane ticket home lined up well before it's over.

"No, it just says Chinese Visa in my passport. My parents specifically asked the embassy for 60 days but they only gave me 30" apparently no one knew and nothing in the stamp gave any dates???

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Baronjutter posted:

Why do people staying in authoritarian dictatorships stepped in both pedantic legalism and corruption get shocked when doing something as serious as violating their visa gets them into trouble? Don't loving overstay your visa anywhere. You should have a plane ticket home lined up well before it's over.

dude is 14

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Yeah it looks like his parents just hosed up. They asked for a 60 day visa, got a 30 day visa unknowingly but had the trip all correctly arranged for a 60 day visa. Probably a fuckup on the chinese side or just a cash grab, poor kid.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
Wtf you shouldn't let unaccompanied minors travel jesus christ.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

14 is perfectly old enough to travel, especially if it's all a tightly controlled program. There's tons of international programs like that for high school aged kids. Send your kid off to france for a special summer program through your school's french immersion program. Send your kid off to Prague for a month to go to some sort of english language tech camp thing. They get a fun safe educational trip. It's just usually the kid going to a safe country that doesn't need visas or have a history with loving people over at the border or extorting bribes.

Which is why most Canadian youth orgs and schools have now blacklisted the US for travel because there's a much higher chance of getting into a hosed up situation like this kid did.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!



I remember this guy posting about going over, seems to have gone better than expected

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Who the gently caress doesn't check their visa though? Hell I check my change in a shop, check an email before I send it, you telling me a visa is less important to some people than that?

Although I was told by an American visa guy that my passport looked "in too good a condition" for its age so maybe I'm just supa srs about proper travel documentation

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Reasons I've been detained or delayed or pulled aside while traveling

-Was dressed too fancy, drug mules often try to dress extra respectable.
-Was dressed too light, it's winter sir, why aren't you in a heavy winter jacket while spending 26 hours inside warm cramped airports and planes???
-Looked too energetic and alert after such a long flight, why so alert???
-Border official thought I looked like like Diego Luna so pulled me out of the line while acting official just to wait for his co-workers to come take a gander at me and weigh in on if I totally looked like Diego Luna (I do not)
-Passport was extremely dog eared and worn after multiple long trips with it living in my pocket.
-A different passport was too pristine and the stamps were too perfectly arranged.
-Was going home less than a week before my visa ended.
-Was going home way before my visa ended.

Basically, no why.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

I've never had any problems at immigration including the time I had a really bad flu in the middle of the N1N1 crisis. Then again, I'm white.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Jeoh posted:

I've never had any problems at immigration including the time I had a really bad flu in the middle of the N1N1 crisis. Then again, I'm white.

ive had plenty of problems at immigration going to and from central america precisely because i'm white/young (i one time saw an agent look back, catch me in the line, and smile broadly - he naturally hit me up for a bribe before i even had my papers out). immigration and customs are universally awful experiences and while i love going to places, i loathe traveling to them because i know it's going to be one long string of bullshit until i hit my hotel room.

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
China and the USA (I'm American) are the only two countries I detest entering, although for different reasons. In china they have asinine legalism carried out by people who clearly don't give a poo poo, in America there's asinine legalism carried out by people who give way too much of a poo poo. Also American immigration lines are usually super loving slow for no discernible reason.

Seriously, it's embarrassing to me that our customs service is the first impression foreigners get of our country.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-41122597

lmao australia is really attracting all the batshit chinese

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
Haier, your post about stomach breathing indicates a severe misunderstanding of the digestive and respiratory systems. Yes, it's possible to "breathe with your stomach" by lowering your diaphragm instead of expanding your rib cage, but you mentioned 1) that it made your esophagus hurt, 2) that it caused you to burp, and 3) it caused bloating. The esophagus is used for swallowing, not breathing, regardless of whatever kind of breathing is taking place; if air were moving through your esophagus, you were swallowing it. Burping and bloating are unrelated to breathing of any type. When you breathe in air, regardless of how you do it, it only stays in your body until you exhale. No method of breathing will cause air to stay in your body long term, and certainly won't result in it ending up in your stomach/intestines (unless there is something very wrong like a hernia, as others have mentioned). Similarly, burps only come from the stomach, not the lungs. You were just swallowing air, dude.

That said, have a great time in India. I loved your stories here.

simplefish posted:

I remember this guy posting about going over, seems to have gone better than expected

Is this really the same kid? I remember the other one saying he was being recruited by a game company to actually develop for them and/or sell his existing work, not go to some bullshit video game production camp. I'm guessing he got Chinar'd harder than he's willing to let on, and was conned into paying for a worthless set of classes.

Escape Addict
Jan 25, 2012

YOSPOS
Like Lao Tzu, Haier rides out of the China Thread on the back of a water buffalo leaving behind only his wisdom.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Devils Affricate posted:

Haier, your post about stomach breathing indicates a severe misunderstanding of the digestive and respiratory systems. Yes, it's possible to "breathe with your stomach" by lowering your diaphragm instead of expanding your rib cage, but you mentioned 1) that it made your esophagus hurt, 2) that it caused you to burp, and 3) it caused bloating. The esophagus is used for swallowing, not breathing, regardless of whatever kind of breathing is taking place; if air were moving through your esophagus, you were swallowing it. Burping and bloating are unrelated to breathing of any type. When you breathe in air, regardless of how you do it, it only stays in your body until you exhale. No method of breathing will cause air to stay in your body long term, and certainly won't result in it ending up in your stomach/intestines (unless there is something very wrong like a hernia, as others have mentioned). Similarly, burps only come from the stomach, not the lungs. You were just swallowing air, dude.

You're super late to the party mate. We have gone past 4.20 minutes of a guy on youtube rear end breathing and have moved on.

CIGNX
May 7, 2006

You can trust me

Devils Affricate posted:

Is this really the same kid? I remember the other one saying he was being recruited by a game company to actually develop for them and/or sell his existing work, not go to some bullshit video game production camp. I'm guessing he got Chinar'd harder than he's willing to let on, and was conned into paying for a worthless set of classes.

Looks like it is. If you look at their posting history, they made two threads about being 14 and going to China to develop something. They deleted the OP but some of the comments they made are still up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/6pv6xy/im_14_and_developing_games_for_a_huge_chinese/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/6pv7zp/im_14_and_in_china_developing_vr_games/

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Coolguye posted:

ive had plenty of problems at immigration going to and from central america precisely because i'm white/young (i one time saw an agent look back, catch me in the line, and smile broadly - he naturally hit me up for a bribe before i even had my papers out). immigration and customs are universally awful experiences and while i love going to places, i loathe traveling to them because i know it's going to be one long string of bullshit until i hit my hotel room.

I'm male, white and about thirty and have almost never had issues getting in or out of a country except once when my passport was a holy mess of stamps and the guard wanted to lock me up for a while until he realized it was too hot to deal with this poo poo and told me "Don't come back, don't ever come back!".

Another I might have overstayed a visa once by ~12 hours, depending on how you calculated days, and the customs lady gave me a bunch of strife, ralised I couldn;t understand her, printed off a piece of paper, made me sign it and got me to understand that a) I had over stayed (I think) b) I had to pay a fine c) I couldn't pay it then, I had to present the paper and pay it the next time I came back to that country and c) the fine was about $3. I lost the piece of paper a few years ago, and have been living in fear that I'll apply for a visa or try to enter another country one day and the system will click and I'll be hosed but... nothing seems to have happened. Part of me thinks I was never flagged in the database, she just gave me the paper and expected the honour system to kick in or something. :shrug:

The only time I got hit up for a bribe at an internal border checkpoint. I acted like the dumbest fucker gringo on the planet and refused to understand that wanted cash for a solid twenty minutes until he gave up and told me to go away. It'd been holding up the bus and when I told the slightly pissed locals sitting near me they laughed and thought it was great. Apparently everyone in corrupt countries hates corrupt cops.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


CIGNX posted:

Looks like it is. If you look at their posting history, they made two threads about being 14 and going to China to develop something. They deleted the OP but some of the comments they made are still up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/6pv6xy/im_14_and_developing_games_for_a_huge_chinese/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/6pv7zp/im_14_and_in_china_developing_vr_games/

Haha, I went and looked at his post history as well because I thought it might be the same kid and sure enough it was.

I remember the comments on the OP broke down along two lines: the developers were all like "Go for it man!! An 'internship' in China is an awesome opportunity and there's nothing at all shady about this!!!!", and the people with China experience were saying, "Son, you are going to get Chinared. We can't tell you when and we can't tell you how, but it WILL happen."

Guess which side was right.

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


TsarZiedonis posted:

China and the USA (I'm American) are the only two countries I detest entering, although for different reasons. In china they have asinine legalism carried out by people who clearly don't give a poo poo, in America there's asinine legalism carried out by people who give way too much of a poo poo. Also American immigration lines are usually super loving slow for no discernible reason.

Seriously, it's embarrassing to me that our customs service is the first impression foreigners get of our country.

I used Mobile Passport coming into a notoriously bad airport (O'Hare) and it took me exactly ten minutes from getting off the plane to getting into a cab. Mobile Passport loving rules

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


TsarZiedonis posted:

Seriously, it's embarrassing to me that our customs service is the first impression foreigners get of our country.

I've never had any problems at all with US immigration and feel like I've been living in some alternate universe. TSA sucks but customs is always fast and super chill. Last time I went back was the first in four years and I expected questioning but nah, nobody cared.

China's probably the worst I've been to for it but even then it's not too bad. The only hassle is the utterly insane, endless security theater. I'd take TSA a thousand times before going through Chinese security again, gently caress. Last time I flew I had to go through five security checks to TRANSFER PLANES WITHIN THE AIRPORT.

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
I'm going to miss Haier and his ridiculous stories I showed them to my wife about how ridiculous China is and we moved to interior British Columbia instead of loving stupid china with kids as my wife was offered a p decent job in an ex pat Beijing community a while ago

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Baronjutter posted:

Why do people staying in authoritarian dictatorships stepped in both pedantic legalism and corruption get shocked when doing something as serious as violating their visa gets them into trouble? Don't loving overstay your visa anywhere. You should have a plane ticket home lined up well before it's over.

"No, it just says Chinese Visa in my passport. My parents specifically asked the embassy for 60 days but they only gave me 30" apparently no one knew and nothing in the stamp gave any dates???
I managed to overstay my visa in China once. I had a multiple entry visa and me and the wife were supposed to go to Hong-Kong and back so it would count as another entry but we didn't have time and I forgot about it. When I was going home the lady in the passport control was looking at my passport for a looooong time and eventually got some guy in a very serious looking uniform over. He also studied my passport for about ten minutes and then said: "please sir, don't do it again."

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

100% of the bullshit I've ever encountered at airports has been at US airports. From recent conflict ridden high alert Ukraine to death penalty for drug trafficking Malaysia to all over europe it's a breeze, I'm either interacting with competent humans, or people who don't give a poo poo and wave you through. The US is this horrible blend of people with zero competency but who give a huge huge poo poo. They're extreme adversarial for no reason, rude, seem to push people's buttons just to escalate. I will pay more money to avoid any flight that involves a US airport.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



I'm glad Haier died.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The only time I've been pulled out and searched at an airport was entering China, because my luggage had books in it and they needed to be inspected.

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

Look at all these posters who've never had to deal with Russian passport control.

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
Lol, please tell Russia stories.

Also yeah, I should clarify: US customs at Dulles is consistently bad and horrible, the longest I've waited to get through was nearly two hours. The US customs annex in Toronto is also pretty meh.

Landing in SF a few weeks ago was actually cool and good though, so I guess YMMV?

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

Well, it's just reliably slow and terrible.

The one standout story was at a border crossing from Finland where they made us all wait in a line for "customs" checking for half an hour, seeing us all from an office, then finally walking out and just waving us through the green "no checks" gate anyway. What a waste of loving time.

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VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RepARd6db7c

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