Chilichimp posted:

Ignore those guys, Kale, talk to us about identity politics.

Kale posted:

People flinging poo poo and trolling each other on twitter and reacting to various interest forums 24/7 is the modern definition of identity politics to me, not to be confused with actual civil rights movement that have occurred in the past.

Kale posted:

Except when they have a way of forcing the issue. Okay cool though let's step back and do the dog pile villification now when I say this whole loving thing is stupid. Like oh not not a gamer *gasp*. The loving horror. Let's see where this goes now, probably somewhere stupid as I predicted because it always does when you inject identity politics into a discussion

William Contraalto posted:

Hmm, I've been in situations kind of like yours, but I didn't start talking about how they were legally required to like me and what I said because otherwise they'd bring it up constantly. I guess I'm just not an expert socializer.

i am harry posted:

If you just stop posting. This all goes away.

Kale posted:

Why is it important to me that people actually understand where I stand on something instead of allowing a misrepresentation to fester for another day where people can try to attack me on it again when they feel like getting down and personal and attacking other users? Why wouldn't it be? Maybe other posters don't care if others completely misrepresent theirs and other words constantly but I do. They even tried to do it again with the "you people" thing which was obviously meant to refer to posters that attacking other posters by trying to re-characterize it as some sort of race baiting thing. Not cool goons.

Anyway back to actual happening poo poo, I think anybody could have predicted that anybody that Trump feels is trying to put constraints on his ability to appear as the big boss man that makes all the decisions and has all the facts very much bigly isn't going to stay in his good graces for very long. The position of White House Chief of Staff is simply untenable under this administration and president.

Kale posted:

I wasn't aware I did either nor felt that way. If I was desperate for people to like me I'd be "taking the L" and just following along with the herd on things instead of actually going back and following the chain of convinces and maybe considering the possibility that the person claiming to have been misinterpreted might have actually been misinterpreted. I'm fully content with simply not being misquoted and misrepresented but if people choose to like me or my company that's definitely a nice bonus and absolutely a preference.

Zwiebel posted:

The entire Kelly/Trump dynamic seems like a setup for a hosed up sitcom.

"He's a by the rules general that has served his country diligently and undaunted, but he has met his greatest challenge yet with a garbage pail kid piss baby in the White House."

It's not funny without the laugh track though.

Koalas March posted:

Kale posted:

I wasn't aware I did either nor felt that way. If I was desperate for people to like me I'd be "taking the L" and just following along with the herd on things instead of actually going back and following the chain of convinces and maybe considering the possibility that the person claiming to have been misinterpreted might have actually been misinterpreted. I'm fully content with simply not being misquoted and misrepresented but if people choose to like me or my company that's definitely a nice bonus and absolutely a preference.


I somehow doubt that. A couple days later it's likely somebody else being attacked and misrepresented completely. As I've tried to point out while people are busy posting sassy reaction memes it's not like it's just me getting this poo poo often.

Randbrick posted:

Because it is my NAME! Because I can never have another!

Koalas March posted:

Kale posted:

I somehow doubt that. A couple days later it's likely somebody else being attacked and misrepresented completely. As I've tried to point out while people are busy posting sassy reaction memes it's not like it's just me getting this poo poo often.

Unoriginal Name posted:

Have you ever considered that you were poo poo at stating your opinion and that's why people attacked you for it

Or is it always their fault and you just wander around confused where everyone got these ideas about what you mean

Captain Monkey posted:

You're a sealion. A really obvious one. That's why nobody is taking you seriously.

William Contraalto posted:

Well, on the face of the evidence, no, you weren't actually misinterpreted and you should probably gently caress along now.

farraday posted:

I think Kelly will try and hold on but September is going to be a stress test for the Republicans and I'm not sure how Trump is going to handle it. He doesn't care about the actual agenda items but it's unlikely to be a month for positive news. 100% legislative process, which he has no interest in, fillowed by negative coverage of compromise and failures which he gets so very pissy about.

Randbrick posted:

Nobody is leaving this loving Applebee's until everybody is god drat clear about where I stand on race war.

Kale posted:

And your problem is being dogshit at interpreting what others are saying in the worst possible light and not just accepting that what the person actually implied was the total opposite of what your saying when they've said it what...5 times now? Like seriously have you ever just considered that maybe that's it, maybe you just blew it on the interpretation completely and utterly?

Chilichimp posted:

I love how you speak in generalities but are specific enough we all know you're just talking about KM.

Doctor Butts posted:

Not sure why but no matter what happens Kale seems to be always defensive about everything and I get this weird feeling like he wants to get peeps to white knight him and tear the thread apart.

Trabisnikof posted:

Your problem is you're blaming everyone else for your lovely post. If you didn't mean what you posted then own up to your mistake.

And you're only making it worse by assuming we all care enough for you to keep yelling about it page after page.

Kale posted:

See I thought it was cause of the whole group mentality thing. Still learning stuff today it turns out.

Fluffdaddy posted:

I distinctly remember him wandering into negrotown doing something similar a few months ago trying to tell us racism was over or some other weak rear end take and went on and on about how it was us just misunderstanding him. It has to be a performance art.

Kale posted:

Oh great this thread is obsessing over loving identity politics too, literally the most tortuous and inconclusive conversation and poo poo fit to come out of the internet in the past 3 year. Personally I'm more concerned about the crazy man in the White House this thread is about than whether millennials feel a given gender or minority is being championed or oppressed enough in the United States or not.

Kale posted:

Yes but then I realized it doesn't really get any loving clearer than "It's almost like it's a matter of perspective and not all that important in the grand scheme of things eh". It's funny because the person I was replying to seemed to get it no problem too.


See I thought it was cause of the whole group mentality thing. Still learning stuff today it turns out.


Really what evidence was that and when was it considered cause this is something I've been trying to find out for a few pages now.

hanales posted:

Another productive slap fight in the trump thread.

Thank god it's wednesday and the week is almost over. This weekend I'm going hiking in the mountains around my rural cleveland neighborhood.

Chilichimp posted:

Just figured I'd resurrect this loving gem.

Kale posted:

Outright bald faced lie but okay.

Doctor Butts posted:

Not sure why but no matter what happens Kale seems to be always defensive about everything and I get this weird feeling like he wants to get peeps to white knight him and tear the thread apart.

Lead out in cuffs posted:

I mean, the guy in the Google memo kept repeating this too. If he said it so many times, it must be true.

Seriously, though, we've got "virtue signalling", "identity politics", "I support civil rights but", and gamergate. Who's got an internet neofascist bingo card handy?

Koalas March posted:

If he invokes MLK, or Bernie I have a Bingo!

Kale posted:

Why are people being attacked and implied to be racist for quoting and agreeing with one of the lynchpin lines of MLK's I Have A Dream Speech? Rational explanation right around the corner I'm sure.

Maaatt Daaaamon posted:

“The deal was that if you wanted to shoot in one of his buildings, you had to write him in a part,” Damon said in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter. “Martin Brest had to write something in 'Scent of a Woman' - and the whole crew was in on it. You have to waste an hour of your day with a bullshit shot: Donald Trump walks in and Al Pacino’s like, 'Hello, Mr. Trump!' - you had to call him by name - and then he exits.”

“You waste a little time so that you can get the permit, and then you can cut the scene out," Damon said. "But I guess in “Home Alone 2” they left it in.”

William Contraalto posted:

"I don't understand why people are taking my history of posting about how racism doesn't matter today and using that to understand my current posts! It's so unfair, it's hell dumping!"

Chilichimp posted:

Just figured I'd resurrect this loving gem.

Captain Monkey posted:

You're a sealion. A really obvious one. That's why nobody is taking you seriously.

Chilichimp posted:

Just figured I'd resurrect this loving gem.

Kale posted:

Yes the arguing around in circles with no potential of a resolution thing really is stupid to me. The soul searching that America is trying to do in the aftermath of Charlottesville (that happened literally a day after ) and trying to figure it's poo poo out I made that post is something that I think definitely needs to happen though. Sorry I just don't think things get resolved and people's quality of life improves by flinging poo poo at each other on the internet and forcing discussions about identity politics into places where they have no place.

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Kekekela posted:

These last twenty pages or so have been very confusing, I was thinking Kale was just the guy with bad Celsius opinions.

William Contraalto posted:

Discussions about racism have no place when discussing the Ku Klux Klan? Do you know anything, one single thing, at all?

Koalas March posted:

please don't helldump me tia