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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:So why did this dude leave again? Wasnt making enough money to pay his upcoming legal fees. No really.
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Hellblazer187 posted:I think sometimes this thread is too hard on Covok, and plus it's weird to see the verb Arzying replaced. I can't even remember because 2016 might as well be 1916 at this point, but was Arzy stopped-clock right, or right-right?
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Nocturtle posted:Arzy was right. IIRC Arzy flipped out about every minor poll movement in 2008, scared Obama would lose. So he was wrong about being freaked out, cause Obama won. Then I think he got some fancy high finance job and became a Romney supporter for 2012. So he was wrong for doing that too. Although if he really made enough money to throw all his ideals away maybe he made some OK university choices. Edit: I have no idea if he was active here during 2016, and if he was right about anything then. I just remember that "Arzying" was the term for "irrational freakout at minor bad news" for years after the '08 election. Maybe Covoking is different because it's "semi rational freakout at actual terrible news but please shut up because all of us want to cry all day long but we can't because we're now numb to pain after the last 20 years" Hellblazer187 fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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I have no loved ones and refuse to go outside. Some uplifting news for those defying Koala with me. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/904752000147087360
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/904738121127952384 There's so much poo poo going on and things are getting worse and worse and yet this fucker still won't leave or get impeached. This is such bullshit.
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Calibanibal posted:yall lucky I aint a mod or I would give people permission to express themselves and not police thoughts I deem overly negative or pessimistic We're obviously not lucky because you continue to post.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:He also referred to liberals as race traitors He also called them "race traders" in the same post and I honestly don't even know what that means.
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Discussion Quorum posted:I can't even remember because 2016 might as well be 1916 at this point, but was Arzy stopped-clock right, or right-right? Arzy was a broken digital clock that endlessly flashed 00:00.
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Curious when the first nation to start accepting political asylum seekers/refugees from the US will be and which country it will be. Canada seems the most obvious for a number of reasons, but I could almost see Russia doing it just as a gently caress-you troll joke.
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Calibanibal posted:yall lucky I aint a mod or I would give people permission to express themselves and not police thoughts I deem overly negative or pessimistic  THOUGHT CRIMES 
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Dick Trauma posted:This is meaningless. Haha true. Trump running roughshod over laws as a literal tyrant is why he has been so successful and why he has achieved so many of his campaign promises like And
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Hellblazer187 posted:I think sometimes this thread is too hard on Covok, and plus it's weird to see the verb Arzying replaced. We haven't had a need for the word "arzying" since Nov 8, 2016.
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Sep 4, 2017 18:18
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Hellblazer187 posted:IIRC Arzy flipped out about every minor poll movement in 2008, scared Obama would lose. So he was wrong about being freaked out, cause Obama won. Then I think he got some fancy high finance job and became a Romney supporter for 2012. So he was wrong for doing that too. Although if he really made enough money to throw all his ideals away maybe he made some OK university choices. I meant that the main takeaway from 2016 was that none of us were Arzying enough. Maybe the world would be a better place if there'd been a little more Arzying. Also to be honest I'd probably take a highly remunerated finance job if offered.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Haha true. Trump running roughshod over laws as a literal tyrant is why he has been so successful and why he has achieved so many of his campaign promises like Trump is incapable of doing huge political illegalities because of his sheer incompetence but I'm sure he's well practiced in making little "gifts" disappear.
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Nocturtle posted:Also to be honest I'd probably take a highly remunerated finance job if offered. Oh, same, but I'd still vote Democrat.
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Inferior Third Season posted:Arzying is worrying too much about terrible things happening when good or neutral things are likely to happen. Covoking is worrying too much about apocalyptic things happening when only terrible things are likely to happen. Got it. Yep, that about sums it up I guess.
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Koalas March posted:Y'all are lucky I ain't a d&d mod and anymore because anyone hardcore Covoking would get a challenge to go doomsay in the streets lmao. Thanks for your mega hot sheetcaking take!!
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Sep 4, 2017 18:23
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:There's more to it than just that. Statistically speaking, Americans are willing to work longer hours than just about any other developed world country. It's that those jobs are underpaid, unsanitary, and/or dangerous, and if you're here legally and can get a job in an air conditioned wal-mart instead, that's what you do. If you aren't here legally and can't get any better work, ok then. You are barely above OECD average though? OECD average is 1763 annual hours per worker, the US is sitting at 1783. (2016 values) Top of the leaderboard by the way is Mexico with 2255 hours.
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Thanks for your mega hot sheetcaking take!! Hell yes, I am looking forward to every goddamn left-wing activist killing themselves because shrieking idiots like you have reclassified self-care and psychological well-being as "sheetcaking" and will probably move on to declaring that psychiatric medication is some other dumbass meme.
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Thanks for your mega hot sheetcaking take!! You're welcome rando CAC!
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farraday posted:I have no loved ones and refuse to go outside. Not so quiet now, eh. Good job Canada.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I could almost see Russia doing it just as a gently caress-you troll joke. If they did, those asylum seekers would be dead pretty soon after.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Haha true. Trump running roughshod over laws as a literal tyrant is why he has been so successful and why he has achieved so many of his campaign promises like Careful, you might have missed a post that you wanted to contradict. Best scroll back a few hundred pages to get them all!
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botany posted:You are barely above OECD average though? OECD average is 1763 annual hours per worker, the US is sitting at 1783. (2016 values) Top of the leaderboard by the way is Mexico with 2255 hours. are you advocating that the US become a third world country for the people on the lowest rung of society?
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Condiv posted:are you advocating that the US become a third world country for the people on the lowest rung? I don't understand how you got that out of "Americans do not, on average, work much longer hours than the average for the OECD nations".
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Condiv posted:are you advocating that the US become a third world country for the people on the lowest rung? no, having a low amount of hours worked is actually good! high amounts correlate pretty strongly with lovely worker protection and poverty. the top 5 countries are mexico, south korea, greece, chile and russia. the bottom 5 are france, netherlands, norway, denmark and germany.
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botany posted:no, having a low amount of hours worked is actually good! high amounts correlate pretty strongly with lovely worker protection and poverty. the top 5 countries are mexico, south korea, greece, chile and russia. the bottom 5 are france, netherlands, norway, denmark and germany. I do wonder if the US has a situation where some sectors have people working long hours but other sectors balance that out by relying primarily on temporary workers, though, creating a "worst of both worlds" situation.
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William Contraalto posted:I don't understand how you got that out of "Americans do not, on average, work much longer hours than the average for the OECD nations". because hieronymous alloy said: "Statistically speaking, Americans are willing to work longer hours than just about any other developed world country" that doesn't leave much room to grow hours worked per year unless you want to leave developed country standards behind for those at the lowest rungs
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botany posted:no, having a low amount of hours worked is actually good! high amounts correlate pretty strongly with lovely worker protection and poverty. the top 5 countries are mexico, south korea, greece, chile and russia. the bottom 5 are france, netherlands, norway, denmark and germany. i agree, and i also think farm workers should be paid higher wages
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William Contraalto posted:I do wonder if the US has a situation where some sectors have people working long hours but other sectors balance that out by relying primarily on temporary workers, though, creating a "worst of both worlds" situation. i have no idea, but it sounds plausible to me. if you can dig up some statistics about that, i'd love so see it.
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William Contraalto posted:I don't understand how you got that out of "Americans do not, on average, work much longer hours than the average for the OECD nations". We work more than most of Western Europe. I think it's a delusion to think the US is more like Germany/France than it is like Mexico or Turkey, though. We're the biggest economy and a former superpower, but we're still in the bottom half of developed nations for like everything though.
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enraged_camel posted:Nah, the reasoning is more like "what no i've got a family to feed i can't do that on $7.50/hr" and you're like "oh i see...
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botany posted:i have no idea, but it sounds plausible to me. if you can dig up some statistics about that, i'd love so see it. Well, I did find a source which notes that salaried overtime is not counted in US governmental statistics, which is probably the OECD source for their numbers. This report uses census numbers that may be self-reported but it does break things down by occupational groups. Something like 30% of managers and legal workers work 45+ hours a week.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:He also referred to liberals as race traitors He doesn't seem to be in any shape to all other people that.
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FizFashizzle posted:The price of food will not go up. The gently caress you talking about? Beef prices have tripled in the past decade.
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Condiv posted:because hieronymous alloy said: "Statistically speaking, Americans are willing to work longer hours than just about any other developed world country" We've kinda already done that, especially if you consider "health care" a developed country standard. Hellblazer187 posted:We work more than most of Western Europe. I think it's a delusion to think the US is more like Germany/France than it is like Mexico or Turkey, though. We're the biggest economy and a former superpower, but we're still in the bottom half of developed nations for like everything though. Yeah this is where I was going. Americans think we live in a slightly downscale England or Germany or France; we don't, we live in an upscale Brazil.
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William Contraalto posted:Well, I did find a source which notes that salaried overtime is not counted in US governmental statistics, which is probably the OECD source for their numbers. This report uses census numbers that may be self-reported but it does break things down by occupational groups. Something like 30% of managers and legal workers work 45+ hours a week. there's also a poo poo-ton of wage theft at the lower rungs, which almost certainly doesn't get reported in statistics. just an anecdotal example, but when i was working pizza delivery at both dominos and pizzahut, they would allocate our stores a certain number of worker hours to get work done. it was always way too little, and so managers would be pressured to push people to clock out early to clean the store and such when we closed. not direct pressure of the kind "you better get them to clock out or you're fired", more like "you better get your hours under control or you're fired".
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Bottom Liner posted:The gently caress you talking about? Beef prices have tripled in the past decade. Beef is not "food" and has always been expensive as gently caress relative to other proteins
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William Contraalto posted:Well, I did find a source which notes that salaried overtime is not counted in US governmental statistics, which is probably the OECD source for their numbers. This report uses census numbers that may be self-reported but it does break things down by occupational groups. Something like 30% of managers and legal workers work 45+ hours a week. that's interesting. i've checked the OECD methodology for US numbers and they say they "slightly upward revise" the numbers they get from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, but don't explain why. I wonder if that's to account for salaried overtime.
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