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Mister Kingdom posted:Never cared for the "D" but I did like the "E". Same.
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Sep 5, 2017 01:48
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Years of practice?
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hiddenriverninja posted:Why is Andy Dick's face so punchable? Because he's constantly on the verge of breaking into tears. Years ago there was a video of him on YouTube talking about his miserable experience on Voyager. Apparently he was really struggling with the technobabble in the script, and since he didn't have contacts and couldn't wear his glasses, he couldn't use cue cards or cheat sheets off-camera. The director was frustrated and pissed off, and took it out on him, pushing him to the verge of a breakdown. Unfortunately that video doesn't seem to be online anywhere any more. That notwithstanding, it's one of my favourite episodes of Voyager. It's goofy and silly, and Dick's performance as an irritating EMH replacement is fun.
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Sep 5, 2017 02:06
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Mister Kingdom posted:Never cared for the "D" but I did like the "E".  The E is sort of a 24th Century Excelsior class. Long and lean.
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Sep 5, 2017 02:40
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If I take the D's saucer, turn it sideways, then stick it on a Constitution refit engineering hull, I get the E.
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Sep 5, 2017 04:01
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Hmm. Is he talking about the exciting new CBS Star Trek television program? Nope, he's doing visual effects for The Orvile.
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Sep 5, 2017 04:32
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shadok posted:Because he's constantly on the verge of breaking into tears. Andy Dick is the reason Phil Hartman is dead. gently caress him.
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Sep 5, 2017 04:38
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shadok posted:Hmm. Oh hey that's next Sunday. It'll be nice to have these questions answered about just how dark our timeline really is.
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Sep 5, 2017 04:40
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8one6 posted:Andy Dick is the reason Phil Hartman is dead. gently caress him. To be fair, Dick filmed that episode in October of 1997 and the incident with Hartman's wife that lead to his death didnt happened until May 1998. Maybe being treated like poo poo by rear end in a top hat producers accelerated his drug use, and the Hartmans were just collateral damage. TL;DR: Voyager killed Phil Hartman. gently caress Voyager.
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Sep 5, 2017 04:43
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8one6 posted:Andy Dick is the reason Phil Hartman is dead. gently caress him. Hate Andy Dick all you want, but Brynn Hartman is the reason Phil Hartman is dead.
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Sep 5, 2017 05:01
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shadok posted:Hate Andy Dick all you want, but Brynn Hartman is the reason Phil Hartman is dead. Dick gave her the drugs that she relapsed on. At least that's the story I've heard with why he's so hated in Hollywood.
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Astroman posted:
Except the Excelsior has lovely art deco flair and the E is all jagged xtreme.
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Arglebargle III posted:Dick gave her the drugs that she relapsed on. At least that's the story I've heard with why he's so hated in Hollywood. Brynn Hartman was mentally ill, and was toxic and abusive to Phil for years. Everyone who knew them told him to get far, far away from her. Andy Dick may or may not have given her cocaine but he didn't put the gun in her hand and pull the trigger.
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Sep 5, 2017 05:27
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I like the Ent-D because it really looks like it comes from a society with different sensibilities to ours. Most of the criticism centers around it looking too much like a space hotel and the saucer being overly large with gigantic windows everywhere and that is entirely the point of the ship. Early TNG was portraying an age where humanity had grown complacent and too comfortable with space, and the ship looks like a product of that time.
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Senor Tron posted:I like the Ent-D because it really looks like it comes from a society with different sensibilities to ours. Yeah, this is how I feel too. I love the weird, impractical look of it and the boring beige space hotel interior. I love that the crew quarters are these ridiculously spacious little apartments despite the ship's complement not being anywhere near its actual capacity. I even love the gaudy wood trim on the bridge. It feels like a ship that was designed to bring the Federation with it wherever it went, no matter how far away it was from Earth. I actually really wish they had had the budget and the motivation to show things like the main shuttle bay or cargo bays that weren't just little rooms with precariously stacked and unsecured death barrels. I love the idea of the Ent-D being this ship that was designed to just go somewhere, set up in orbit, and do literally anything that needed to be done all by itself.
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shadok posted:Hmm. Still can't believe this kid got an actual job doing what he loved and working on several big projects after appearing as the biggest punchline in Trekkies.
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Senor Tron posted:I like the Ent-D because it really looks like it comes from a society with different sensibilities to ours. Disagree with the 'complacent' part, but I do love the D for those reasons. She's a ship of a mature civilisation.
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shadok posted:Did you never watch M*A*S*H somehow? I've been going through MASH for the past few months. In season 8 now and have been really loving it so far.
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If they are gonna do Prequels and the such just redo TNG with a super budget show us the mall and the dolphins, hell if you have to make it movie universe version of TNG
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socialsecurity posted:If they are gonna do Prequels and the such just redo TNG with a super budget show us the mall and the dolphins, hell if you have to make it movie universe version of TNG How huge would the JJ-Verse End-D even be? The helmsman would have to account for how the ship changes the loving tides of the planets they visit.
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Paradoxish posted:I love the idea of the Ent-D being this ship that was designed to just go somewhere, set up in orbit, and do literally anything that needed to be done all by itself.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Well thanks to a commercial I just realized Cassidy Yates actress is apparently one of the major characters on the Orville. MacFarlane is really hit or miss but I definitely want to check that out. Here's hoping if it is good it doesn't get Foxed. We have a thread!
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Payndz posted:Starship as General Systems Vehicle? Never thought of it that way, but I like it! That was absolutely what the D was meant to be in the starting concepts: a very early proto-GSV. A flying starbase that could rock up at a planet and support massive disparate operations, and carried an entire slice of Federation civilisation.
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Reactions to Basics Parts 1 & 2 -Ugggh they're really gonna go all in on this gross spermjacking plot -Janeway is a terrible captain -Why is Chakotay the voice of reason resisting the bait to go on this quixotic rescue mission of a kid he's never met and warning it may be a trap, and Janeway the one irrationally egging him on to stupidly endanger the ship and crew? Shouldn't it be the other way around, since he's the one emotionally involved here and she's the one with the duties and the responsibility for hundreds of lives under her command? -Just a few months ago the crew almost mutinied because they were sick of dying in pointless battles with the Kazon and wanted to give the Kazon anything they wanted to leave them alone...now the entire crew 100% behind this plan to go attack the Kazon on purpose to save a half-Cardassian baby who might be related to Chakotay but who also might not even exist or might be dead already, with nothing to go on but the word of the traitorous ex-crew member who hates them and has set multiple traps like this for them before. Whaaaaat? Huh? Why? -They can't blow up the ship because....the secondary processors were...damaged? Can no one aim good enough to shoot a phaser at the warp core? Didn't Torres just say antimatter containment is damaged so they can't go to warp or they'll blow up so why not just...go to warp and blow up then? Maybe the crew is just pretending they can't blow up the ship so they don't have to die for the Prime Directive a billion light years from home? -Cullah takes over the ship and immediately asks why they keep the bridge so drat dark in a crisis. Everyone on Voyager is dumber than a Kazon. -Spermjacking failed, thank God. -Seska is somehow dumber than Janeway now -Whaaaaat. Seska was searching for the missing crew member for 12 hours and never thought to scan for the communicator he's still wearing? All the Doctor had to do to find him was say "hey computer who's on board" and it's all "a bunch of Kazon, Seska and her kid but I forgot to mention that, and a Bajoran hiding between decks 8 and 9". gently caress me. -If Seska knows that Thoron radiation is a Maquis technique to hide from Federation tricorders, why not triangulate the source of the radiation and then obviously you'll find the stowaway. -Right so the crew is dumped on a stone age planet, why can't they talk to the natives? We know the translators must be working because they can all understand Neelix and Kess so why can't they talk to the cavemen. Ah gently caress it. -Earlier the Kazon stormed Voyager and won the firefight for the ship in like 5 minutes, but now one Betazoid singlehandedly kills like 20 armed Kazon in engineering, yeah he got the drop on them but, eh whatever. -Somehow overloading the backup phaser couplers stuns everyone on the ship, convenient. -Paris can manually seal off the bridge? Uh shouldn't you have done that during the boarding action instead of letting them walk right in? What a mess. I'm now convinced Janeway is unfit for command wtf. I did like that they brought the Betazoid serial killer back rather than just forgetting that they'd dumped him in his quarters and locked him in for the voyage. Also liked Tuvok's bow. "Just because I'm Native American doesn't mean I can shoot that bow". "It's not for you, I taught archery at the academy". Oh and the chemical that turns you into a suicide bomb was cool. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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The Enterprise-D was a gigantic, comfortable space-liner with several unfinished decks and a crew of just over a thousand, plus a civilian entourage: what better example of a flagship for a utopian, post-scarcity society of explorers? ...then Wolf 359 happened and of course you're still a society of explorers, but now you have to use euphemisms like 'tactical escort' to justify  ships because one of Admiral Stupid's large adult sons was on one of the Miranda-class steamers that went up in flames. 43998.5 never forget[e] and, er, that's why the defiant's phasers go PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW instead of fwsshhhhhzzt. this concludes the lecture spincube fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Sep 5, 2017 08:45
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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Sep 5, 2017 08:48
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spincube posted:43998.5 never forget 
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For all people like to assume they were weak and the Federation complacent, the show always bore out that the Galaxies were absolutely strong and tough. The D was basically the only ship that faced the Borg and didn't get two-shotted that first invasion, and Galaxies were show kicking incredible arse all through the Dominion war.
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MikeJF posted:For all people like to assume they were weak and the Federation complacent, the show always bore out that the Galaxies were absolutely strong and tough. The D was basically the only ship that faced the Borg and didn't get two-shotted that first invasion, and Galaxies were show kicking incredible arse all through the Dominion war.
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MikeJF posted:That was absolutely what the D was meant to be in the starting concepts: a very early proto-GSV. A flying starbase that could rock up at a planet and support massive disparate operations, and carried an entire slice of Federation civilisation. I think of those early TNG bridge designs with sofas and coffee tables, where it was more like a large airport lounge with civilians all just kind of wandering around with coffee.  
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MikeJF posted:For all people like to assume they were weak and the Federation complacent, the show always bore out that the Galaxies were absolutely strong and tough. The D was basically the only ship that faced the Borg and didn't get two-shotted that first invasion, and Galaxies were show kicking incredible arse all through the Dominion war. At the same time, they have the Jem'Hadar destroy a Galaxy in their first appearance to show how tough they are. For at least that brief moment, the Galaxy-class is the Worf of starships. 
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The_Doctor posted:I think of those early TNG bridge designs with sofas and coffee tables, where it was more like a large airport lounge with civilians all just kind of wandering around with coffee. Looking at those, I actually think the show might've benefited with a conference table somewhere on the bridge, to the side or back. It'd be much better for the flow if Picard called all of his officers over to confer, rather than retiring to the observation lounge in the middle of facing off with the Borg. I really love the viewscreen in the second one, it's a pity the tech wasn't there.
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The Defiant's bridge did have a little table in the back.
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FuturePastNow posted:The Defiant's bridge did have a little table in the back. Yeah, but Sisko was the least conferencey captain of all of them.
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Wheat Loaf posted:At the same time, they have the Jem'Hadar destroy a Galaxy in their first appearance to show how tough they are. All starships are as powerful as the plot requires them to be. The Defiant can face off against the Jem'Hadar and one-shot their ships one episode, then later they get rocked around by Birds of Prey that take multiple direct hits and keep on going. Excelsiors and Mirandas get mowed down by the dozen, but one can go toe to toe with the Defiant. And let's just say they must make copious use of DS9's ore processing capability, because the Defiant gets shot apart basically every time they take her out.
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FuturePastNow posted:The Defiant's bridge did have a little table in the back. The McLaughlin Nook
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Zesty posted:I've been going through MASH for the past few months. In season 8 now and have been really loving it so far. I'm hoping to start up a thread shortly, unless there already is one. In which case, let me know!
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So whatever happened to Axanar? It was a steaming pile of hot poo poo last I heard. Is it dead? The website doesn't say much really.
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