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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Gonyo knows his poo poo so no surprise there. I wonder what, if anything, GW has planned to address the prevalence of Smite spam. Word around the con was they're gonna limit the number of smites per turn. I heard 3/turn from multiple people.
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The Sex Cannon posted:Word around the con was they're gonna limit the number of smites per turn. I heard 3/turn from multiple people. Subtract 1 for every consecutive casting of the same power. Less arbitrary and opens up more psyker powers.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:16
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Subtract 1 for every consecutive casting of the same power. Less arbitrary and opens up more psyker powers. Thats a really elegant solution to it.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:17
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I suspect that China doesn't have the capability to produce to the level of quality that GW is doing. This isn't some kind of dig at Chinese manufacturing; it's just that GW has a ridiculously niche application and they have spent literally decades perfecting every aspect of their process. No way. At least when it comes to resin, China can put out higher quality recasts than the original models from GW.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:27
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BULBASAUR posted:No way. At least when it comes to resin, China can put out higher quality recasts than the original models from GW. That's not injection molding.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:That's not injection molding. He said resin, but recasters do seem to be supplying actual plastics now. No clue how they make them.
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Indolent Bastard posted:He said resin, but recasters do seem to be supplying actual plastics now. No clue how they make them. Looks like they scan the original and just accept a hit on detail and size.
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The only thing they still don't touch are vacuum formed plastics such as the realm of battle boards. From speaking with a few of them, it's less about capability and more about setup costs for a niche market. Traditional resin casting isn't an option for those due to shipping costs and material costs.
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Gw plastic is in fact plastic an not magical marine juice that only they can work with. Other companies make fine models.
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JoshTheStampede posted:I think he's trying to say that you shoudln't have to try new stuff or list tailor to beat it, and that ideally your take all comers list should have a chance. I cuold be wrong though. Yeah but he seems to have missed the point that if your TAC list sucks it's going to get beaten. It's not possible or even desirable that someone throwing any old poo poo on the table should have an equal chance of winning. berzerkmonkey posted:Really? I could have sworn that the plastics were made in China and that they only moved in house recently... Maybe you're right and I'm just thinking about the terrain. No the plastics have always been made in Nottingham (except in the Americas where I think they have a subsidiary plant in Mississippi or Missouri, or did?). It's one of the better things GW has done historically and frankly keeping high-tech manufacturing jobs in the UK is something they should make way more noise about.
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Non-Marine psykers across the board need a point increase in general to be honest, the character special rule really makes them all roughly the same toughness at the end of the day.
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The Sex Cannon posted:^^^This guy gets it. This is essentially what happens to me when I play my AdMech. I just park everything and create a box around Cawl. Granted, I haven't gone up against T'au yet, but when I played the Wolves player on Sunday he was trying to pry me off the last burn and pillage point that I parked my Dunecrawler on next to Cawl. He got in pretty close with some Plasma Inceptors (shooting then charging), but they died cause I just backed up and shot them to death with all the surrounding units. During deployment, I've found you definitely don't want to pack everything in super close, because it allows multi-charges. So really my tactics are just a matter of "you might survive this round and kill some of my stuff, but that unit is most definitely dead when I start shooting next turn." I'm not totally sure how this will fare against T'au, since they can get in so close with dropping stuff in. Are they shootier than AdMech?
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On the shooty scale, I'd say Guard have Most Guns, AdMech have Best Guns, and Tau have Most Accurate Guns. If and when you play Tau, use small arms to get rid of drones before you fire the big stuff and you'll be ok. Tau's issue is they lack staying power. Their prime targets are obvious and when you take care of them, they're donion rings. And they suck in combat, almost to a hilarious degree. The really scary Tau suits are commanders with 4 fusion guns. Pros: they can facefuck a large model to pieces in one turn. Cons: only 18" range, lose to guardsmen in combat. Another scary unit are the XV9 suits with 4 burst cannons. Pros: 16 shots each! poo poo! Cons: Pricey, not scary to vehicles, still just suits at the end of the shooting phase. Remember, though, if you get the first turn, kill his stealthsuits and this tactic dies. In the Apoc game at NOVA, the same dude did the same thing and took out my Shadowsword (after the Shadowsword fuckin merked a Lord of Skulls which was tight) but then his commander bomb and stealthsuits all died to a ridiculous amount of lasguns, autoguns, and smites. It was pretty rad.
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Are all the decent looking Eldar units (aspect warriors, rangers etc..) finecast now or are they some other resin that isn't total poo poo? The store just says "finely detailed resin cast" which makes me think they're just shoving words between fine and cast. If so I'll have to hit up ebay for the older metal ones I guess.
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Played a 2k game vs tau. I had a brigade (Captain, jump lt, techmarine, 4 5-man tac squads, 2 5-man scouts, 5 ASM, 2 tarantulas, predator, vindicator, devastators, company vets, sternguard, contemptor, rhino, razorback) He had coldstar, a commander, longstrike in a hammerhead, 3 more hammerheads, 6 crisis suits, 3 broadsides, riptide, 3 strike teams, marker drones It was pretty brutal, I got shot to poo poo. I wiped all his infantry off the table but he killed everything capable of dealing with the battle suits. His riptide died early without doing anything though, and I did take out two broadsides, coldstar, and two of the hammerheads. It would've been an 11-7 win on kill points, but he won on objective. Week 6 konor, I captured 2 of the objectives but all the hammerheads were on number 3 and I wasn't able to get anything close. He had some kind of forge world hammerheads with heavy 16 guns. Company vet sergeant killed a broadside with two thunder hammer hits, which was pretty boss.
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richyp posted:Are all the decent looking Eldar units (aspect warriors, rangers etc..) finecast now or are they some other resin that isn't total poo poo? The store just says "finely detailed resin cast" which makes me think they're just shoving words between fine and cast. It is resin made by gw to cast metal models not designed for it. Therefore despite any rebranding it is still finecast and poo poo.
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The Sex Cannon posted:On the shooty scale, I'd say Guard have Most Guns, AdMech have Best Guns, and Tau have Most Accurate Guns. If and when you play Tau, use small arms to get rid of drones before you fire the big stuff and you'll be ok. Tau's issue is they lack staying power. Their prime targets are obvious and when you take care of them, they're donion rings. And they suck in combat, almost to a hilarious degree. The really scary Tau suits are commanders with 4 fusion guns. Pros: they can facefuck a large model to pieces in one turn. Cons: only 18" range, lose to guardsmen in combat. Another scary unit are the XV9 suits with 4 burst cannons. Pros: 16 shots each! poo poo! Cons: Pricey, not scary to vehicles, still just suits at the end of the shooting phase. Now I want to play against Tau and see how I do. I'll have to check the local scene and see if anyone has any.
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I was hoping people would bitch about Tau being lovely for longer. I wanted to get some cheap ebay minis.
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Bombogenesis posted:Anybody played Deathwatch since 8th dropped? Curious how they're fairing. Probably gonna take mine and get stomped by my old roommates Skitarii. DW ripped my stealers a brand new one with frag cannons, and their flyer is genuinely dangerous and effective. They're expensive per-body, sure, but they have great poo poo working in their favor. Edit: I took some pics of a few Mek Gunz I bashed a couple years back.   
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Blackstar surprised me the other day when I finally managed to work it into a game. Ripped several squads to pieces, smashed every other aircraft out of the sky and even when it got downed it managed to crash right on top of Typhus and kill the fucker. Generally I'm not sure what to think of my DW. Adding the Primaris dudes is nice of course, but without access to their special re-roll tactics and the massive over-pricing of everything (And the dumb, dumb, dumb decision to keep the No Heavy Thunder Hammers for Blackshields change from 7th, despite them not doubling their attacks any more) has got me wishing for a swift codex release.
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I just bought the dark imperium box and have a question before I paint all my new space barbies: do the space marine chapters mean anything game-wise, or is it all just fluff?
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Yes, there are going to be rules for all the chapters, but you can paint them however you want because there's like dozens of successors to every chapter
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Paint them however you like. So long as you play by the rules you can claim one chapter while looking like another with most non-grognards. That said, take a look at the various chapters and their successors and see if any of them both look cool and meet your style of play. I finally started in on painting my models to get prepped for when the full army selection drops. Here's the first 7 Poxwalkers, only 69 more to go!  Still need to decide on basing. Might go standard with some sort of toxic sludge or mud. PierreTheMime fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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The 1d4chan space marines tactics page has everything you need to know about the chapter rules but for the love of gently caress please don't go to the rest of the site
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I get a bit eye roll-y when someone with a blue army that has these big white U shapes all over it plays with White Scar rules or are suddenly Salmanders depending on the edition. But whatevs.
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Geoff Zahn posted:I've lost 99% of the games I've played over the past 18 years of gaming. I still love slamming hams because its all about hanging out with your buds and the small things, like watching perils of the warp rolls turn your plaguecaster into a suicide bomber Same here buddy I'm the opposite of the play2win gamer
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Space Wolves Time: I was able to identify about half the pieces in this army using the GW site, however if anyone can help out with some of the pics below, it'd be much appreciated. Overview:  Close-ups: Bikers  Dreads  Some sort of HQ models  Special Ops I think  Normal Terminators, or some elite squad?  Special hero dude? (mini is metal)  Squad 1  Squad 2  Squad 3  Squad 4  Once again I appreciate all the help with evaluating/pricing out this stuff. I have to admit going through this process has kind of made me nostalgic for my old 40k stuff.
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My Tyranid friend's little brother wants to get into Space Wolves Any advice?
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goose willis posted:My Tyranid friend's little brother wants to get into Space Wolves Start Collecting box, slap him if he adds more than 1 unit of Thunderwolves.
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goose willis posted:My Tyranid friend's little brother wants to get into Space Wolves have him convert primaris boys into wulfen in a tasteful fashion and beat him if he adds anything wolfy
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Is it because there's something wrong with the wolf stuff or is it just because they're corny
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goose willis posted:Is it because there's something wrong with the wolf stuff or is it just because they're corny goons really hate furries but its also heresy
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goose willis posted:Is it because there's something wrong with the wolf stuff or is it just because they're corny Yes.
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Serious advice, Start Collecting then whatever the hell he feels like adding. There's no real trap options like in previous editions, go nuts. Awuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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TheLawinator posted:have him convert primaris boys into wulfen in a tasteful fashion and beat him if he adds anything wolfy I would honestly want to see the final result of that. Because I think tallboy Wulfen would look neat and stand out really well. If not kinda tempted to do it myself at some point with just a five man squad of them. All you'd really need is a decent head and maybe some clawed hands to make them look a bit like how they originally looked like.
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Big McHuge posted:Space Wolves Time: I was able to identify about half the pieces in this army using the GW site, however if anyone can help out with some of the pics below, it'd be much appreciated. Man, these are fantastic. Honestly its 99% just new age plastics, not quite as incredible to behold/valued as the Mordians, but it's painted well. Edit: I was wrong, some of the older 2nd ed metals are in there. Niiice. a cock shaped fruit fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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OptimusWang posted:I just bought the dark imperium box and have a question before I paint all my new space barbies: do the space marine chapters mean anything game-wise, or is it all just fluff? Come over to the goon painting challenge thread and we'll roll you up a chapter you can then stick whatever rules on you like.
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