Hra Mormo posted:

Everything about the Ysayle/Estinien/Alphinaud/WOL party in Heavensward is loving gold. It's so gold it manages to be gold despite including Alphinaud and excluding Haurchefant.

ImpAtom posted:

There is like a 90% chance at some point in the upcoming patch expansions you're going to have to deal with Hien's dad and/or the evil ghost of Hien's dad possessed by Wrexsoul or something.

Recall the quote at the end of stormblood mentions "So rose the children, but what of the father" and that probably refers to both Hien and Lyse.

ilifinicus posted:

there's more than two children of a father involved in the SB MSQ

ImpAtom posted:

Well, yes, obviously so, but they're the two I can most think of as being defined as "rising' during the SB story and whose fathers are repeatedly mentioned during the MSQ.

Thundarr posted:

There's Pippin, though when you ask "what of the father" the answer is "Raubahn is right there giving him a high five".

The more likely child they're talking about is Zenos. He definitely rose, but the cryptic question doesn't preclude them having fallen back down.

Thundarr posted:

FFXIV just has a higher quality of pop culture referencing (Quake Me Up Before You O'Ghormo is a goddamn amazing pun) and also has the decency not to beat you over the head with them by limiting references to quest and FATE names for the most part. Like the enemies in the What's On Your Mind FATE are a fun thing if you get the reference but you never have to put up with an NPC standing there saying HEY YOU THIS IS FROM THAT 80S SONG IT'S A JOKE GET IT?

ImpAtom posted:

The quote explicitly says children, not child.

The full quote is

So fell the hunter, but what of the hound?
So rose the children, but what of the father?

I assumed the fallen hunter is Zenos but who knows.

Mister Olympus posted:

if the hunter is zenos then the hound, being directly subordinate, is fordola.

The children can also be the "oppressed" generation that was instrumental in the revolutions; those people you kept having to convince because they had never known a free ala mhigo/doma. What, then, of those who knew both freedom and slavery? There's the ending question

ImpAtom posted:

The hound could also be.. god, I can't remember her name now but the Doman woman too. They both serve kinda similar roles and are both left open at the end.

You're right about the other part though, since SB does have an ongoing thing about the children being oppressed and then rising.

Gearhead posted:

Her nickname is also The Hound so, well. That's kind of a gimmie.

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Michael Christopher Koji Fox is a loving menace to society, I tell you.

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Michael Christopher Koji Fox is a loving menace to society, I tell you.

Josuke Higashikata posted:

It's good but sometimes I wish he'd actually write something relevant to the game lore and interesting instead of memeing when these happen

Griz posted:

haven't had one of these for a while


also I changed my healer outfit for the first time in a year so here's another glamour shot for the new guy

Josuke Higashikata posted:

It's good but sometimes I wish he'd actually write something relevant to the game lore and interesting instead of memeing when these happen

Countblanc posted:

I hope we see more Krile and Urianger, both of them were sort of written out of the story and then didn't do anything when they inevitably came back. I was really hoping for Krile and Alphinaud as our npc companions in Omega but at least we got something else good.

Fister Roboto posted:

I'm glad that Urianger serves the critical role of sneaking up behind you to deliver exposition and plot devices.

Reiterpallasch posted:

Bolow posted:

12hrs a week was on the low end for a WoW mythic raiding guild, but I have no idea how raiding is in this game.

Josuke Higashikata posted:

I know about the bubble. Maybe they're in the wrong order though sometimes. Lore upfront meems on the bubble should probably be the way it goes.

cheetah7071 posted:

I'm just extrapolating from how hard O3S is. Maybe O4S is even more than twice as long to learn! If it's more like 5-10 times then still working on it isn't so absurd.

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

My group meets two nights a week for 2-3 hours each night, we cleared OS1 and 2 the first week and have been stuck on Hali (Mostly because of life causing late starts or sub ins, etc.)

cheetah7071 posted:

I cleared O1S in one night. O2S after a few days of 2-3 hours.

O3S took me about a week and a half of playing heavily but most of the challenge was finding people who didn't suck; I had the fight down after about 3 days of playing with most of my spare time. Haven't attempted O4S but even assuming it's literally twice as hard to learn as O3S any group raiding for 12 hours a week should have have it on farm by like week 3 or 4 (and it's now week 9 I believe). Once everything's on farm it's a few hours one night a week.

e: I don't fully understand how raiding in WoW works but my understanding is that the paradigm is that even the most hardcore of poopsockers will have new content to face for a significant fraction of the patch cycle. FFXIV is balanced around the hardcore raiders clearing in a week or two and then everyone else trickling in over the next few months depending on their skill/amount of time spent.