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bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
For some reason people really like EWG hooks for senkos. I suspect it's because having the hook point lay parallel to the worm keeps it from getting tore up when the fish bites them compared to if you use a round bend where the point has to rip through the plastic.

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joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.
I've got a 25 pack of superline gamakatsu 4/0's so I just use em for almost everything :D

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Very nice. I want to try a frog but I very rarely see anything bigger than like 2 lbs here. Most seems to be in the 1-2 lb range and some of those seem like it's a bit of an effort to eat a senko.

They make smaller frogs too, perfect for the 1-2 lbers; here's a pic I took for comparison. The chartreuse one is a Bully Wa 65, which is the standard size frog. The black one is a Bully Wa 55, and it's much smaller.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

joem83 posted:

I've got a 25 pack of superline gamakatsu 4/0's so I just use em for almost everything :D

Those seem large to me. I have 3/0 hooks and even those look unwieldy. I just typed out a huge post about bass hooks and presentations for senkos but it seemed kinda patronizing. If anyone's interested in my rambling I'll effortpost it but I don't want to 'tell' anyone how to fish. I've had my ups and downs but I've got it dialed in with a lot of trial and error (and research)

I'll try some of those little frogs though, right after I land my first carp.

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.
I mean, I'm not interested in being patronized but I love learning new stuff!

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Iirc Gary Y said they are best on a 3/0 EWG or a 3/0 Owner Twistlock. For 5" senkos anyway.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

bongwizzard posted:

Iirc Gary Y said they are best on a 3/0 EWG or a 3/0 Owner Twistlock. For 5" senkos anyway.

Yeah supposedly that's what he designed them for, but most fisherman I follow don't think EWG is necessary or even the best. Personally I couldn't stop either gut hooking or missing the fish entirely on EWG when I tried to hookset earlier, and I don't think guthooking is the primary concern of a man selling $1 plastic worms touted as landing the most fish.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
I took the Slayer out for a test drive and ended up with 4 trout



I also lost a pedal over the side of the yak which will probably mean $$$

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Yeah supposedly that's what he designed them for, but most fisherman I follow don't think EWG is necessary or even the best. Personally I couldn't stop either gut hooking or missing the fish entirely on EWG when I tried to hookset earlier, and I don't think guthooking is the primary concern of a man selling $1 plastic worms touted as landing the most fish.

In experience and reading, gut-hooking it almost always a function of not detecting a bite in time, which can also account for a lot of the missed fish. I am slowly coming back around to EWG hooks for stickbaits, especially the Gammie Skip-Gap ones. The Owner Twistloc hooks are kinda in between an EWG and a Round bend and are becoming my go to hooks for any plastic thicker then a worm.

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



Picnic Princess posted:

Here I am with a fish. I didn't catch it though.



I am incredibly envious :neckbeard:

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.
Went to the SD bay for a family function. Lost the tails of 3 swimbaits but no spotties! Next time :-D

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


joem83 posted:

Went to the SD bay for a family function. Lost the tails of 3 swimbaits but no spotties! Next time :-D

thread on a few inches of leader and put a second hook? Kinda like a drift bait rig?

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

the yeti posted:

I am incredibly envious :neckbeard:

If you ever find yourself in Los Cabos Mexico you can drop $200 and they'll take you to see them! You get to visit Hotel California in Todos Santos too. It's in La Paz, but I don't think they allow you to swim with them without being with a licensed guided group. One time I was there and there were multiple police boats observing everyone and making sure no one was harassing them.

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Nice yellowtail!

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.

LingcodKilla posted:

Nice yellowtail!

I don't know poo poo about poo poo, as this was my very first time fishing like this, but I think it's a yellowfin tuna! I also landed a nice little bluefin 30 minutes before that. Trip was free, was good times :D

sirr0bin
Aug 16, 2004
damn you! let the rabbits wear glasses!
Did some fishing on the Red River today, caught two master anglers!

41" channel cat on a 10lb test line





Wee itty bitty cat



Master angler white bass



And another decent sized cat



Had two others break my line 10' from the dock so that sucked, but all in all a productive 90 minutes of fishing. Caught my smallest and biggest cats ever!

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005


22nd St landing?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


sirr0bin posted:

Did some fishing on the Red River today, caught two master anglers!

41" channel cat on a 10lb test line





Wee itty bitty cat



Master angler white bass



And another decent sized cat



Had two others break my line 10' from the dock so that sucked, but all in all a productive 90 minutes of fishing. Caught my smallest and biggest cats ever!

We call them croakers on the west coast. Same genus as that guy. Also called drum and has another cousin called a red fish.

We used to call them worm burgers though.

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.

Frozen Pizza Party posted:

22nd St landing?

That was out off of San Clemente island, about 60-70 miles from San Diego. I got an invite from one of my IT vendors to go on an overnight trip for free, along with free food/drinks/beer/gear. It was actually pretty awesome, I had no idea what to expect as I'd never done anything like this before. They didn't weigh my yellowfin, but it was the biggest one caught that day and I'd guess 50+ lbs based on how it felt. All in all, the boat caught 20 bluefin (I landed a small one, too) and 2 yellowfin.

Also, in other posting a fish news: After 3 months of trying, I FINALLY landed a freakin bass on a frog. He was a wee guy, but I was pretttttttttttyyyyy pumped. Here's my old gramps holding it up:

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

joem83 posted:

That was out off of San Clemente island, about 60-70 miles from San Diego. I got an invite from one of my IT vendors to go on an overnight trip for free, along with free food/drinks/beer/gear. It was actually pretty awesome, I had no idea what to expect as I'd never done anything like this before. They didn't weigh my yellowfin, but it was the biggest one caught that day and I'd guess 50+ lbs based on how it felt. All in all, the boat caught 20 bluefin (I landed a small one, too) and 2 yellowfin.

Also, in other posting a fish news: After 3 months of trying, I FINALLY landed a freakin bass on a frog. He was a wee guy, but I was pretttttttttttyyyyy pumped. Here's my old gramps holding it up:



Did you eat the heart?

Congrats on a nice fish!

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.

Frozen Pizza Party posted:

Did you eat the heart?

Congrats on a nice fish!

They split up the meat between everyone into opaque bags; I tried and failed at finding the yellowfin chunks. Ohhh well.

I didn't eat the heart, but I did give myself a badge of honor on my fishing shirt!

SEGA Ass Fisting
Feb 15, 2012

KEEP IT TIGHT!
Took some vacation time and hit up the Delaware Canal for the last two days. Here's some drat fish!














Bummed it's supposed to rain here tomorrow. Not only did I take the week off, but I found a great spot today where the pickerel were going crazy on the topwater craw and I'm afraid the heavy rain will push them out.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
What exactly is the Delaware Canal?

SEGA Ass Fisting
Feb 15, 2012

KEEP IT TIGHT!
Basically it's a big canal that connects and runs parallel to the Delaware river. It was built sometime in the 1800's to get coal from northern PA to Philly.

Here's the start of the canal.
The Canal's wiki if you care to know it's history or something.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Rape Stink posted:

Basically it's a big canal that connects and runs parallel to the Delaware river. It was built sometime in the 1800's to get coal from northern PA to Philly.

Here's the start of the canal.
The Canal's wiki if you care to know it's history or something.

I was just really excited that there was a previously unknown to me canal system and the actual state of Delaware, which isn't too far from where I live. I love me some canal fishing.

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.
I also caught a fish recently. Somehow I foul hooked him with a frog. Beats me! I didn't even bend the hooks out on that frog.

That day was wild, the bass were feeding soooooo shallow. Literally right at the shoreline, splashing around like carp or something. Big boys, too.

gamera009
Apr 7, 2005

Spent a morning at Eldo Canyon.





A ton of small fry, but the bigger ones were sitting at the bottom of all the plunge pools having nothing to do with any double drop nymphs. Not even the usual pheasant tail and psycho prince movers made them budge. :(

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

gamera009 posted:

Spent a morning at Eldo Canyon.





A ton of small fry, but the bigger ones were sitting at the bottom of all the plunge pools having nothing to do with any double drop nymphs. Not even the usual pheasant tail and psycho prince movers made them budge. :(

My man, don't make me get into fly fishing, I can barely afford spinning.

gamera009
Apr 7, 2005

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

My man, don't make me get into fly fishing, I can barely afford spinning.

Spinning is great, but there's something zen about being in the water of a clear stream, wading quietly and taking it all in. And by that I also mean hauling in trout.











joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.
Them's some pretty fish posts, everybody!

SEGA Ass Fisting
Feb 15, 2012

KEEP IT TIGHT!

bongwizzard posted:

I was just really excited that there was a previously unknown to me canal system and the actual state of Delaware, which isn't too far from where I live. I love me some canal fishing.

It's a kick rear end canal. It still has all it's original hardware, so there's all kinds of old rear end hand cranks and poo poo to work the locks. It's considered a historic landmark so the towpath is well maintained, and virtually all the water is within casting range of the path. I've been fishing it for years and I've probably only seen like 10% of it.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Rape Stink posted:

It's a kick rear end canal. It still has all it's original hardware, so there's all kinds of old rear end hand cranks and poo poo to work the locks. It's considered a historic landmark so the towpath is well maintained, and virtually all the water is within casting range of the path. I've been fishing it for years and I've probably only seen like 10% of it.

That sounds amazing, I fish the C&O canal which runs parallel to the Potomac River, as often as I can. It's a great largemouth bass habitat and the towpath is like strolling along a country road.




We are officially in the fall "I'll bite anything as long as it's moving fast enough" season. I've had to put the drop shot rod aside and start throwing a lipless crank. I got eight of them around the size on Saturday, ripping the lipless through submerged grass.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

bongwizzard posted:

That sounds amazing, I fish the C&O canal which runs parallel to the Potomac River, as often as I can. It's a great largemouth bass habitat and the towpath is like strolling along a country road.




We are officially in the fall "I'll bite anything as long as it's moving fast enough" season. I've had to put the drop shot rod aside and start throwing a lipless crank. I got eight of them around the size on Saturday, ripping the lipless through submerged grass.

drat. There were a million fish at sunset last night and they only went after my senkos twice in an hour. Are the littler guys out?

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Generally, the summer to fall transition is when the bass really start feeding up for winter, so fast moving lures that let you cover more water start working really really well.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

bongwizzard posted:

Generally, the summer to fall transition is when the bass really start feeding up for winter, so fast moving lures that let you cover more water start working really really well.

Awesome. Any chatter baits you can Amazon link me to that'll work?

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Awesome. Any chatter baits you can Amazon link me to that'll work?

I get mine from a small vendor called Siebert Outdoors. I've started using him for all my jigs and chatterbait needs, his poo poo is great and is usually a dollar so less then the major brands.

For something you can find on Amazon, just buy the most expensive Z man ones you can stand to buy. The cheaper ones little junky however.

In general, Amazon has terrible prices on fishing poo poo unless you get lucky and find something in the robots are selling for pennies on the dollar. For single purchases I usually use eBay if I can find a vendor with a reasonable price shipped, otherwise I just wait till I need 50 bucks worth of stuff and buy from tackle warehouse.

Chatterbaits are kind of weird, I never had a lot of luck with them until I switch to a heavy rod with more of a medium fast rather than fast action. They really do have a ton of resistance moving through the water and it was hard to fish them for more than an hour or so at a time when I tried using a medium heavy/ fast rod.

I've also never really found ones lighter than 3/8 of an ounce to work particularly well. The Siebert 1/4oz ones work OK but his 3/8oz ones are noticeably better.

bongwizzard fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Sep 13, 2017

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Post pics of chatterbaits.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

I caught a lovely little smallmouth on a topwater cork popper this morning, and, distressingly, I injured it bringing it in. Poor little thing was only maybe 9 inches, still clearly a juvenile, and I was an idiot without a net to land it properly, and I dropped it.

I don't mind keeping and eating fish, but I hate hurting one accidentally. I know this is dumb.

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bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

LingcodKilla posted:

Post pics of chatterbaits.



The generic term is "bladed jig". It is less of a jig and more of a spinnerbait/squarebill crank hybrid and and can take the place of both. Z-Man invented them and holds the patent, but there are a ton of other versions out there, many better than the original.

I, being old and out of touch, did not know about the porn site of almost the same name until last winter when I first got interested in the lure. That was a real interesting typo.

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